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 Posted: 06/21/17 7:37 pm ::: Katie Smith |
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Congrats to Turasi re WNBA, but last I looked, Katie is the all time women's professional basketball scorer with 7,885. If my research is correct.
Expect Turasi to exceed that total, but let's get due respect to Katie's accomplishments.
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| Posted: 06/21/17 7:55 pm ::: Re: Katie Smith |
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| LFO wrote: |
Congrats to Turasi re WNBA, but last I looked, Katie is the all time women's professional basketball scorer with 7,885. If my research is correct.
Expect Turasi to exceed that total, but let's get due respect to Katie's accomplishments. |
Always much respect for Katie. Her play in Minnesota is what brought me to love the WNBA.
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| Posted: 06/21/17 8:15 pm ::: Re: Katie Smith |
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| LFO wrote: |
Congrats to Turasi re WNBA, but last I looked, Katie is the all time women's professional basketball scorer with 7,885. If my research is correct.
Expect Turasi to exceed that total, but let's get due respect to Katie's accomplishments. |
Sorry, the ABL has nothing to do with the WNBA. At least spell Taurasi's name right.
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| Posted: 06/21/17 8:39 pm ::: |
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The very unfortunate misspelling aside--and with only huge respect for Diana Taurasi--I believe that LFO raises an interesting issue. It is characteristic of sports leagues to focus entirely on achievements within their leagues. Nothing new about that. But we as sports fans don't have to be restricted in that way.
I view Diana Taurasi as the greatest women's basketball player ever. But Katie Smith's points in professional basketball matter to me, whether scored inside or outside the WNBA. Indeed, I'd like to see a statistic on who has scored the most career points in women's basketball anywhere in the world. Shouldn't baskets count if scored in Russia or other countries?
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| Posted: 06/21/17 9:25 pm ::: |
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| Shouldn't baskets count if scored in Russia or other countries? |
It woud be interesting to see, for sure. But ultimately it would be fairly meaningless. Statistics like "most points scored" are most interesting/useful when they compare apples to apples. While some leagues like the Russian ones have strong competition, soneone who scored a ton of points against vastly inferior competition could skew those numbers from any sort of meaning. If some advanced statistician wanred to figure out a way to balance the leagues, that could be interesting (for instance a point in the WNBA is worth .9 in Russia, .6 in China, .4 in Korea, or whatever).
With that all said, the ABL was close enough in strength of competition to the WNBA at the time for it to be meaningful in these sorts of discussions.
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| Posted: 06/21/17 9:32 pm ::: |
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| Indeed, I'd like to see a statistic on who has scored the most career points in women's basketball anywhere in the world. Shouldn't baskets count if scored in Russia or other countries? |
Yes.
Most points scored in the WNBA is one legitimate statistic. However, another legitimate and more encompassing statistic is who has scored the most points in her entire professional career. Combining WNBA and ABL, the U.S.A. leagues, the answer so far is Katie Smith.
I suspect that if it were possible to count all points scored in all professional leagues around the world, the winner as of now would likely be Taurasi. She's played in foreign leagues since about 2004 and has been near the top in scoring in probably every league she's played in. What other players have been prolific scorers in so many leagues for so many years as Taurasi? |
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| Posted: 06/21/17 9:45 pm ::: |
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| Bob Lamm wrote: |
| Indeed, I'd like to see a statistic on who has scored the most career points in women's basketball anywhere in the world. Shouldn't baskets count if scored in Russia or other countries? |
Yes.
Most points scored in the WNBA is one legitimate statistic. However, another legitimate and more encompassing statistic is who has scored the most points in her entire professional career. Combining WNBA and ABL, the U.S.A. leagues, the answer so far is Katie Smith.
I suspect that if it were possible to count all points scored in all professional leagues around the world, the winner as of now would likely be Taurasi. She's played in foreign leagues since about 2004 and has been near the top in scoring in probably every league she's played in. What other players have been prolific scorers in so many leagues for so many years as Taurasi? |
For me, every one of these statistics has meaning. That Diana Taurasi has scored the most career points in the WNBA. That Katie Smith has scored the most career points in U.S. professional leagues. And that Taurasi (I'm guessing) has scored the most career points in professional leagues anywhere. Speaking only for myself, it's not worth weighing which statistic is more valuable than the others. They're all of interest.
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| Posted: 06/21/17 10:06 pm ::: |
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| What other players have been prolific scorers in so many leagues for so many years as Taurasi? |
Cynthia Cooper led the Spanish league in scoring once and the Italian league in scoring eight times. Janeth Arcain won eight MVP awards in the Brazilian league. Tina Thompson probably scored enough in the NWBL to have more US points than Katie Smith, but not all the NWBL stats are available.
