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PostPosted: 05/18/17 10:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Welp.

Assuming Holly Rowe is correct and Boyd has a season-ending Achilles injury (that she seriously tried to walk off, I swear to the sweet hypothetical baby Jesus)... where do we go from here? Back to Lindsay Allen? Waiver wire? "Piph, congratulations, you're a point guard now?"

My off-the-wall theory: Tanisha Wright's been around, right? She's cored but unsigned, right? If we have, or can make, the cap room to bring her back in...



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They probably can't afford Wright and keep 12 players(one being an injured Boyd). That means definitely one, possibly two players would need to get cut(Burdick & Raincock). I doubt they could afford Wright, plus 11 players & put Boyd on the injured list. We'll see what the verdict is tomorrow, but I'm assuming L. Allen comes back. We can't just have Hartley running PG when Prince leaves.



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PostPosted: 05/18/17 11:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I feel sick. Just a few days ago I was thinking besides Tina that Boyd was the player we could least afford to lose. Ugh!!!!!!



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PostPosted: 05/18/17 11:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I feel sick. Just a few days ago I was thinking besides Tina that Boyd was the player we could least afford to lose. Ugh!!!!!!


You might have been right. She was their best pace guard and probably their best on-ball defender too. Really sucks.



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PostPosted: 05/19/17 12:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I know a pretty darn good PG who is just a stones throw away that just might come out of retirement to play for the New York Liberty. Wink

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PostPosted: 05/19/17 1:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Very sad for Boyd.

If she is out for the year can we bring in another player without having to cut someone? Or would she still count as being on the roster meaning we can only have 11 the rest of the season?


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PostPosted: 05/19/17 1:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Unless they've loosened up the suspension rules yet more, you either have to carry her or cut her. So to add, for example, a Lindsay Allen, you'd have to cut one of the 12 currently on the roster.

It does, obviously, mean you're closer to being eligible to add a player via hardship exemption, but you're not getting that for just one injury, even when it's a long-term one.

(the Libs have plenty of cap room, by the way. A move like cutting Raincock-Ekunwe to add Tanisha Wright wouldn't be a problem)



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The T. Wright idea is interesting.

Are we really that close to the cap?

Boyd, R. Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe, Stokes and Zahui B are all on rookie contracts.

If not Wright or L. Allen what about giving B. Hopkins another shot. She was in our camp last season, and had a good showing in LA. She has been playing great in Israel, and is seasoned enough to be a serious player for NY right now?

If we are excited about Raincock-Ekunwe we could also try trading Zahui B. for a PG or if we want to bring one in (like Allen or Hopkins) trading Zahui B for future consideration. (This is nothing against Zahui B I want her to breakout this season fro NY, just thinking of other possibilities.)

Zahui B for A. Jones or Minny's very late first round pick in 18? Zahui B for Latta or Washington's very late first round pick in 18? Zahui B for Colson or SA's very early 2nd round pick in 18?


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PostPosted: 05/19/17 5:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think the Liberty will wait to sign anyone. We have Prince & Hartley for now. L. Allen likely comes back when Prince leaves for the Euros. Then possibly L. Allen just keeps getting signed to 10 day contracts.



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PostPosted: 05/19/17 6:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Erin Phillips would make sense for the Liberty, unless age really has diminished her game a lot. Would she come out of retirement? Players have done that before.


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Erin Phillips would make sense for the Liberty, unless age really has diminished her game a lot. Would she come out of retirement? Players have done that before.


Possibly. Do the Liberty waive Burdick or Raincock?



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Randy wrote:
Erin Phillips would make sense for the Liberty, unless age really has diminished her game a lot. Would she come out of retirement? Players have done that before.


Possibly. Do the Liberty waive Burdick or Raincock?

Have you watched the first two games? Burdick's pretty much been the first player off the bench (and looked pretty good doing it); Raincock-Ekunwe's basically 12th.



