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PostPosted: 04/19/17 7:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I love Gemelos, but ANOTHER GUARD?!?!?! Rolling Eyes


She plays SF too. Not the physical SF that some fans want, but at 6-0 165 lbs Gemelos is the same size as Carson. You have the grinders in Slaughter, Burdick, and NRE. But they can't shoot. So, you also want to look at someone who is an offensive threat.



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Any idea what her overseas numbers were like? I'm especially curious about minutes played.



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Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


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Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


At the moment, assuming Schimmel is coming to training camp, that would mean 19 players fighting for 12 roster spots. But I figure that 10 are definite: Charles, Rodgers, Prince, Stokes, Rebecca Allen, Vaughn, Zahui B, Zellous, Boyd, and Hartley. If that's correct, then nine players are competing for two jobs. That is daunting math. It's not going to end happily for quite a few of the players you like.



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Any idea what her overseas numbers were like? I'm especially curious about minutes played.


Here are the numbers:

16 games, 35.4 mpg, 14.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.3 apg, 38-93 40.9 3Pt%

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Italy/Dike-Napoli/11605?Page=3

Gemelos played the first game of the season and then disappeared for two months (9 games). I haven't been able to find a reason. In the games she did play, the only time she logged less than 30 minutes was the final game of the regular season. I assume they were resting her. She played all 40 minutes 3 times, including last week on April 12th.



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Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


Part of the double-edged sword that is being a season ticket holder. You get to know these ladies personally and then you're gutted when they get cut or traded.



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Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


Given that Bill puts a premium on players who are good teammates, that mostly eliminates the unlikeable people. If you draw a Venn diagram, the good teammate and unlikeable circles don't overlap very much. Smile

In all seriousness, most of these players know that they are longshots. However, it looks good on your résumé to have been in a WNBA camp when you go searching for overseas gigs. You may also learn some things that actually improve your game.



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So, it looks like Bec Allen hasn't played since March 15th? Shocked I found a foreign language article which, when translated, indicates she had some kind of arm injury. No other details.



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NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote:
Any idea what her overseas numbers were like? I'm especially curious about minutes played.


Here are the numbers:

16 games, 35.4 mpg, 14.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.3 apg, 38-93 40.9 3Pt%

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/team/Italy/Dike-Napoli/11605?Page=3

Gemelos played the first game of the season and then disappeared for two months (9 games). I haven't been able to find a reason. In the games she did play, the only time she logged less than 30 minutes was the final game of the regular season. I assume they were resting her. She played all 40 minutes 3 times, including last week on April 12th.

She had some sort of hand injury. Wasn't too serious so it didn't last the whole season.



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J-Spoon wrote:
Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


At the moment, assuming Schimmel is coming to training camp, that would mean 19 players fighting for 12 roster spots. But I figure that 10 are definite: Charles, Rodgers, Prince, Stokes, Rebecca Allen, Vaughn, Zahui B, Zellous, Boyd, and Hartley. If that's correct, then nine players are competing for two jobs. That is daunting math. It's not going to end happily for quite a few of the players you like.


I agree with your 10 locks.

I would go a step further and say 1 of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe will get the 11th spot, with the very outside chance that Slaughter could get the spot over either of the others.

So it is two players competing for one spot, and then the remaining 8 players competing for the other spot. Why I say the remaining 8 is because it is possible that the team takes two forwards for the last two spot if one or both can do some minutes at the SF spot. Even if logic dictates that the last spot goes to guard/wing.

11 spot Burdick or Raicock-Ekunwe (Slaughter or James)

12 spot L. Allen, Barbee, Schimmel, Alston, Gemelos, (remaining player between Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe and Slaughter not chosen at 11 if we decide go bigger on the wing).

I may have subconsciously listed players in descending order of possibility if I was giving out odds of making the cut.


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J-Spoon wrote:
Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


Hey I grew to love Talbert...last year at Columbia I tried and somewhat succeeded in getting her a standing ovation when she entered and left the game because we knew that her time as a lib was done...but it was an important 2.5 seasons.

I was one of those who was glad a few years back that Bill gave Loree Moore a training camp invite...I was also the first to bring up that she was done and had to go.

