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PostPosted: 07/29/17 3:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Who is this dreadful color female and what is her hideous inflection style called? Jesus.



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PostPosted: 07/29/17 3:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hopefully Hebard is ready to battle again tomorrow. Russia took Canada out of the game early and just rolled. Assuming we start with the same plan and put Hebard on Vadeeva and let Alarie try to chase Musina around, I hope they bring their boxing gloves, hockey sticks, and whatever else they will need in the post. The guards will need to attack their defense and not just settle for jumpers.

The final should be on ESPN3 at 3pm ET, hopefully working from the start.

Here are the other games:
3rd: Japan vs Canada
5th: France vs Australia
7th: Spain vs China
9th: Hungary vs Latvia
11th: Italy vs Mexico
13th: Puerto Rico vs Mali
15th: South Korea vs Egypt
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PostPosted: 07/29/17 5:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

US beats Japan in the semis, 73-66, in a strangely competitive game. The game was tied in the mid-2Q when my streaming started, then the US went up over 20 points, and then Japan made an impressive comeback in the 4Q.

Ruthy Hebard had a monster game with 24 points, 14 rebounds and a 37 efficiency. Chennedy Carter had another big scoring game with 19 points along with seven rebounds. Ty Harris again scored and distributed well with 10 points and six assists.

The US will go against Russia's big bigs in the final.

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PostPosted: 07/30/17 11:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

USA vs. Russia Final: today at 3 pm EDT.

Should be on ESPN3 and may be here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z3MBLvmtyI

Russia has never beaten the USA in U19, but came within eight points in 2015.

Russia is leading the USA in the tournament in 3FG%, FT%, RPG, APG and BPG. USA is leading in 2FG%, SPG, TOPG, FBPPG, and bench PPG.

Russia's 6-4 Maria Madeeva is the second leading scorer in the tourney, the leading rebounder, the (tied) leader in double doubles, and the leader in EFFPG. Their 6-4 Raisa Musina is the second leading rebounder and third in EFFPG. Their 5-11 Daria Kurilchuk is third in 3FG%.
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PostPosted: 07/30/17 2:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

US leads 22-19 after 1. US is scoring with their backcourt while Russia is pounding it inside. Dangerfield with 10 points on 4-6 shooting.


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 2:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

US up 42-36 H. Several lead changes in the 2nd. A very entertaining game w/ lots of good basketball.

US guards very impressive.



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 2:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Russia significantly outplayed the USA with team offense in the first half: 50% to 44% FG%, 27 rebounds to 14, 10 assists to 5, and 24 points in the keyway to 18.

Except:

Russia committed 11 TO's to the USA's one, so the USA got 41 shots on goal to Russia's 32.

The USA is ahead because of superior ball-stealing defense, individual shot creation athletic moves, and a way-over-tourney-mean shooting performance so far by Crystal Dangerfield.
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PostPosted: 07/30/17 2:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Very entertaining 1st half. Both teams playing well. Russia seems to score at will down low while nailing some 3's while the US is hitting from outside and evening Russia's advantage inside with 8 steals. US shooting 43% & Russia 50%. US with 9 more shot attempts, mostly due to steals.

42-36 at the half as the US ends the half on a small run.

Vadeeva with 8 points and 11 rebounds but commits a dumb foul (#3) with a second left in the half.

Dangerfield/Carter combine for 25 points in the half on 10-16 shooting.

It's Russia's size & strength vs US quickness. Russian leads in rebounding 27-14 while the US has 8 steals and 1 turnover to Russia's 0 steals and 11 rebounds.


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Teamwork vs. individual athleticism. Which will last longer? Neither team playing good defense, except for the USA's steals.
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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

62-60 Russia at the 3Q.

Megan Walker's only played 3+ minutes.
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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Funky Cold Madeeva 22/14 thru 3. Russia leads 62-60. My girl Joyner is living a nightmare.



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Holmes could make an unopposed layup Dangerfield would have 4 or 5 more assists.

Carter is a phenomenal shooter but Musina is using her on the other end.


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Carter has been insane last 2 days!

Usa going down.....omg on the Dangerfield steal, resteal, missed layup and missed follow



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This is unbelievable.
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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This game has been orders of magnitude more entertaining than any WNBA game I watched this season.


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Russia wins 86-82. A well deserved win. Teamwork beat great individual play.

Gary Blair must be smiling.


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

linkster wrote:
US leads 22-19 after 1. US is scoring with their backcourt while Russia is pounding it inside. Dangerfield with 10 points on 4-6 shooting.



Wow, so that means she went 2 for 14 the rest of the way? Why is she shooting so much, if she's struggling to make shots? She should've distributed the ball more......


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What a game! Carter should eat up the SEC.



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Terrific game, featuring two very different teams. Teamwork wins, barely.

Huge shots and huge misses by the USA's athletes.

Russia outshot USA 52%-40%, outrebounded 48-37, out-assisted 25-13, and out-pointed in the keyway 40-34.

Best game I've seen since UConn-MissST, and the contrast in styles made it even more interesting.

