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PostPosted: 04/07/17 11:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Bleacher Report Mock Draft
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2702178-2017-wnba-mock-draft-analyzing-elite-prospects-and-hidden-gems



There's a lot of analysis at the link.

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The Chicago Sky need help in the backcourt, so Shatori Walker-Kimbrough is a logical target.

"She's hungry, and she wants to be great at as many things as she can be great at," her head coach at Maryland, Brenda Frese, told Mechelle Voepel of ESPNW.com. "You can be really direct with her, and she's always up for the challenge."


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Dallas Wings could use a rim-protector and an off-guard, so the South Carolina pair of Alaina Coates and Allisha Gray would help fill out the roster.


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And then there is the No. 6 pick for the Washington Mystics. The team will have the opportunity to select one of the more unique players in this year's draft: Chantel Osahor, Washington's sidekick for Plum this past season.

She led the nation with 15.3 rebounds per game, supplementing that with 15.7 points per contest. She rocketed up draft boards this season, and her unique ability to dominate on the boards and drain shots from beyond the arc make her one of the most intriguing players in this year's draft.


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In the wrong system, Osahor could be a bust. In Washington, she can come off the bench behind Elena Delle Donne and Emma Meesseman, also excellent perimeter shooters from their frontcourt positions. She may not have as big of a role as some of her fellow rookies next season, but she should immediately be a valuable option coming off the bench.


Sounds like I wrote this article.


The thing that bothers me the most about this mock.... no Kaela Davis in first round? Huh? Shocked Kinda hurts credibility



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Bleacher report is just trolling at this point...

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Dallas Wings could use a rim-protector and an off-guard, so the South Carolina pair of Alaina Coates and Allisha Gray would help fill out the roster


...but has Dallas taking 3 centers in the 1st rd.

Osahor going 6th is too high and not the best fit for washington.EDD,Meeseman,Latta,Osahor etc....would be a terrible defensive basketball team

S.Wiese going 8th

Sparks selecting Peterson when they already have Sims.Gray & williams.

And no Davis in the 1st rd


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Bleacher report is just trolling at this point...

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Dallas Wings could use a rim-protector and an off-guard, so the South Carolina pair of Alaina Coates and Allisha Gray would help fill out the roster


...but has Dallas taking 3 centers in the 1st rd.

Osahor going 6th is too high and not the best fit for washington.EDD,Meeseman,Latta,Osahor etc....would be a terrible defensive basketball team

S.Wiese going 8th

Sparks selecting Peterson when they already have Sims.Gray & williams.

And no Davis in the 1st rd


Yeah i kind of giggled when i saw this , Bleacher report losing its credibility . I never paid it any mind til swin mentioned it on twitter a few weeks ago.



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PostPosted: 04/07/17 1:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

This whole Osahor to Mystics thing keeps coming back like a bad penny, I suspect all from one source, much like Megdal(or was it Shades) first championed the Osahor to Lynx idea which gained some traction for a while. Especially odd considering her last game (against a player with an WNBA body, if not anywhere near WNBA in skills) was not confidence inspiring. And she wasn't invited to the party. I'm just not buying it.


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...a baker's dozen, of sorts, from Newsday, of all places:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/women-s-sports/wnba-mock-draft-2017-1.13377624

(Peterson to Sky @ #2?)



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This is their rationale for Peterson at #2

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The Sky traded franchise star and leading scorer Elena Delle Donne to the Mystics in the offseason. Peterson arguably is the second best offensive player in the draft after averaging 23.4 points per game as a senior.


Pretty elementary stuff. Never mind that they already have two PG's that they're probably happy with (new coach so you never know). She's kinda short for playing off the ball, but you could point to Latta. But #2 seems high for both Latta or Peterson.



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PostPosted: 04/07/17 2:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
...a baker's dozen, of sorts, from Newsday, of all places:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/women-s-sports/wnba-mock-draft-2017-1.13377624

(Peterson to Sky @ #2?)


They have Wiese going 6th,B.Jones going #3,and Osahor going 10th to Dallas.Says Osahor will likely be a power forward in the wnba.