I once had an STJ Booster rip the libs for cutting Shanekia Smith...my reply was afraid to shoot last cut and should have been

Treat the players as friends but the team as a business...that normally helps...cant get too attatched end of the day 12 players with the biggest chance to help this team win games stay and the rest get chances elsewhere. This is what you trust the coach and GM to do...There are exceptions (I think what you described is one of the bigger reasons the huddled masses did not accept Pondexter pretty much from day 1)

As for Schimmel I'm sure she'd be someone I'd love to have a beer with but her lack of conditioning and passion for the game just makes me count the days until shes gone...what a waste of talent...she'd have to come in looking like her sr year at Louisville for me to trust her...the Harold Miner of the WNBA



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J-Spoon wrote:
Bob Lamm wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


At the moment, assuming Schimmel is coming to training camp, that would mean 19 players fighting for 12 roster spots. But I figure that 10 are definite: Charles, Rodgers, Prince, Stokes, Rebecca Allen, Vaughn, Zahui B, Zellous, Boyd, and Hartley. If that's correct, then nine players are competing for two jobs. That is daunting math. It's not going to end happily for quite a few of the players you like.


I agree with your 10 locks.

I would go a step further and say 1 of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe will get the 11th spot, with the very outside chance that Slaughter could get the spot over either of the others.

So it is two players competing for one spot, and then the remaining 8 players competing for the other spot. Why I say the remaining 8 is because it is possible that the team takes two forwards for the last two spot if one or both can do some minutes at the SF spot. Even if logic dictates that the last spot goes to guard/wing.

11 spot Burdick or Raicock-Ekunwe (Slaughter or James)

12 spot L. Allen, Barbee, Schimmel, Alston, Gemelos, (remaining player between Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe and Slaughter not chosen at 11 if we decide go bigger on the wing).

I may have subconsciously listed players in descending order of possibility if I was giving out odds of making the cut.


To make it more clear...Because Vaughn will miss time for EuroBasket I'd lock in either Burdick or Raincock for at least the first half of the season (Bill is NOT above cutting a TC keeping them nearby and then bringing them back midseason especially when its a posistional issue.

L. Allen I think is a lock and have her at 11....she'd have to be Orrange lost for them not to use her as they seem to want a pure 1 somewhere on the roster (Last year it was harding and as they found out the hard way...not an attitude you want on a team like this and she was disposed of pretty quickly after 2 starts where she was horrid)

That's how it stands now...I am not ruling out the mid camp trade or scrap heap picking however.



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J-Spoon wrote:
Bob Lamm wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
Please no more player who are remotely likable.

I like Schimmel, Alston, Hartley, Allen, Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe seems cool, Barbee is a hard worker, and now we've added Gemelos who is a likable fighter, and I'm sure Slaughter is great too, that is simply too many players to have to watch get cut. I think NY should partition to expand rosters to at least 15 simply so most everyone gets to stay.


At the moment, assuming Schimmel is coming to training camp, that would mean 19 players fighting for 12 roster spots. But I figure that 10 are definite: Charles, Rodgers, Prince, Stokes, Rebecca Allen, Vaughn, Zahui B, Zellous, Boyd, and Hartley. If that's correct, then nine players are competing for two jobs. That is daunting math. It's not going to end happily for quite a few of the players you like.


I agree with your 10 locks.

I would go a step further and say 1 of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe will get the 11th spot, with the very outside chance that Slaughter could get the spot over either of the others.

So it is two players competing for one spot, and then the remaining 8 players competing for the other spot. Why I say the remaining 8 is because it is possible that the team takes two forwards for the last two spot if one or both can do some minutes at the SF spot. Even if logic dictates that the last spot goes to guard/wing.

11 spot Burdick or Raicock-Ekunwe (Slaughter or James)

12 spot L. Allen, Barbee, Schimmel, Alston, Gemelos, (remaining player between Burdick, Raincock-Ekunwe and Slaughter not chosen at 11 if we decide go bigger on the wing).

I may have subconsciously listed players in descending order of possibility if I was giving out odds of making the cut.


To make it more clear...Because Vaughn will miss time for EuroBasket I'd lock in either Burdick or Raincock for at least the first half of the season (Bill is NOT above cutting a TC keeping them nearby and then bringing them back midseason especially when its a posistional issue.

L. Allen I think is a lock and have her at 11....she'd have to be Orrange lost for them not to use her as they seem to want a pure 1 somewhere on the roster (Last year it was harding and as they found out the hard way...not an attitude you want on a team like this and she was disposed of pretty quickly after 2 starts where she was horrid)

That's how it stands now...I am not ruling out the mid camp trade or scrap heap picking however.


So if you're L. Allen theory is correct we're looking at,

Prince/Boyd/Allen
Rodgers/Hartley
Allen/Zellous
Charles/Zahui B/Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe
Stokes/Vaughn

with everyone else on the outside looking in. This seems very likely to be the final roster, but I still think going a little bigger is possible with both Burdick and Raicock-Ekunwe making the final squad, or that Alston, Barbee or Schimmel could beat out L. Allen if Hartley is proving capable of being that 3rd PG. With that said I remember some comments posted here from the coach stating that they really wanted to improve the PG situation and the drafting of L. Allen seems to fit with that plan.


