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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 06/14/17 8:30 am ::: GOP Members Shot a Congressional Baseball Practice |
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A gunman opened fire on a Republican congressional team baseball practice Wednesday and Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., was among the wounded, authorities said.
Police in Alexandria, Va., said five people were provided medical transport and that a suspect was in custody. |
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/06/14/reports-congressman-others-shot-baseball-practice/102838314/
**Wow! Just as I clicked Submit, the power went out. I don't know that I had even let up on the mouse button!!!! Can't believe this posted!
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pilight
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Posted: 06/14/17 9:02 am ::: |
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Here's hoping no one was seriously hurt
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 06/14/17 11:33 am ::: |
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Never one to pass up an opportunity to grandstand and exploit a tragedy, Rep Steve King (R Iowa), a loyal member of the whacko fringe right, headed over to the Alexandria ballfield to find some reporters to whom he could rant that this is what happens when we have those damn liberal democrats who protest every day and won't accept, and want to overturn, the result of the election.
Yes, Stevie, you truly are a moron and an asshole.
Early reports are that the shooter was a socialist/Democrat, and apparently he asked to confirm this was the practice for the Republican softball team before he opened fire. So expect more hatemongering foolishness from King and his ilk.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 06/14/17 11:40 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Here's hoping no one was seriously hurt |
Six people were shot including the House Majority Whip who was shot in the hip and has undergone surgery. He'll reportedly be fine.
The shooter died. A Tysons Foods lobbyist is in critical condition at GW hospital. Everyone else who was shot, including two police officers, are reportedly in good condition.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 06/14/17 11:47 am ::: |
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Just to follow up on my previous post, the news is reporting that the shooter (who is dead and thus can't explain his actions) was a Bernie Sanders volunteer worker and has a Facebook page filled with anti-Trump stuff.
Expect a lot of ugly and overheated rhetoric. Because that's what our politics have devolved to
Just wait until Trump takes to Twitter.
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toad455
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Posted: 06/14/17 2:24 pm ::: |
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There was also a shooting today at a UPS facility in San Francisco & reports are coming in now of a shooting at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
So one a day isn't satisfactory enough? Multiple shootings a day are now needed? When is enough?
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 06/14/17 3:16 pm ::: |
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Rep Scalisi is now listed in critical condition.
Since he underwent surgery this morning and was then listed as satisfactory, that his condition may have deteriorated is not a good thing.
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ArtBest23
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cthskzfn
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Posted: 06/14/17 7:46 pm ::: |
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It's less the system than the way it's portrayed by media, imo.
You're correct that the media will overload on "left violence". More proof that media's bias truly leans "right".
But anyway, fuck Trump, FOX, the NRA, et al, for fomenting this bullshit.
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justintyme
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Posted: 06/14/17 8:10 pm ::: |
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The vast majority of the media doesn't lean "right". If anything the implicit biases of the journalists and editors would skew it slightly left.
But what it does do is skew "sensationalist" which means they love their tidy little narratives about these sorts of things. So we will hear about how this is a result of the anti-trump animosity and political rhetoric. Even though these actions are antithetical to everything the progressive movement stands for.
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ArtBest23
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Howee
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cthskzfn
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Posted: 06/14/17 9:44 pm ::: |
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justintyme wrote: |
The vast majority of the media doesn't lean "right". If anything the implicit biases of the journalists and editors would skew it slightly left. |
I disagree. Corporate media dominates media. Where is the left skew?
This tweet illustrates:
The Rude Pundit @rudepundit Jun 12
ACA: Dems involve GOP every step of the way
Media: "Dems ramming it thru"
AHCA: GOP cuts Dems out completely
Media: "Nothing to see here"
This article was written soon after the 2010 midterms:
So what to do in a political and cultural landscape in which well-told lies have more validity than fact-based truth? Perlstein explainedhow this environment gets created by explaining what happened on Election Day this year:
“...by a two-to-one margin likely voters thought their taxes had gone up, when, for almost all of them, they had actually gone down. Republican politicians, and conservative commentators, told them Barack Obama was a tax-mad lunatic. They lied. The mainstream media did not do their job and correct them. The White House was too polite—"civil," just like Obama promised—to say much. So people believed the lie.”
We’ve entered a bizzarro world in which calling out lies is considered rude, says Perlstein, so liars are allowed to sit tight and dominate the discourse. This gels with Bill Maher’s critique of the Rally for Sanity, that calling for “balance for balance’s sake” ignores two important aspects of news reporting: facts and evidence.