Paris,B,Jones and Osahor all on the same team



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I did mention the offer probably would be extended to three teams which include the Chicago Sky. The Mystics could trade the #6 pick Plus 2 of three or all three (Cloud, Malott and/or Ruffin-Pratt) for the #2 pick.


If it's that easy to trade for the #2, why didn't SEA trade for the #2 when it looked like Plum could go #2? Bird and SEA faithful love Plum. Instead they traded #6 for a head-scratching Swords.


Well, the situation has changed, DeShields and Mitchell didn't enter the draft, the Sky aren't looking for a post player at the #2 pick, the Sky likely can draft the same or similar player at #6 plus get a player or players from the Mystics. The Sky's GM/Coach Amber Stocks is already familiar with whom she might can get from the Mystics since she did make a deal two months ago with Thibault.


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South Carolina players could provide much-needed help for Wings

http://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/19100669/south-carolina-gamecocks-alaina-coates-allisha-gray-kaela-davis-provide-much-needed-help-dallas-wings

A Voepel production

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"It's fair to say we're definitely evaluating all of them," Wings coach Fred Williams said of the South Carolina prospects. "Everybody knows we need a stretch 5 player who can be mobile, rebound and run the floor. That is something we're going to look for strongly."


Need a stretch 5? Then why'd they give up Zahui?

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That's why Coates appears a good choice for Dallas. At 6-foot-4, with a big body and rebounding ability, she shot 67 percent this season from the floor, and 62 percent for her college career. It's unknown when Coates, who averaged 12.9 points and 10.7 rebounds in 28 games as a senior, will be ready to play. But that likely won't affect her draft status that much.


Thank you, Dr Voepel

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"We're looking at players who are really pro-ready to come in and really help us right away," Williams said.


I'd say Davis is a little more pro-ready because of her size and her long bomb three. But I think she needs a boost of confidence, and I'm not sure Dallas is the best place for that, sorry to say.

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It's a gamble to give up Sims for the uncertainty of what Dallas may get at No. 4, but Wings general manager Greg Bibb said there was a need to "change the dynamic with our roster."


Sounds like someone who didn't want to give a detailed answer to why they traded Sims.

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The organization still holds [Cambage's] WNBA rights, and Williams said he believes someday she will play in the league again. But nobody is holding their breath.


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Powers underwent hip surgery in November, though, and is still getting back to full strength and mobility.


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"I think the identity we want is being relentless," Williams said. "The defensive side of things is going to have to kick in this year. There's good chemistry with the players we have right now, and I think that will continue to help us grow."


Nice article. Answered a few questions about the team.



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Love the comment about Cambage. Sounds like he'd be happy if she showed up for a few games in 2019.



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"It's fair to say we're definitely evaluating all of them," Wings coach Fred Williams said of the South Carolina prospects. "Everybody knows we need a stretch 5 player who can be mobile, rebound and run the floor. That is something we're going to look for strongly


Sounds more like McCall than Coates.I've never seen Coates hit a shot outside of 12 feet.

Or maybe a trade for Dolson ?....Christmas or #4 for Dolson


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"It's fair to say we're definitely evaluating all of them," Wings coach Fred Williams said of the South Carolina prospects. "Everybody knows we need a stretch 5 player who can be mobile, rebound and run the floor. That is something we're going to look for strongly


Sounds more like McCall than Coates.I've never seen Coates hit a shot outside of 12 feet.

Or maybe a trade for Dolson ?....Christmas or #4 for Dolson


McCall going #4 over Coates is laughable.



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"It's fair to say we're definitely evaluating all of them," Wings coach Fred Williams said of the South Carolina prospects. "Everybody knows we need a stretch 5 player who can be mobile, rebound and run the floor. That is something we're going to look for strongly


Sounds more like McCall than Coates.I've never seen Coates hit a shot outside of 12 feet.

Or maybe a trade for Dolson ?....Christmas or #4 for Dolson


McCall going #4 over Coates is laughable.