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So if you're L. Allen theory is correct we're looking at,

Prince/Boyd/Allen
Rodgers/Hartley
Allen/Zellous
Charles/Zahui B/Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe
Stokes/Vaughn


Right now, I'd give this alignment the best odds. I think Burdick has the edge on Raincock-Ekunwe. NY may need someone to serve as a big SF, and Burdick has actually played the 3. I've never seen either Nayo or Slaughter play SF, although they seem to have the quickness to defend there. Nonetheless, that's just theory and then there's the question of how they'd fare on offense. While Burdick isn't a great shooter, she looks better than the other two. Cierra may also have some ability to create off the bounce since she was on the Gold Medal winning 3x3 team. 3x3 looks like it's mostly one-on-one basketball. And for what it's worth, Cierra should adjust to life in NYC more easily since she spent some time here as an intern for Robin Roberts on Good Morning America.



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Given that Bill puts a premium on players who are good teammates, that mostly eliminates the unlikeable people. If you draw a Venn diagram, the good teammate and unlikeable circles don't overlap very much. Smile



Funny, but I always thought unlikeability was an attribute the Liberty were looking for.


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PostPosted: 04/20/17 12:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Laimbeer on drafting Allen.

It sounds like she was their target in the draft, which suggests she will be on the roster.

https://twitter.com/nyliberty/status/852710581329158144


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Given that Bill puts a premium on players who are good teammates, that mostly eliminates the unlikeable people. If you draw a Venn diagram, the good teammate and unlikeable circles don't overlap very much. Smile



Funny, but I always thought unlikeability was an attribute the Liberty were looking for.


The Bad Girls are more of a Detroit Shock concept than a NY Liberty thing, although people associate it with Bill. Also, "unlikeable" is often based on POV. Hardnosed play can make you unlikeable to opponents and their fans while endearing you to your teammates and your own fans. And then there are individuals who have one personality on the court while being very different off the court. I've heard that Plenette Pierson is like that.



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I have to admit the moment we signed Burdick I was excited and thought she would make the team. Her style fits with the team, she plays a relentless, physical game, she can play the 4 or the 3, and she seems to be one of those player who keeps working on her game so she can stick in the league (Atl probably should of kept her over Gray last season). Those are the kind of attributes that will work well on the Liberty bench.


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Gemelos played the first game of the season and then disappeared for two months (9 games). I haven't been able to find a reason. In the games she did play, the only time she logged less than 30 minutes was the final game of the regular season. I assume they were resting her. She played all 40 minutes 3 times, including last week on April 12th.

She had some sort of hand injury. Wasn't too serious so it didn't last the whole season.


Thanks. Injuries overseas always seem to be a mystery.



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Can anyone shed light on Rebecca Allen's status?



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Can anyone shed light on Rebecca Allen's status?


She will be here for the start of Training Camp



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No tweets from Allen about her arm injury, and no one consoling her. There was no activity on her account for over a month. I'm hoping no news is good news. Good Angels ended their season yesterday, so Allen has no obligations left. Sunday is only three days away...



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Please no more player who are remotely likable.


Bad news, Spooner. My discussion in the Surprise Uninvited thread may have gotten the Libs another likeable player on the roster. Chinwe Okorie from MSU. I could see Laimbeer liking her. I'd definitely rate her above Kai James.



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Please no more player who are remotely likable.


Bad news, Spooner. My discussion in the Surprise Uninvited thread may have gotten the Libs another likeable player on the roster. Chinwe Okorie from MSU. I could see Laimbeer liking her. I'd definitely rate her above Kai James.


I'm not that familiar with her but based on a description Root gave I do not see her, or James for that matter challenging for a spot. Our four current posts Stokes, Vaughn, Charles and Zahui B can all play both the Center or Forward spot so we're covered for true bigs. We do need a player who can play the 3 and the 4 which is why one of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe looks like a sure thing.


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No tweets from Allen about her arm injury, and no one consoling her. There was no activity on her account for over a month. I'm hoping no news is good news. Good Angels ended their season yesterday, so Allen has no obligations left. Sunday is only three days away...


Maybe her Twitter finger is busted. Wink



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Please no more player who are remotely likable.


Bad news, Spooner. My discussion in the Surprise Uninvited thread may have gotten the Libs another likeable player on the roster. Chinwe Okorie from MSU. I could see Laimbeer liking her. I'd definitely rate her above Kai James.


