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[justintyme]

[Michelle89]

[WNBA 09]

[Randy]

Stewart or Jones? I'd rather have a referee on my side.

[myrtle]

[TotalCardinalMove]

[Richyyy]

[root_thing]

I find it very hard to debate from a physical talent or skill perspective. Stewart fans can say she's a better scorer, but Jones fans can respond that Jonquel is the better rebounder. They can both score inside outside and both handle the ball well for bigs. If you throw in potential development as a variable, then this argument can go on forever.

One thing we can definitely say about Stewart, that is unproven about Jones, is that Breanna has withstood the pressure of attention and expectations with relatively little problem. She was the number 1 recruit out of high school and the unquestioned number 1 pick in the WNBA draft. Stewart has met all expectations and more. She even withstood the brouhaha surrounding her selection to the Olympic team over Parker. Stewie is unflappable. She lived through Geno's browbeating and embraced it to improve as a player. She has survived being the focal point of opponents' defensive game plans year after year. And note that Stewart always seemed to have her best games at tournament time when the lights were brightest. So, I'm pretty sold on Breanna's mental and emotional makeup. As long as she's healthy, Stewart will get the most out of her talent. Not saying Jonquel won't be solid too, but she hasn't been tested like Stewie. And we do have that small blip of her transferring from Clemson to GW. Not necessarily meaningful, but there's at least a question about why she had to leave. Bad decision to begin with? Couldn't adjust to someone or something? Again, maybe not important but it's there.

Stewart just seems impervious to pressure, expectations or outside distractions. Therefore, I see her as a safer bet.

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[scrappy]

alright u stewie fans. while both have their merits of what and how. but if you look at the game last night that both of them were in the game, on the floor. who altered and dictated the game more?

JONQUEL JONES!!!

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[Silky Johnson]

That makes about as much sense as deciding who ought to be ROY, based on who did better head-to-head between Sykes and Gray. I mean, the answer to both questions might end up being the same, anyway, but that's kind of a shitty metric to hang the decision on. You might as well decide between Stewart and Jones based on who put up better numbers against the Fever.

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[Randy]

I don't care much for which player is better debates, but it occurred to me it might be interesting to look at Advanced Stats from BBRef;

Rk Player G MP PER TS% eFG% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS WS/48
1 Breanna Stewart 25 831 24.3 .598 .542 .303 .425 6.5 24.0 15.9 14.6 1.6 3.9 13.0 28.0 112 103 2.6 1.2 3.8 .219

1 Jonquel Jones 25 715 27.9 .637 .573 .158 .450 15.6 31.6 23.5 7.3 1.6 3.7 11.1 21.3 129 98 3.8 1.6 5.4 .362

On the WNBA advanced stats its not very close.

Stewart is 8th (not counting Boyd) while Jones is 4 in PIE. Fowles, Griner, Nneka are best.

Jones seems to get extra credit for being on a good team (look at OR and DR) which is sort of the point I guess.

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[Silky Johnson]

[Richyyy]

[Michelle89]

[WNBA 09]

[Michelle89]

[WNBA 09]

[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

One thing to consider in Jones vs. Stewart is that Jones' game is more dependent on her raw athleticism, which to me would mean that wear and tear could have greater potential effect on Jones than Stewart. Not to say Stewart isn't athletic, because of course she is. But Jones' offense is by large majority putbacks and open 3s. She's not much of a creator of her own offense. OTOH there's a second thing to consider. That same principle might show higher untapped potential in Jones. She can certainly handle the open court. So what if she develops a high capacity to create her own offense, given that she has the capability? Even as somewhat of a raw player she's dominant in certain areas of the game. What happens when she gains polish?

It's an interesting comparison. Honestly I can't say right now which I'd rather have with certainty. Given their games right this second, I'd take Stewart because I value perimeter versatility and playmaking in a player. Especially when combined with length, rim protection potential, and rebounding. But Jones' upside is also hard to ignore.

Also, if you look at CT, they have a lot of depth on offense, and they have so many creators that it really opens weak-side offensive rebounding opportunities for Jones. Especially when either Thomas forces defenses to scramble through penetrations. If you put Jones on Seattle given the difference in their style of play, you might have a situation where her rebounds per game would be about 1-2 per game lower. So, the personnel each player has plays a role too.

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[tfan]

I know Breanna Stewart was #1 out of high school. Looked for Jones rating and found she was #17 by ESPN/Hoopgurlz, and #4 at her position. And, they list her at 6'2" (Stewart is listed at 6'3" by them versus the 6'4" she is currently listed at).

From the comments on her ESPN page, Jones improved a lot in high school.

[Michelle89]

[WNBA 09]

[pilight]

Jones is a legit Cruiserweight while Stewart is a puffed up Super Middleweight. It would be no contest.

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