Never said McCall will go 4th.If you look at my earlier post,I have dallas selecting McCall with the #10 pick.I was just pointing out that coach Williams' player description sounds more like McCall than Coates.

zune69 wrote:
I'm starting to believe Dallas will take McCall at #10,and I wouldn't be upset.McCall is very active and mobile for her size.She plays with great enthusiasm,and has the ability to be a combo pf/c.

#3-Davis/Gray/Jones
#4-Coates
#10-McCall


See.....Coates 4th,and McCall 10#


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PostPosted: 04/07/17 5:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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WNBA 09 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
I believe the Mystics are willing to trade up or down from #6.


How much further can they go up ? they traded away #2 ? So that means either Dealing with Dallas or SAN for Picks 3-5 ? But for whom might they have on the block for discussion Guru ???? Question


Don't get me wrong. I believe it will be easier to move down and maybe draft McCall then move up and draft either Brionna Jones or Coates but if the Mystics were to move up the player(s) will probably come out the pool of Cloud, Ruffin-Pratt and/or Malott Plus the #6 pick, this offer would be extended to all three teams holding selections 2 thru 5.


This is nowhere close to how most Mystics fans are thinking about this draft. With only FOUR guards on the roster, it's crystal clear to (almost) everyone that the Styx need to pick up a quality guard. If they move DOWN in the draft, it will to get a veteran GUARD. Neither Cloud nor Ruffin-Pratt are going anywhere until/unless some other guards/wings on board that bring the defense and glue of those two.



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PostPosted: 04/07/17 5:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

readyAIMfire53 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
I believe the Mystics are willing to trade up or down from #6.


How much further can they go up ? they traded away #2 ? So that means either Dealing with Dallas or SAN for Picks 3-5 ? But for whom might they have on the block for discussion Guru ???? Question


Don't get me wrong. I believe it will be easier to move down and maybe draft McCall then move up and draft either Brionna Jones or Coates but if the Mystics were to move up the player(s) will probably come out the pool of Cloud, Ruffin-Pratt and/or Malott Plus the #6 pick, this offer would be extended to all three teams holding selections 2 thru 5.


This is nowhere close to how most Mystics fans are thinking about this draft. With only FOUR guards on the roster, it's crystal clear to (almost) everyone that the Styx need to pick up a quality guard. If they move DOWN in the draft, it will to get a veteran GUARD. Neither Cloud nor Ruffin-Pratt are going anywhere until/unless some other guards/wings on board that bring the defense and glue of those two.


Original STH and longtime Mystics fan before you came over with Alana Beard so please don't come with that stuff about you knowing how most Mystics fans feel.


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"It's fair to say we're definitely evaluating all of them," Wings coach Fred Williams said of the South Carolina prospects. "Everybody knows we need a stretch 5 player who can be mobile, rebound and run the floor. That is something we're going to look for strongly."


Need a stretch 5? Then why'd they give up Zahui?


Because she's not actually a stretch 5?

And there are no such players in this draft, unless they want to pick Osahor and have the worst center tandem in the league at defending ball screens. Plaisance is more of a stretch 5 than anyone in this class, except she's not really good at anything else so that's a problem.



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PostPosted: 04/07/17 6:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
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"It's fair to say we're definitely evaluating all of them," Wings coach Fred Williams said of the South Carolina prospects. "Everybody knows we need a stretch 5 player who can be mobile, rebound and run the floor. That is something we're going to look for strongly."


Need a stretch 5? Then why'd they give up Zahui?


Because she's not actually a stretch 5?

And there are no such players in this draft, unless they want to pick Osahor and have the worst center tandem in the league at defending ball screens. Plaisance is more of a stretch 5 than anyone in this class, except she's not really good at anything else so that's a problem.


In his dreams. How many 5's do you know that meet that criteria? Laughing If he said 4, it would be more understandable. This is just a pipe dream.