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The Liberty are looking to be a mess this year, and even worse now without Boyd. Stokes looks like she came back completely out of shape and with some weight gain. She looked like she was huffing and puffing a lot in the last game. Picking up Kia Vaughn, shaking my head at that. The last time she was with the Liberty, she was kinda forgetful if I recall. I think she's a downgrade from Carolyn Swords. Picking up Bria Hartley?? I mean really? She's been a complete bust so far in the WNBA and looks lost out there. Epiphanny Prince is a good player when she's decides to be available to play for the Liberty.

The Liberty roster was better last year. I don't seem them doing better or at least even matching their record they had last year.


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PostPosted: 05/19/17 12:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I know a pretty darn good PG who is just a stones throw away that just might come out of retirement to play for the New York Liberty. Wink

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The ONLY good one I can think of that may come out of retirement to play for the New York Liberty is Erin Phillips. Aside from that, there's nothing.

PS, I thought you retired from following the WNBA? Maybe you can come out of retirement and be the Liberty's new PG. Probably make a better option than to the player your pointing too Wink


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PostPosted: 05/19/17 12:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The T. Wright idea is interesting.

Are we really that close to the cap?

Boyd, R. Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe, Stokes and Zahui B are all on rookie contracts.

If not Wright or L. Allen what about giving B. Hopkins another shot. She was in our camp last season, and had a good showing in LA. She has been playing great in Israel, and is seasoned enough to be a serious player for NY right now?

If we are excited about Raincock-Ekunwe we could also try trading Zahui B. for a PG or if we want to bring one in (like Allen or Hopkins) trading Zahui B for future consideration. (This is nothing against Zahui B I want her to breakout this season fro NY, just thinking of other possibilities.)

Zahui B for A. Jones or Minny's very late first round pick in 18? Zahui B for Latta or Washington's very late first round pick in 18? Zahui B for Colson or SA's very early 2nd round pick in 18?


I think you missed Richyyy's point. NY has plenty of cap space. However, you need to cut someone to free up a roster spot. Injuries do not allow you to suspend a player, so Boyd stays on the roster. That is unless you're willing to cut her, which I doubt management wants to do. So, to add a player you either have to cut someone else or trade a player off your current squad. Right now, Nayo looks to be the most vulnerable.

If they make a move, it should be for a true PG. I don't see the point of bringing in another combo guard unless you've already lost faith in Prince or Hartley. However, it probably does make sense to wait since there are so many questions left unanswered. The fact remains that this team hasn't looked good since before the Olympic break. There are some more fundamental problems going on, and haphazardly blaming individual players is not going to fix them.



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PostPosted: 05/19/17 1:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ay Mate wrote:
Jet Jaguar wrote:
I know a pretty darn good PG who is just a stones throw away that just might come out of retirement to play for the New York Liberty. Wink

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The ONLY good one I can think of that may come out of retirement to play for the New York Liberty is Erin Phillips. Aside from that, there's nothing.

PS, I thought you retired from following the WNBA? Maybe you can come out of retirement and be the Liberty's new PG. Probably make a better option than to the player your pointing too Wink

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PostPosted: 05/19/17 2:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
toad455 wrote:
Randy wrote:
Erin Phillips would make sense for the Liberty, unless age really has diminished her game a lot. Would she come out of retirement? Players have done that before.


Possibly. Do the Liberty waive Burdick or Raincock?

Have you watched the first two games? Burdick's pretty much been the first player off the bench (and looked pretty good doing it); Raincock-Ekunwe's basically 12th.


I think quite a few of the Liberty fan here think Nayo is really cute so that is clouding their judgement I'm afraid.

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PostPosted: 05/19/17 2:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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J-Spoon wrote:
The T. Wright idea is interesting.

Are we really that close to the cap?

Boyd, R. Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe, Stokes and Zahui B are all on rookie contracts.

If not Wright or L. Allen what about giving B. Hopkins another shot. She was in our camp last season, and had a good showing in LA. She has been playing great in Israel, and is seasoned enough to be a serious player for NY right now?

If we are excited about Raincock-Ekunwe we could also try trading Zahui B. for a PG or if we want to bring one in (like Allen or Hopkins) trading Zahui B for future consideration. (This is nothing against Zahui B I want her to breakout this season fro NY, just thinking of other possibilities.)