I'm not that familiar with her but based on a description Root gave I do not see her, or James for that matter challenging for a spot. Our four current posts Stokes, Vaughn, Charles and Zahui B can all play both the Center or Forward spot so we're covered for true bigs. We do need a player who can play the 3 and the 4 which is why one of Burdick or Raincock-Ekunwe looks like a sure thing.


Earlier I had nine players competing for two roster spots. Now it's 10 players competing for those two jobs. And if we believe that Lindsay Allen is a lock to make the team, then it's nine players competing for ONE roster spot.



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If Schimmel is in shape, as suggested, I would say all bets are off



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Schimmel variation (the one I've been secretly rooting for but had given up on)

Prince/Boyd
Rodgers/Hartley/Schimmel
Allen/Zellous
Charles/Zahui B/Burrdick or Raincock-Ekunwe
Stokes/Vaughn

I like Schimmel because she can play at the 1 or the 2. I also love a redemption story. All other criticism aside Shoni has the best deep range shot and maybe the best handle on the team.


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And she represents NYL in the All-Star game in Seattle, where she'll draw a crowd



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And she represents NYL in the All-Star game in Seattle, where she'll draw a crowd


I discussed this earlier in the thread...this is not a good thing IF Shoni is in P12...if she's regular rotation and at least getting mins and producing points I think the popularity contest thing can be let go (its not like she was pandering it) but if shes where she was last year...in P12 and gets in over say Prince when prince is having a great year or demotes Charles to reserve...its silly not to think that that wouldn't cause friction we just don't need when we're aiming for a title

Worse...we're educated fans...we know mostly why and why not a player hits or sits...you got casual and just dumb fans who then will rail on why shoni isn't playing even if she isn't producing when she's on the floor...why create your own distraction

This is why I say she's gotta beat out Boyd and Allen for that #2 which is more like 1A to me PG position behind Prince (or move to 2 and beat good enough to back up Rodgers and keep Prince at the 1.

She has a shot but this is a factor...this was one reason she was run in Atlanta was her getting the undeserved honors...last year we got a pass as no ASG in Olympic years...this year we must take that into consideration. Especially with the possibility of 2 legit all stars coming out of this lineup.



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Megdal's unnamed sources have spotted Shoni working out with the Navy Seals. She's expected to show up on Sunday looking really buff. If she fails to make the Liberty, she will instead join Seal Team 6.



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Liberty can always trade Shoni. Teams like Dallas, Seattle & Phoenix would all see a boost in ticket sales & merchandise.



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PostPosted: 04/21/17 11:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Liberty can always trade Shoni. Teams like Dallas, Seattle & Phoenix would all see a boost in ticket sales & merchandise.


Dream could get the Liberty's second round pick last year (which turned out to be Clarendon). Hard to see her getting anything better than that now.


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PostPosted: 04/21/17 12:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Liberty can always trade Shoni. Teams like Dallas, Seattle & Phoenix would all see a boost in ticket sales & merchandise.


I dunno about PHX or DAL, but I've aways thought it was strange that SEA never seemed interested. Their second round pick was worth more (might have to double check that) than NYL's, and yet she ends up landing in New York.
Boucek even has a nutritionist on staff, and they have worked wonders with KML (little sarcasm there).



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PostPosted: 04/21/17 12:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Liberty Name Weatherspoon Director Of Franchise Development

http://www.wnba.com/news/liberty-name-weatherspoon-director-franchise-development/

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Liberty Team President Isiah Thomas announced today, that former WNBA legend Teresa Weatherspoon has been named Director of Franchise Development. In addition to this new appointment, she will continue to serve as the team’s Director of Player Development, a role she has held since 2015.

Weatherspoon joins former Liberty player Swin Cash as a Director of Franchise Development, providing New York with two of the WNBA’s Top-20 Greatest and Most Influential Players of all-time weighing in on business and basketball operations.



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Do they really need two Directors of Franchise Development? I wonder how Swin feels about this.


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Do they really need two Directors of Franchise Development? I wonder how Swin feels about this.


I am guessing that this is a precursor to another move. Swin gets a higher title? Swin takes a leave from MSG? Swin has found a better job elsewhere? I'll be very surprised if the two of them keep the exact same title for long.



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jmvcity wrote:
Do they really need two Directors of Franchise Development? I wonder how Swin feels about this.


I am guessing that this is a precursor to another move. Swin gets a higher title? Swin takes a leave from MSG? Swin has found a better job elsewhere? I'll be very surprised if the two of them keep the exact same title for long.


