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sigur3
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Posted: 07/11/17 12:07 pm ::: |
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bcdawg04 wrote: |
Might Mo Jeff get in over McBride? |
That would be the right call
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lynxmania
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Posted: 07/11/17 12:10 pm ::: |
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Poor Tiff Mitchell. Could have been her first All-Star, but with the Shoni Schimmel Rule in effect, finishes 7th in the backcourt.
Griner's lack of fan popularity/support ultimately cost her a starting spot. While Parker's fan support gave her the nod over Nneka.
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lynxmania
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Posted: 07/11/17 12:20 pm ::: |
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I was going to see how the voting numbers had changed for each starter from the last All-Star game, but since we didn't get final fan voting numbers for all of them, I'll just do the ones we do have.
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Player 2015 Total 2017 Total Difference
Maya Moore 13,706 => 32,866 +19,160
Elena Delle Donne 18,034 => 31,414 +13,380
Candace Parker N/A* => 29,133 +29,133*
Sylvia Fowles N/A* => 24,904 +24,904*
Sue Bird 8,088 => 24,841 +16,753
Nneka Ogwumike 4,880 => 21,975 +17,095 |
*Parker and Fowles didn't play during the first half of the 2015 season.
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Randy
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Posted: 07/11/17 12:26 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Bench picks
West
Diggins
Gray
Griner
Loyd
Ogwumike
Stewart
East
Clarendon
Dupree
Hill
Prince
Quigley
A Thomas |
Those look good to me. Are those your picks or did they announce those as well?
They should have a special guest star appearance by Shoni though.
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lynxmania
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Posted: 07/11/17 12:28 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Bench picks
West
Diggins
Gray
Griner
Loyd
Ogwumike
Stewart
East
Clarendon
Dupree
Hill
Prince
Quigley
A Thomas |
Those look good to me. Are those your picks or did they announce those as well?
They should have a special guest star appearance by Shoni though. |
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The All-Star reserves, who will be selected by the WNBA’s 12 head coaches, will be announced on Tuesday, July 18 during ESPN2’s telecast of the Storm and the Chicago Sky (9 p.m. ET). |
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 07/11/17 12:39 pm ::: |
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lynxmania wrote: |
I was going to see how the voting numbers had changed for each starter from the last All-Star game, but since we didn't get final fan voting numbers for all of them, I'll just do the ones we do have.
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Player 2015 Total 2017 Total Difference
Maya Moore 13,706 => 32,866 +19,160
Elena Delle Donne 18,034 => 31,414 +13,380
Candace Parker N/A* => 29,133 +29,133*
Sylvia Fowles N/A* => 24,904 +24,904*
Sue Bird 8,088 => 24,841 +16,753
Nneka Ogwumike 4,880 => 21,975 +17,095 |
*Parker and Fowles didn't play during the first half of the 2015 season. |
Hmm seems interest is at least up with those #'s more than doubling in the voting section.
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bballgrl
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Posted: 07/11/17 3:37 pm ::: |
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lynxmania wrote: |
Poor Tiff Mitchell. Could have been her first All-Star, but with the Shoni Schimmel Rule in effect, finishes 7th in the backcourt.
Griner's lack of fan popularity/support ultimately cost her a starting spot. While Parker's fan support gave her the nod over Nneka. |
Yep, guess since Parker didn't get on the Olympic team her fans made sure she was a starter on the All Star game. BG is the leagues highest scorer and she is not a starter? Popularity votes, not based on performance. DT should be a starter as should BG! Parker should not be. Nor should Moore or EDD be starters cause they haven't played well thus far this season. The coach of the Sun should be coach for the East over Bill L.
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toad455
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Posted: 07/11/17 4:04 pm ::: |
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I really wanted Griner & Fowles starting with Ogwumike at SF.
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tfan
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Posted: 07/11/17 6:55 pm ::: |
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lynxmania wrote: |
Poor Tiff Mitchell. Could have been her first All-Star, but with the Shoni Schimmel Rule in effect, finishes 7th in the backcourt.
Griner's lack of fan popularity/support ultimately cost her a starting spot. While Parker's fan support gave her the nod over Nneka. |
Why is Tiffany Mitchell so popular with the fans? She has not yet become a full-time starter and I don't remember her being a household name out of college. She was drafted #9 in 2016.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 07/11/17 7:17 pm ::: |
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Don't know why anyone thinks Allisha Gray should be anywhere near the All-Star game. She's having a decent year for a rookie, especially compared to the rest of this dismal class, but a pretty damn average year up against everyone else. 40% from the field, awful from three, the occasional assist, and her part in the second-worst defense in the League.
The only Wing with any place in the All-Star game is Diggins. |
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Posted: 07/11/17 7:31 pm ::: |
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Tiffany Hayes man, Tiffany Hayes. #1 across the board. Sweet.
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Randy
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Posted: 07/11/17 8:05 pm ::: |
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Tip is making that 2nd round pick back in 2012 look pretty foolish now. 7 of the 13 players picked ahead of her are out of the WNBA now. I think that only Nneka and Glory Johnson have been All Stars. Good for her. She played in Angel's shadow all this time and finally has her breakout season.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 07/11/17 8:58 pm ::: |
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sigur3 wrote: |
bcdawg04 wrote: |
Might Mo Jeff get in over McBride? |
That would be the right call |
In what bizarro universe?
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Richyyy
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Posted: 07/11/17 10:07 pm ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
sigur3 wrote: |
bcdawg04 wrote: |
Might Mo Jeff get in over McBride? |
That would be the right call |
In what bizarro universe? |
The one where McBride continues to pile up counting stats via the method of 'taking a crapload of shots'? Jefferson has had the injury issues and played a few fewer games, but she's not just more efficient than McBride, she's wildly more efficient than McBride. Pretty much every advanced stat is in Jefferson's favour as well, if you like those sorts of things.