Zahui B for A. Jones or Minny's very late first round pick in 18? Zahui B for Latta or Washington's very late first round pick in 18? Zahui B for Colson or SA's very early 2nd round pick in 18?


I think you missed Richyyy's point. NY has plenty of cap space. However, you need to cut someone to free up a roster spot. Injuries do not allow you to suspend a player, so Boyd stays on the roster. That is unless you're willing to cut her, which I doubt management wants to do. So, to add a player you either have to cut someone else or trade a player off your current squad. Right now, Nayo looks to be the most vulnerable.

If they make a move, it should be for a true PG. I don't see the point of bringing in another combo guard unless you've already lost faith in Prince or Hartley. However, it probably does make sense to wait since there are so many questions left unanswered. The fact remains that this team hasn't looked good since before the Olympic break. There are some more fundamental problems going on, and haphazardly blaming individual players is not going to fix them.


I understood Richyyy's point it was everyone else talking about cap trouble that was confusing.

I'd rather keep Raincock Ekunwe which is why I was coming up with trades with Zahui for PGs (I view Jones, Colson and Latta as PGs at least more than Prince or Hartley) or future consideration so we open up a roster spot to bring someone else in.

But I agree with Toad we should just roll with what we have and bring someone in when Prince goes back abroad.


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Maybe they trade someone for a pick to free up a spot? Zahui B to San Antonio for their 2nd round pick?



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I don't foresee a quick fix. There's no players out there good enough to make a difference immediately. And the Libs' system isn't going to be the most PG-friendly in the world where a new player will come in and be ready to go.

Piph has only been here for 12 days and a number of players are not 100% yet. So while I don't think the first two games are representative of our team, that "built on depth" thing is quickly going by the wayside. As is wearing teams down with our speed.

Plus the obvious that Hartley as the only PG in Prince's absence is a problem of significance. I'd say bringing back Allen is your best option because she knows the system already.

This is the third major injury within the first five games of the regular season in the team's history. I know it happens. But it feels like it's just devastating when it happens to us.



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That sucks for Boyd and the team too.

Prince looked healthy to me. Straight line speed was good and smooth. Whalen tested her side-to-side right away in the 1st when she came in, saw what she saw, started the offense instead of trying a 1-on-1 (she did stick it to her late in the 4th, as a dagger). I only saw Prince grimacing the once, but didn't seem winded at all. I think the lack of production was mostly timing, coming back up to full speed against the Champs, is a tough go for anyone.

Zealous is listed at 188, but looked about the same as last year. Odd typo, umm, did they whoopsy that from someone else?


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How do you guys feel about hartley's 2 performances so far this season ? Or does she get a pass since shes coming off a pregnancy a few months ago ?



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I'd rather keep Raincock Ekunwe which is why I was coming up with trades with Zahui for PGs (I view Jones, Colson and Latta as PGs at least more than Prince or Hartley) or future consideration so we open up a roster spot to bring someone else in.

If you keep NRE and trade Zahui B., then you'll make this team even smaller. I don't think Laimbeer wants that, nor does he want to move Charles back to center. In addition, we know Vaughn is gone for awhile for Eurobasket. That leaves you with one center. Yes, they can bring in a replacement player, but it's doubtful that person will ever get off the bench. So your post rotation is Stokes, Charles, and NRE? I don't think so. If you cut Nayo, you can always move Burdick over to PF if necessary. They are roughly the same size. NRE is more athletic, but Burdick seems better prepared for the WNBA at this time.

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Zealous is listed at 188, but looked about the same as last year. Odd typo, umm, did they whoopsy that from someone else?

Zealous was listed at 188 lbs last season too. I guess Charles regained some weight this year, but supposedly Tina was 186 last season. That means Shavonte was bigger. Smile

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How do you guys feel about hartley's 2 performances so far this season ? Or does she get a pass since shes coming off a pregnancy a few months ago ?