Got to give MVP to Musina, imo, even though Carter played supernaturally.
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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Another solid outing for Tyasha Harris, who scored 8 pts on 4 for 8 shooting, plus 9 assists and 3 steals. She was easily the team's best PG in this tournament: led the team in asst. per gm and steals per gm, and was the better perimeter shooter. I'm surprised she wasn't on the floor at the end of the game then....


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 3:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I was thinking game MVP, but of course the award is tourney MVP. Vadeeva rightly got it.

Other all tournament team was Musina, Carter, Harris and the girl from Canada (?).


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 4:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Conway Gamecock wrote:
Another solid outing for Tyasha Harris, who scored 8 pts on 4 for 8 shooting, plus 9 assists and 3 steals. She was easily the team's best PG in this tournament: led the team in asst. per gm and steals per gm, and was the better perimeter shooter. I'm surprised she wasn't on the floor at the end of the game then....


Agree, not sure why either Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 4:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Conway Gamecock wrote:
Another solid outing for Tyasha Harris, who scored 8 pts on 4 for 8 shooting, plus 9 assists and 3 steals. She was easily the team's best PG in this tournament: led the team in asst. per gm and steals per gm, and was the better perimeter shooter. I'm surprised she wasn't on the floor at the end of the game then....


Harris was excellent all tourney.

After a great first quarter, Dangerfield's volume shooting for the final game (6-20) regressed exactly to her tournament mean, 30%.

For the tournament, Harris was superior to Dangerfield in:

-- APG: 5.7 to 3.7
-- ATO: 5.7 to 2.4
-- steals: 14-10
-- EffPG: 13.3 to 6.6
-- 2FG%: 45.5% to 30.4%
-- 3FG%: 37.5% to 26.9%
-- FT%: 81.8% to 61.5%

Dangerfield averaged 9.0 PPG vs. Harris's 8.0 PPG (on 82 shots vs. 46) and had two more rebounds for the tournament.

USA Stats: http://www.fiba.com/world/u19women/2017/USA#tab=overview,average_statistics
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PostPosted: 07/30/17 5:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:
62-60 Russia at the 3Q.

Megan Walker's only played 3+ minutes.


Another Kia Nurse moment for Glenn. I am sure Geno is going to want to take
back her scholarship after this. Very Happy Very Happy



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PostPosted: 07/30/17 6:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Raisa Musina was the best in the final game. The NT head coach gave her little to play at the European Championship, so again the Russian team did not qualify for the World Cup.


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PostPosted: 07/30/17 10:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What do people think about the decision to throw the wings against Musina instead of using Alarie to guard her? On a number of possessions it did seem to work and throw her off her game, clogging up the paint a bit as she tried to post up the smaller defenders. On the other hand, she was able to just bowl over her defenders a few times and shoot over them other times.

Hebard had such a big advantage inside against Japan, but it was a completely different story against all of the size that Russia had.
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PostPosted: 07/31/17 11:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I agree the game was quite entertaining, but I'm not drinking the announcers Kool-Aid that this was one of the best games ever played.

"Entertaining" and "great" have overlapping Venn diagrams but they are not quite the same. Maybe I'm overreacting to blown layups but it's hard to label any game is great in which there are multiple blown layups.

Musina was great. I agree with the observation that she you had the best game of anyone on the floor but the MVP was tourney MVP not game MVP.


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 1:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:
Conway Gamecock wrote:
Another solid outing for Tyasha Harris, who scored 8 pts on 4 for 8 shooting, plus 9 assists and 3 steals. She was easily the team's best PG in this tournament: led the team in asst. per gm and steals per gm, and was the better perimeter shooter. I'm surprised she wasn't on the floor at the end of the game then....


Harris was excellent all tourney.

After a great first quarter, Dangerfield's volume shooting for the final game (6-20) regressed exactly to her tournament mean, 30%.

For the tournament, Harris was superior to Dangerfield in:

-- APG: 5.7 to 3.7
-- ATO: 5.7 to 2.4
-- steals: 14-10
-- EffPG: 13.3 to 6.6
-- 2FG%: 45.5% to 30.4%
-- 3FG%: 37.5% to 26.9%
-- FT%: 81.8% to 61.5%

Dangerfield averaged 9.0 PPG vs. Harris's 8.0 PPG (on 82 shots vs. 46) and had two more rebounds for the tournament.

USA Stats: http://www.fiba.com/world/u19women/2017/USA#tab=overview,average_statistics


I was actually surprised at how much Dangerfield was shooting the ball... she seemed to be aggressively hunting her shot which is so different than her style of play at UConn... maybe she was trying to get it all out before the season begins. Lol

Harris, on the other hand, was very in character.. she's a passer and playmaker.. but she will burn if you think she can't shoot.


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PostPosted: 07/31/17 4:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Dangerfield , Who gave you the greenlight to shoot til the wheels came off ?



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PostPosted: 08/01/17 3:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Harris had a very good tournament. We saw some of the issues with Dangerfield that she had last year with over dribbling, she forced shots in high school also. It will be interesting to see how she responds to Shea and Geno this year as that isn't Uconn basketball.


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From now on, I'm calling her Crystal Field of Danger....


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