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Ashley Morrissette, anyone?

https://spark.adobe.com/page/lx6WKLpw1GYBg/



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Here's an article that forgot about Alexis Jones

Two Lady Bears, possible WNBA draft picks

http://www.mycentx.com/news/local/two-lady-bears-possible-wnba-draft-picks/688815116


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"My favorite team was always L.A. Sparks growing up but they are pretty loaded, and they are the champs, so I know they probably don't need me but umm, it's just my dream team. As far as overseas I'm still on the fence about it," said Nina Davis.


She could be available at #11

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"I just honestly, just whoever calls me, I'm ready to play for whoever," said Prince.


Even the Liberty? Then you truly are ready to play for anybody Wink



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myrtle wrote:
sigur3 wrote:
Shades wrote:

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"It's fair to say we're definitely evaluating all of them," Wings coach Fred Williams said of the South Carolina prospects. "Everybody knows we need a stretch 5 player who can be mobile, rebound and run the floor. That is something we're going to look for strongly."


Need a stretch 5? Then why'd they give up Zahui?


Because she's not actually a stretch 5?

And there are no such players in this draft, unless they want to pick Osahor and have the worst center tandem in the league at defending ball screens. Plaisance is more of a stretch 5 than anyone in this class, except she's not really good at anything else so that's a problem.


In his dreams. How many 5's do you know that meet that criteria? Laughing If he said 4, it would be more understandable. This is just a pipe dream.


I think Fred is describing both players actually. I have Dallas selecting #3 SWK/Davis, #4 Coates, #10 McCall



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Curious to see if Dallas takes two players from Maryland or two players from South Carolina among its three first-round selections. Given the short WNBA preseason and players overseas in the offseason, having two players who have built-in chemistry and familiarity with one another's game would seem to help a great deal.


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Breanna Stewart will be a WNBA friend and foe for Syracuse's Brittney Sykes

http://www.syracuse.com/orangewomen/index.ssf/2017/04/breanna_stewart_will_be_a_wnba_friend_and_foe_for_syracuses_brittney_sykes.html

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"[Breanna Stewart]'s already saying when I come to Seattle, whatever team I may go to, that I have to come to her condo. So it will be fun to go there,'' Sykes said earlier this week.


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It's likely that [Sykes] will hear her name called in the first round.


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They've known each other since their high school days, when Stewart was coming out of Cicero-North Syracuse and Sykes was emerging from Newark.


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Sykes said she and Stewart talk or text all the time, mostly more about the draft itself and the process of joining the league than about the actual competition ahead.


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If and when they are WNBA foes, though, Sykes is anxious to keep testing herself against the best.



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SportsGuru wrote:
readyAIMfire53 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
I believe the Mystics are willing to trade up or down from #6.


How much further can they go up ? they traded away #2 ? So that means either Dealing with Dallas or SAN for Picks 3-5 ? But for whom might they have on the block for discussion Guru ???? Question


Don't get me wrong. I believe it will be easier to move down and maybe draft McCall then move up and draft either Brionna Jones or Coates but if the Mystics were to move up the player(s) will probably come out the pool of Cloud, Ruffin-Pratt and/or Malott Plus the #6 pick, this offer would be extended to all three teams holding selections 2 thru 5.


This is nowhere close to how most Mystics fans are thinking about this draft. With only FOUR guards on the roster, it's crystal clear to (almost) everyone that the Styx need to pick up a quality guard. If they move DOWN in the draft, it will to get a veteran GUARD. Neither Cloud nor Ruffin-Pratt are going anywhere until/unless some other guards/wings on board that bring the defense and glue of those two.


Original STH and longtime Mystics fan before you came over with Alana Beard so please don't come with that stuff about you knowing how most Mystics fans feel.


I don't give a flying flip how long you've been a Styx fan. Not selecting the best guard available at #6 is sheer stupidity. Most Mystics fans are smart enough to see that, no matter how long they've followed the team.

And, by the way, I've followed the Styx since Trudi Lacey picked a Miller twin over Catchings as GM of the Charlotte Sting. I simply could not continue rooting for a team that was self-destructing. It was my misfortune that after she drove the Sting into oblivion, Trudi came to demolish the Mystics as well.