It's only two games. And given that our MVP candidate is shooting .286, and our former All-WNBA guard is shooting .167, how can you beat-up on the reserve PG? That's like having your house on fire, but worrying that your lawn needs to be watered.



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WNBA 09 wrote:
How do you guys feel about hartley's 2 performances so far this season ? Or does she get a pass since shes coming off a pregnancy a few months ago ?


It's not like she showed anything in Washington for three years either. But she looks good while she doesn't do much. Wink



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WNBA 09 wrote:
How do you guys feel about hartley's 2 performances so far this season ? Or does she get a pass since shes coming off a pregnancy a few months ago ?


It's not like she showed anything in Washington for three years either. But she looks good while she doesn't do much. Wink


Well it looks like she might get some real minutes now to sink or swim.

When I watch her I do see a WNBA level player, she has good handle, moves well, etc, hopefully when given a bigger opportunity she'll step up and produce.


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We'll likely just see Prince & Hartley split time at PG. Prince leaves and they bring back L. Allen and possibly keep her through a string of 10-day contracts once Prince comes back.



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How do you guys feel about hartley's 2 performances so far this season ? Or does she get a pass since shes coming off a pregnancy a few months ago ?


Not great but she's a combo guard learning the point guard position on a post-heavy team. Coming from a more perimeter-oriented system it's undoubtedly an adjustment. And she hasn't been with NY that long so I'm in wait and see mode to see how she improves.

You may remember Erica Wheeker was signed when Boyd got hurt in 2015. She was horrendous with the Libs. Not a great player in general but more functional on any of the other teams she's played on than she was with the Libs where she could barely get the ball over mid court.

I think this season is about treading water in the first half and hoping a Piph-Sugar-Allen perimeter combo enables you to get hot at the right time.

The loss of Piph to Euros really intensifies the significance of Boyd's loss. And I'm sure to see Boyd develop before our eyes had to be a major source of pride to the organization. As a fan it's awesome. Achilles injuries are very tricky long-term. So no telling beyond this year what may happen but it just hurts so much to see a player coming into her own and it's taken away in an instant. Seeing young talent develop is generally the best part of being a fan.



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Worth noting Charles mentioned in her post game sound the difficulties Boyd went through with the wrist injury. Which suggests her difficulties with that were beyond the scope of what we already knew.



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So about Shoni Schimmel Rolling Eyes


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So about Shoni Schimmel Rolling Eyes


If she'd felt like showing up, she would have come in handy. But since having her physically present, much less mentally present, appears to be too much to ask...



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They suspended Schimmel for the full season anyway, so not an option even if she walked through the door for some reason.



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http://www.msgnetworks.com/2017/05/19/liberty-dealt-blow-lose-brittany-boyd-for-season/



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When do Piph and Kia leave for Eurobasket? I'm looking at the schedule and what would have been favorable for us with a complete roster is basically riddled with question marks. Will Piph and Kia play against LA on the 30th? At this point I'm sort of glad we still have next year's first rounder. I don't see us having the type of situation to be able to withstand too many more injuries, especially in the immediate future.

Honestly, if we're 7-6 entering July I'll be thrilled. Not only do we have offensive questions, but if Kiah isn't right we are nothing special defensively either. If Kiah was Kiah, I'd think we can at least win some games ugly. But without that and with our personnel losses from last year we are definitely not equipped to win ugly. And without Boyd, Piph and Vaughn I'd say we're not equipped to win pretty either.



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Vaughn provides more on offense than Stokes or even Swords did. But Swords has such a high IQ about the game, I wish we still had her in a Liberty uniform. And we'd have Swords for the whole season. Prince & Vaughn should be out between June 12 - 28 depending how far the teams go. That's 4, possibly 5 games they'll only miss. The Euro final is on June 25. Likely what we'll have when Prince & Vaughn are out are:

PG: Hartley/L. Allen
SG: Rodgers/Zellous
SF: R. Allen/Burdick
PF: Charles/Zahui B./Raincock
C: Stokes/[Kai James?]



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You've played two games and have one injury to a player most people thought was your third-string point guard before the season started. I wouldn't jump off a bridge just yet.