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| Posted: 06/22/17 6:23 am ::: |
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| Given that Katie Smith is my favorite player, you know I want her to get more recognition. |
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| Posted: 06/22/17 11:03 am ::: |
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Katie Smith is one of the all-time greats of the game. In her prime, she could defend all five positions due to her strength and physicality. Her core was unbelievable.
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| Posted: 06/22/17 4:40 pm ::: |
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| Laimbeer is such a tool. I'm no Taurasi fan, but at least I can spell the name of one of the premier players in league history's name correctly.
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| Posted: 06/22/17 8:16 pm ::: |
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I admit, I wasn't sure what Natalie Williams's son had to do with the conversation.
We need one of our historians to pull together WBL, ABL, WNBA, NWBL, and various other American pro leagues to give us a definitive answer, for once and for all.
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| Posted: 06/22/17 9:42 pm ::: |
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| Evil Bill has never been a big Taurasi fan. You may recall in 2004 he said he would have drafted Chandi Jones ahead of her.
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| Posted: 06/22/17 9:48 pm ::: |
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A. Spelling a person's name correctly is not grammar or even spelling. It's getting a person's name right; this is borderline disrespectful.
B. My 2 statements can be taken as separate statements. He is a tool AND he also doesn't know how to spell one of the league's star's name correctly.
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Not spelling a person's name correctly on an online board is a silly thing to get upset over. Names are tricky to spell and people mess them up all the time. If I had a dollar for every time someone called Coach Reeve "Coach Reeves" I could probably retire. And I am sure LFO's name has been murdered more than a few times on these very boards.
For someone who gets upset every time they feel attacked on these boards, you sure do seem to enjoy tossing out insults at other posters. Nothing that LFO wrote here is worthy of him being called a "tool". All he did is recognize a player who is worthy of respect and accolades. Why was insulting someone necessary in response to such a positive post?
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| Posted: 06/22/17 10:16 pm ::: |
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| Jet Jaguar wrote: |
A. Spelling a person's name correctly is not grammar or even spelling. It's getting a person's name right; this is borderline disrespectful.
B. My 2 statements can be taken as separate statements. He is a tool AND he also doesn't know how to spell one of the league's star's name correctly.
So, no. Not well said. |
Not spelling a person's name correctly on an online board is a silly thing to get upset over. Names are tricky to spell and people mess them up all the time. If I had a dollar for every time someone called Coach Reeve "Coach Reeves" I could probably retire. And I am sure LFO's name has been murdered more than a few times on these very boards.
For someone who gets upset every time they feel attacked on these boards, you sure do seem to enjoy tossing out insults at other posters. Nothing that LFO wrote here is worthy of him being called a "tool". All he did is recognize a player who is worthy of respect and accolades. Why was insulting someone necessary in response to such a positive post? |
Dear justintyme--I support your statements and your question. I believe it's not worthwhile to continue. There are people who desperately want attention. They get off on negative attention simply because it's attention.
It's better that the rest of us talk to each other about issues that are genuinely interesting and important.--Bob
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| Posted: 06/23/17 1:19 am ::: |
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| justintyme wrote: |
| Jet Jaguar wrote: |
A. Spelling a person's name correctly is not grammar or even spelling. It's getting a person's name right; this is borderline disrespectful.
B. My 2 statements can be taken as separate statements. He is a tool AND he also doesn't know how to spell one of the league's star's name correctly.
So, no. Not well said. |
Not spelling a person's name correctly on an online board is a silly thing to get upset over. Names are tricky to spell and people mess them up all the time. If I had a dollar for every time someone called Coach Reeve "Coach Reeves" I could probably retire. And I am sure LFO's name has been murdered more than a few times on these very boards.
For someone who gets upset every time they feel attacked on these boards, you sure do seem to enjoy tossing out insults at other posters. Nothing that LFO wrote here is worthy of him being called a "tool". All he did is recognize a player who is worthy of respect and accolades. Why was insulting someone necessary in response to such a positive post? |
Dear justintyme--I support your statements and your question. I believe it's not worthwhile to continue. There are people who desperately want attention. They get off on negative attention simply because it's attention.
It's better that the rest of us talk to each other about issues that are genuinely interesting and important.--Bob |
Now is about the perfect time to recall one of my favorite board moments.
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| It would be really nice if those who love Shoni Schmmel would respect her enough to spell her name correctly. |
http://boards.rebkell.net/viewtopic.php?t=85735&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1288
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| Posted: 06/23/17 6:48 am ::: |
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| You are welcome to re-post anything I've ever posted on this board. I stand by what I wrote above to justintyme.
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