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And, by the way, I've followed the Styx since Trudi Lacey picked a Miller twin over Catchings as GM of the Charlotte Sting


That was Anne Donovan. Lacey took over the Sting in 2003.



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And, by the way, I've followed the Styx since Trudi Lacey picked a Miller twin over Catchings as GM of the Charlotte Sting


That was Anne Donovan. Lacey took over the Sting in 2003.


In any case, the Sting were the closest team - 2-1/2 hrs away - so that was my team initially. Not after that pick. Right up there with the worst picks ever.



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Here's my last mock. Kinda safe I guess. I think SA is content with the post rotation they have and goes with two guards. The question is who'll be available at #5? Could VJ be the coach to get the most out of K. Davis? Washington is a question mark to me too. I think Coach T wants a guard but I could see him going with Coffey, Wiese or someone out of the blue lol.

1. SA- Plum
2. Chi- Gray
3. Dal- SWK
4. Dal- Coates
5. SA- Davis
6. WAS-  A. Jones (her knees are a question for me. I think WAS wants a guard but I'm sure Coach T will shake up the draft.)
7. ATL- Coffey
8. CONN- B. Jones
9. CHI- Wiese
10. DAL- McCall
11. LA- Prince
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Hard to be critical of that Top 5
#6: I think you have the wrong Basketball Jones. BJones is a true local and fits a need. Guards are plentiful in this draft and free agency
#8: Back-flipping Miller. He'd be getting Kizer and BJones for Little Shocked
#10: Everybody seems to be drinking the McCall Kool-aid for Dallas
#11: This is your team. Another one joining the Prince bandwagon
#12: Unless this is Jim Peterson, no thank you. First pick should be a big



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I highly doubt the Mystics will select a Guard in the 1st rd of the draft this year or any player who played for a school located in Texas. I don't remember the Mystics ever drafting someone who played at a University or College located in Texas.


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I highly doubt the Mystics will select a Guard in the 1st rd of the draft this year or any player who played for a school located in Texas. I don't remember the Mystics ever drafting someone who played at a University or College located in Texas.


The Mystics drafted Bernice Mosby out of Baylor in the 1st round of the 2007 draft and Angela Jackson from the University of Texas in the 4th round of the 1998 draft.



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pilight wrote:
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I highly doubt the Mystics will select a Guard in the 1st rd of the draft this year or any player who played for a school located in Texas. I don't remember the Mystics ever drafting someone who played at a University or College located in Texas.


The Mystics drafted Bernice Mosby out of Baylor in the 1st round of the 2007 draft and Angela Jackson from the University of Texas in the 4th round of the 1998 draft.


Well, I said I couldn't remember. Also, I'm doubling down that Mike Thibault won!t draft Alexis Jones in the 1st round.


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Chicago/San antonio should ponder making a draft day trade...Dolson for the #5 pick & Alexander....Desouza being a veteran and mentor for Dos Santos should not be a deterrent for improving the center positon.Desouza has no real future in san antonio.Dos santos is a backup at best.San Antonio will most likely get a top 3 pick in 2018.So they'll be able to draft a sf/pf(Wilson,Williams,Deshields,Stevens).Chicago gets a good backup center and the best available player at #5.


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Riley seems to like Alexander


It was just a suggestion....Asset management will be very important for san antonio over the next 1-3 years.You don't want to get caught in a situation where you're drafting players at the same position 2 or 3 years in a row.Too many duplicates can destroy the balance of a roster.Leading to players playing out of position, poor floor spacing on offense,and poor defense.


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6: I think you have the Basketball Jones. BJones is a true local and fits a need. Guards are plentiful in this draft and free agency.


I almost had Washington selecting B. Jones @ #6 but then I looked at their guard situation, Latta, Toliver, Hill and Cloud. I would think Coach T would look to add to his guard depth. I could see Washington selecting Coffey, but I'm just not on the B. Jones wagon. She rebounds and runs the floor well but I question her offense and footwork. Most of her points come from put backs and pick & rolls. Will she be able to score at the next level? She won't be able to use her body to overpower her defender like she did in college.