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For what it's worth, there's an Americup 2017 Tournament that takes place in Argentina from August 7-13. It's just four teams -- Argentina (rank #16), Canada (6), Colombia (47), Venezuela (30) -- fighting for three spots in the 2018 World Cup. Will Nayo have to attend? The competition doesn't look that tough, and three out of four teams making the cut is pretty good odds. I doubt Canada needs NRE, but you never know when it comes to national team politics. They may want her there anyway. Of course, the Liberty don't need Nayo that much either, but it's just another consideration for you folks who love playing GM. Smile



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You've played two games and have one injury to a player most people thought was your third-string point guard before the season started. I wouldn't jump off a bridge just yet.

True, but everyone we were relying on has sorta sucked. Boyd was the sole bright spot -- the only person who played well in both games -- so losing her is a bit disconcerting.



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You've played two games and have one injury to a player most people thought was your third-string point guard before the season started. I wouldn't jump off a bridge just yet.


I think most people thought Boyd was our second string PG, no? I know at no point did I have Hartley ahead of Boyd. And I knew from the preseason game at Columbia that Rodgers would not be playing a second of lead guard as per that Lenn Robbins article.

But beyond that, I think certain circumstances have changed. We as fans didn't really know coming into the season that Stokes wouldn't an early-season factor. We really couldn't say how Piph would function in a combo-guard role because we knew she'd only have a brief training camp with the team. Factoring in further Rebecca Allen's injury also. And Zahui barely being good enough to get off the bench after showing some overseas promise. So I think that defensively we are much worse off than we'd have thought we'd be. And offensively we don't have any person proven to be able to run NY's offense without Piph and Boyd available. And certain players we'd be hoping to step up offensively (Allen, Zahui) haven't demonstrated the readiness to do it either because of injury or otherwise. Just being realistic, the immediate future does not look promising.



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For what it's worth, there's an Americup 2017 Tournament that takes place in Argentina from August 7-13. It's just four teams -- Argentina (rank #16), Canada (6), Colombia (47), Venezuela (30) -- fighting for three spots in the 2018 World Cup. Will Nayo have to attend? The competition doesn't look that tough, and three out of four teams making the cut is pretty good odds. I doubt Canada needs NRE, but you never know when it comes to national team politics. They may want her there anyway. Of course, the Liberty don't need Nayo that much either, but it's just another consideration for you folks who love playing GM. Smile

There will surely be more teams than that (typically 10 total), although FIBA's site doesn't want to offer any information on the qualifying structure or organisation. It's the Americas Championship (the equivalent of EuroBasket Women that all the euros leave for, except that the US doesn't care so they don't enter). Four teams would be silly.



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For what it's worth, there's an Americup 2017 Tournament that takes place in Argentina from August 7-13. It's just four teams -- Argentina (rank #16), Canada (6), Colombia (47), Venezuela (30) -- fighting for three spots in the 2018 World Cup. Will Nayo have to attend? The competition doesn't look that tough, and three out of four teams making the cut is pretty good odds. I doubt Canada needs NRE, but you never know when it comes to national team politics. They may want her there anyway. Of course, the Liberty don't need Nayo that much either, but it's just another consideration for you folks who love playing GM. Smile

There will surely be more teams than that (typically 10 total), although FIBA's site doesn't want to offer any information on the qualifying structure or organisation. It's the Americas Championship (the equivalent of EuroBasket Women that all the euros leave for, except that the US doesn't care so they don't enter). Four teams would be silly.


It did seem weird, but I couldn't find more information. I thought maybe this was some kind of delayed final four. The tournament is only two and a half months away, and they have a whole website set up. Four teams is all they list. Why isn't there more information about the other teams? You would think a qualifying tournament would have been held by now. Maybe they're picking the other teams out of a hat? Laughing



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OK, so clicking around I did find information that mostly indicates there will be 10 teams, although they use the word "eight":

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The competition system for the FIBA Women’s AmeriCup consists of two phases. In the Group Phase, the eight (10) participating teams will be divided into two (2) groups of five (5) teams. Teams will play in round-robin format for four days. The best two teams from each group will advance to the next phase, where the first place of Group A will play against the second place in Group B and vice versa. The winners of the Semi-Finals will advance to the Gold Medal Match, while the losers will play for the bronze.