Although personally, I don't think either should make it in a West that has enough good options not to have the unspoken 'token player from every team however shit they are' rule implemented. |
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pilight
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Posted: 07/11/17 10:18 pm ::: |
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If you're a believer in net +/- then the starters should be...
West
Sue Bird
Moriah Jefferson
Sylvia Fowles
Crystal Langhorne
Theresa Plaisance
East
Tiffany Mitchell
Shavonte Zellous
Tina Charles
Elena Delle Donne
Stefanie Dolson
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J-Spoon
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Posted: 07/11/17 11:25 pm ::: |
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my reserve picks
east
g-Clarendon
g-Pondexter
g-Rodgers
f-A. Thomas
f-Dupree
c-Dolson
west
g-Diggins
g-Loyd
g-C. Gray
f-Stewart
f-N. Ogwumike
c-Griner
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 07/12/17 9:11 am ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
ArtBest23 wrote: |
sigur3 wrote: |
bcdawg04 wrote: |
Might Mo Jeff get in over McBride? |
That would be the right call |
In what bizarro universe? |
The one where McBride continues to pile up counting stats via the method of 'taking a crapload of shots'? Jefferson has had the injury issues and played a few fewer games, but she's not just more efficient than McBride, she's wildly more efficient than McBride. Pretty much every advanced stat is in Jefferson's favour as well, if you like those sorts of things.
Although personally, I don't think either should make it in a West that has enough good options not to have the unspoken 'token player from every team however shit they are' rule implemented. |
McBride takes a lot of shots because the coach wanrs her to bevause if she didn't the team would barely score at all. So you're thinking the guard who got benched in favor of a mediocre underperforming rookie should be an all star?
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Richyyy
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Posted: 07/12/17 10:06 am ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
Richyyy wrote: |
ArtBest23 wrote: |
sigur3 wrote: |
bcdawg04 wrote: |
Might Mo Jeff get in over McBride? |
That would be the right call |
In what bizarro universe? |
The one where McBride continues to pile up counting stats via the method of 'taking a crapload of shots'? Jefferson has had the injury issues and played a few fewer games, but she's not just more efficient than McBride, she's wildly more efficient than McBride. Pretty much every advanced stat is in Jefferson's favour as well, if you like those sorts of things.
Although personally, I don't think either should make it in a West that has enough good options not to have the unspoken 'token player from every team however shit they are' rule implemented. |
McBride takes a lot of shots because the coach wanrs her to bevause if she didn't the team would barely score at all. So you're thinking the guard who got benched in favor of a mediocre underperforming rookie should be an all star? |
Jefferson being benched for a clearly inferior player is evidence of what, exactly? Other than the general dysfunction in San Antonio, and the attempt to get their draft pick to show something?
And yes, McBride takes lots of shots partly because there aren't many other options, and because Johnson's offense is a trainwreck. That doesn't mean she's doing it well. If the coach's offensive scheme involves handing the ball to the opposition on every possession, the point guard isn't an all-star because of her outstanding 9000-1 turnover-to-assist ratio. |
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Libra_Girl
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Posted: 07/12/17 11:05 am ::: |
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bballgrl wrote: |
lynxmania wrote: |
Poor Tiff Mitchell. Could have been her first All-Star, but with the Shoni Schimmel Rule in effect, finishes 7th in the backcourt.
Griner's lack of fan popularity/support ultimately cost her a starting spot. While Parker's fan support gave her the nod over Nneka. |
Yep, guess since Parker didn't get on the Olympic team her fans made sure she was a starter on the All Star game. BG is the leagues highest scorer and she is not a starter? Popularity votes, not based on performance. DT should be a starter as should BG! Parker should not be. Nor should Moore or EDD be starters cause they haven't played well thus far this season. The coach of the Sun should be coach for the East over Bill L. |
Parker is starting at pf which means Fowles is starting at center for the west team. As good as BG has been playing she hasn't be better than Fowles. CP has always been voted as a starter in the AllStars gm so saying that her fans made sure to vote for her because of the Olympics snub is foolish. Before the two bad performances Parker has been averaging a double double in LA 8 straight wins.
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#Occasionalwnbafan
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Posted: 07/12/17 11:36 am ::: |
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I'm still surprised Bird is starting over Diggins-smith |
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Richyyy
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Posted: 07/12/17 12:16 pm ::: |
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Libra_Girl wrote: |
bballgrl wrote: |
lynxmania wrote: |
Poor Tiff Mitchell. Could have been her first All-Star, but with the Shoni Schimmel Rule in effect, finishes 7th in the backcourt.
Griner's lack of fan popularity/support ultimately cost her a starting spot. While Parker's fan support gave her the nod over Nneka. |
Yep, guess since Parker didn't get on the Olympic team her fans made sure she was a starter on the All Star game. BG is the leagues highest scorer and she is not a starter? Popularity votes, not based on performance. DT should be a starter as should BG! Parker should not be. Nor should Moore or EDD be starters cause they haven't played well thus far this season. The coach of the Sun should be coach for the East over Bill L. |
Parker is starting at pf which means Fowles is starting at center for the west team. As good as BG has been playing she hasn't be better than Fowles. CP has always been voted as a starter in the AllStars gm so saying that her fans made sure to vote for her because of the Olympics snub is foolish. Before the two bad performances Parker has been averaging a double double in LA 8 straight wins. |
It's three 'frontcourt' players, so Fowles and Griner could've been in the starting lineup together. |
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