But the reality is that if messaging has such a big effect on Americans, then messaging matters. Folks on our end have to counter the lies with well-told, unabashed unironic, truth-telling. And we have to demand that our media, and our politicians, call out the other side. As Perlstein notes, “When one side breaks the social contract, and the other side makes a virtue of never calling them out on it, the liar always wins. When it becomes 'uncivil' to call out liars, lying becomes free.”
http://www.alternet.org/story/148826/16_of_the_dumbest_things_americans_believe_--_and_the_right-wing_lies_behind_them
In 3 of the last 5 POTUS elections, the Republicans have won via outright voter suppression, rigged polling machines, and foreign meddling, and thus we find ourselves where we are today, w/ a despicably corrupt, pathological liar/narcissistic mob boss in the WH.
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justintyme
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Posted: 06/14/17 9:56 pm ::: |
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From what I have seen the media has been extremely critical of the AHCA and how it was handled. The Sta Trib here just went off on how the Senate is basically looking to cut Medicaid in secret.
While the owners of the media companies are corporations, the newrooms themselves are populated by mostly left leaning individuals. Just run through the major networks' anchors and see how many conservatives you can find on a channel not named "fox". Now I don't buy the whole "MSM's liberal agenda" crap, but it will skew a little bit on how they perceive what is news and what isn't.
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mercfan3
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Posted: 06/14/17 10:13 pm ::: |
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cthskzfn wrote: |
It's less the system than the way it's portrayed by media, imo.
You're correct that the media will overload on "left violence". More proof that media's bias truly leans "right".
But anyway, fuck Trump, FOX, the NRA, et al, for fomenting this bullshit. |
When do we get to talk about male violence? (Particularly white male violence when it comes to shootings?)
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cthskzfn
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Posted: 06/15/17 7:49 am ::: |
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mercfan3 wrote: |
cthskzfn wrote: |
It's less the system than the way it's portrayed by media, imo.
You're correct that the media will overload on "left violence". More proof that media's bias truly leans "right".
But anyway, fuck Trump, FOX, the NRA, et al, for fomenting this bullshit. |
When do we get to talk about male violence? (Particularly white male violence when it comes to shootings?) |
An excellent point. If the media really were left, wouldn't that and plenty of other subjects be addressed more vigorously and honestly?
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Randy
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Posted: 06/15/17 1:27 pm ::: |
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It seems to me the polarization problem we have now is either the result, or product of the availability of multiple new sources with different political slants. People pick out the source most likely to support their views. Conservatives watch Fox for news and listen to Rush Limbaugh for entertainment; Liberals watch CNN or MSNBC for news and Samantha B for entertainment. With the new awareness of "fake news" people feel more and more justified in ignoring any facts that might disturb their world view, while quickly accepting facts that are merely propaganda and outright lies.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 06/15/17 1:55 pm ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
It seems to me the polarization problem we have now is either the result, or product of the availability of multiple new sources with different political slants. People pick out the source most likely to support their views. Conservatives watch Fox for news and listen to Rush Limbaugh for entertainment; Liberals watch CNN or MSNBC for news and Samantha B for entertainment. With the new awareness of "fake news" people feel more and more justified in ignoring any facts that might disturb their world view, while quickly accepting facts that are merely propaganda and outright lies. |
And then the internet with Facebook and Twitter and innumerable blogs and forums provides a feedback loop for like minded people to spread and recirculate the same nonsense and to pat each other on the back, assuring themselves that they are smart and right and under assault, and that all of those outside their circle are not only dishonest and wrong but are out to get them.
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Carol Anne
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cthskzfn
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Posted: 06/20/17 8:37 am ::: |
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Carol Anne wrote: |
https://twitter.com/Locs_n_Laughs/status/875334421242560512
Crystal Griner played college basketball for Maryland’s Hood College. |
I wonder if this experience will rid Scalise of his bigotry.
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Howee
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Posted: 06/20/17 9:16 am ::: |
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ArtBest23 wrote: |
Randy wrote: |
It seems to me the polarization problem we have now is either the result, or product of the availability of multiple new sources with different political slants. People pick out the source most likely to support their views. Conservatives watch Fox for news and listen to Rush Limbaugh for entertainment; Liberals watch CNN or MSNBC for news and Samantha B for entertainment. With the new awareness of "fake news" people feel more and more justified in ignoring any facts that might disturb their world view, while quickly accepting facts that are merely propaganda and outright lies. |
And then the internet with Facebook and Twitter and innumerable blogs and forums provides a feedback loop for like minded people to spread and recirculate the same nonsense and to pat each other on the back, assuring themselves that they are smart and right and under assault, and that all of those outside their circle are not only dishonest and wrong but are out to get them. |
Both are highly valid points. It would seem that it is the double-edged danger of having Too Many Voices and Too Little Critical Thinking in the same room.
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