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OK, so clicking around I did find information that mostly indicates there will be 10 teams, although they use the word "eight":

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The competition system for the FIBA Women’s AmeriCup consists of two phases. In the Group Phase, the eight (10) participating teams will be divided into two (2) groups of five (5) teams. Teams will play in round-robin format for four days. The best two teams from each group will advance to the next phase, where the first place of Group A will play against the second place in Group B and vice versa. The winners of the Semi-Finals will advance to the Gold Medal Match, while the losers will play for the bronze.


their website only lists four teams. very odd. the 2015 tournament had Canada, plus 4 Caribbean teams & 5 teams from South America.



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OK, so clicking around I did find information that mostly indicates there will be 10 teams, although they use the word "eight":

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The competition system for the FIBA Women’s AmeriCup consists of two phases. In the Group Phase, the eight (10) participating teams will be divided into two (2) groups of five (5) teams. Teams will play in round-robin format for four days. The best two teams from each group will advance to the next phase, where the first place of Group A will play against the second place in Group B and vice versa. The winners of the Semi-Finals will advance to the Gold Medal Match, while the losers will play for the bronze.


their website only lists four teams. very odd. the 2015 tournament had Canada, plus 4 Caribbean teams & 5 teams from South America.


Yeah, you would expect to see teams like Brazil and Puerto Rico in the tournament. I don't get it. Events usually need to be planned. If nothing else, you want to book early to ensure that you have flight and hotel accommodations -- not to mention getting the best rates. Maybe the FIBA web intern just didn't have time to type in the other 6 teams yet. Razz



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If the Caribbean Championship in 2015 was the qualifier for this, the four teams from that tournament would be: Bahamas, Jamaica, US Virgin Islands & Barbados. I'd guess and say the other teams might be Brazil & Cuba.



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Watching Seattle now and having watched part of Phoenix's destruction of Indiana last week, one thing is readily apparent. The Liberty in the past two years could impose their will on most teams through defense, rebounding, and controlling the paint on offense. The readily apparent thing is without that ability, these talented teams with multiple superstars are not teams we are going to be a favorite to beat.

I don't know if Taurasi can appeal her suspension or even if she would want to. But if we luck out with that maybe we can snare a win in Phoenix. But if we can't impose a defense/rebounding/control the paint scenario against Seattle, there's no ifs, ands or buts about it. We will lose that game by 15+ without a doubt. We don't have enough talent to out-talent that team, especially the way Loyd is playing.

Short version. Stokes has to become Stokes soon. That's NY's X-factor. And while I think there's a chance that NY can get hot at the right time down the stretch of the season with a combo of Charles and a lot of offense to space the floor, I'm now glad that we did not trade our first-rounder. It's not only good insurance to have against other injuries, but if it even turns out to be in the 7 or 8 neighborhood, perhaps it can be combined with a player to get another star player higher in the draft.



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Side Note: Saw ads for the Liberty on GoComics.com.
Are there a lot of cartoon-reading Liberty fans?
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Chelsea Hopkins liked my comment on twitter when i said we need a PG lol


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Chelsea Hopkins liked my comment on twitter when i said we need a PG lol


So you found out what this board is all about LMAO



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Side Note: Saw ads for the Liberty on GoComics.com.
Are there a lot of cartoon-reading Liberty fans?


because you clicked on the Lib site ....those postings are at places you click on its called advertising, and done by computer marketing agencies



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Side Note: Saw ads for the Liberty on GoComics.com.
Are there a lot of cartoon-reading Liberty fans?


because you clicked on the Lib site ....those postings are at places you click on its called advertising, and done by computer marketing agencies


It seems like the WNBA might be putting some extra money into that type of internet advertising (eg. Google ads), because I have noticed WNBA-related ads all over the place lately - far more than ever before.



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