Given that Swin is now pregnant, that probably brings some unexpected limitations. Also, T-Spoon is usually involved whenever they do sales events to bring in new STHs or get old ones to renew. She's a really good pitchwoman because she is so enthusiastic. This may simply be an acknowledgment of her previously unofficial contributions in that area.



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Tina doing good works:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/wnba-star-tina-charles-visits-4-ny-schools-064554325--wnba.html?src=rss

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The New York Liberty forward was spending Wednesday and Thursday at four local schools helping educate kids about CPR, nutrition and concussions as part of Hopey's Heart week.



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I also think Lindsay Allen is a lock for a spot unless she reslly struggles in camp. A pass-first PG with athleticism is generally a very good backup and can probably acclimate to the pro game quickly. Burdick and Nayo fight it out for the last spot. I like both players. Burdick is an overachiever with some quickness near the basket. She can face up from shorter distances but doesn't have shooting range. Nayo seemed to have some versatility as far as floor game from the admittedly little that I saw. Either might be a hybrid forward but you have to admit if we are talking about a 12th player being a depth player at our position of weakness, it means we need more at that position.

I hope if Allen is indeed hurt it's nothing serious enough to prevent her from being able to play in May. On the plus side with our depth, if you guys remember last year when Wright got hurt, Zellous became our backup PG. At such an important position, I'm glad they shored that up with ample depth and players with a variety of skill sets. They've done an outstanding job in that area this year.



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Regarding Bec, MSG usually provides some sound early in camp so it's likely we will get some info by Monday or Tuesday.



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PostPosted: 04/22/17 11:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just saw this on the Liberty's Facebook page: New York has signed center Renee Bennett of Ball State to a training camp contract.



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PostPosted: 04/22/17 11:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Just saw this on the Liberty's Facebook page: New York has signed center Renee Bennett of Ball State to a training camp contract.


Honestly, I never heard of her but it looks like she's another 6-5 center. This one at least put up some numbers -- 17.5 ppg, 8.1 rpg, just under 1 bpg -- albeit against mid-major competition.



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Actually, I take that back. I watched a bunch of Ball State games last year while following Natalie Fontaine. I do remember a 6-5 center who had some decent offensive skills. I just didn't remember her name was Renee Bennett.



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Just another big to battle in training camp.



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So, I count 21 players. Assuming that Stokes, Zellous, Prince, Zahui, and Vaughn are overseas, that leaves 16 -- one over the limit. I wonder who isn't officially in camp. Will Tina be lurking around as an observer? Did someone change their mind or get cut already?



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So, I count 21 players. Assuming that Stokes, Zellous, Prince, Zahui, and Vaughn are overseas, that leaves 16 -- one over the limit. I wonder who isn't officially in camp. Will Tina be lurking around as an observer? Did someone change their mind or get cut already?


Please forgive my ignorance and enlighten me. Am I understanding correctly that a team can only have a maximum of 15 players at training camp? Does that mean that if one of the five who are overseas comes back on Day X that someone has to go? Many thanks.



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Bob Lamm wrote:
root_thing wrote:
So, I count 21 players. Assuming that Stokes, Zellous, Prince, Zahui, and Vaughn are overseas, that leaves 16 -- one over the limit. I wonder who isn't officially in camp. Will Tina be lurking around as an observer? Did someone change their mind or get cut already?


Please forgive my ignorance and enlighten me. Am I understanding correctly that a team can only have a maximum of 15 players at training camp? Does that mean that if one of the five who are overseas comes back on Day X that someone has to go? Many thanks.


That's correct. The day a player arrives into camp, someone needs to be cut.



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How does an injured player fit into the limit of 15? If Allen is not ready to go just yet.



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I also think Lindsay Allen is a lock for a spot unless she reslly struggles in camp. A pass-first PG with athleticism is generally a very good backup and can probably acclimate to the pro game quickly. Burdick and Nayo fight it out for the last spot. I like both players. Burdick is an overachiever with some quickness near the basket. She can face up from shorter distances but doesn't have shooting range. Nayo seemed to have some versatility as far as floor game from the admittedly little that I saw. Either might be a hybrid forward but you have to admit if we are talking about a 12th player being a depth player at our position of weakness, it means we need more at that position.

I hope if Allen is indeed hurt it's nothing serious enough to prevent her from being able to play in May. On the plus side with our depth, if you guys remember last year when Wright got hurt, Zellous became our backup PG. At such an important position, I'm glad they shored that up with ample depth and players with a variety of skill sets. They've done an outstanding job in that area this year.


Oh I forgot Barbee. I wonder if she'll be a factor.



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