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10: Everybody seems to be drinking the McCall Kool-aid for Dallas


If McCall is still available at #10 why not? I think she'd be an upgrade for Dallas' bench, unless she's already taken.

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This is your team. Another one joining the Prince bandwagon


I wouldn't say bandwagon. I think LA could use help at the SF position and 3pt shooting. Is Prince the best available? IDK. Honestly I don't expect #11 to make the team.

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#12: Unless this is Jim Peterson, no thank you. First pick should be a big


Minnesota could use a F/C, but I'm not sold on Osahor. Maybe a trade? Whalen isn't getting any younger. I think Peterson would be a good fit, she is a capable facilitator and could learn behind Whalen for a few seasons. Like Patty Mills and Tony Parker lol.



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PostPosted: 04/09/17 1:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Chicago/San antonio should ponder making a draft day trade...Dolson for the #5 pick & Alexander....Desouza being a veteran and mentor for Dos Santos should not be a deterrent for improving the center positon.Desouza has no real future in san antonio.Dos santos is a backup at best.San Antonio will most likely get a top 3 pick in 2018.So they'll be able to draft a sf/pf(Wilson,Williams,Deshields,Stevens).Chicago gets a good backup center and the best available player at #5.


I could see both teams making this trade, but I think SA is content with their post rotation of DeSouza, Alexander, Harrison, Dos Santos and Hamby, and Chicago will give Dolson a go at the 4 position. Maybe SA shouldn't be content, but I think they'll add Plum and one of SWK/Davis/Gray. (I think Gray will go second though). Who does Chicago pick at #9? So many questions. I expect a trade or two in the first round. Does anyone know the rules? Are trades announced after the draft?

CHI
Vandersloot/Faulkner
Pondexter/Quigley
Young/Gray/Copper/[Laney]
Dolson/Breland/[Parker]/[Harris]
Boyette/[Ndour]

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Jefferson/Plum
McBride/[SWK/Davis]
Currie/Peters/[Montgomery]/[Hodges]
Harrison/Dos Santos/Hamby
Alexander/DeSouza/[Baugh]



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PostPosted: 04/09/17 9:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yesterday (4/8/17), I heard on SXM NBA Radio Antonio Davis say that because of the weak WNBA Draft this year he advised his daughter Kaela to leave South Carolina and enter the draft.


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PostPosted: 04/09/17 11:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
I was unaware that .530 was in "the mid-60s". If you take out the two games against overmatched mid-majors, she falls back into the 40s. Again compare Alexis Prince, who had a TS% in the mid-50s for the season (much better than Davis) and .532 in the tournament (slightly better than Davis).


On the subject of shooting...

Career TS%

Davis .484
DeShields .496

Single-Season High TS%
Davis .513, 2013-2014
DeShields .516, 2016-2017


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pilight wrote:
I was unaware that .530 was in "the mid-60s". If you take out the two games against overmatched mid-majors, she falls back into the 40s. Again compare Alexis Prince, who had a TS% in the mid-50s for the season (much better than Davis) and .532 in the tournament (slightly better than Davis).


On the subject of shooting...

Career TS%

Davis .484
DeShields .496

Single-Season High TS%
Davis .513, 2013-2014
DeShields .516, 2016-2017


A TS% in the 40's is not good. Katie Frerking from Auburn, who's about the same size as Davis and plays the same position, had a better TS%. Karlie Samuelson, who is only slightly smaller, had a .675 TS%.

Davis was under 40% on 2Pers. That's generally a bad sign for your future as a basketball player.



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PostPosted: 04/09/17 12:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just a note: There is absolutely no reason to draft a player because she has some connection to the area. It has no impact on attendance or coverage beyond the first game and first story.

The only reason to draft a player is to help a team win, because the only proven way to increase attendance is winning.

The classic example is Stephanie White, one of the most popular players ever in Indiana, who was drafted by the Fever. She was a marginal pro and had no effect on attendance or interest. Tamika Catchings, on the other hand, with minimal connection to Indiana, clearly helped the team's attendance and profile.

Finally, it's especially tenuous to think that a player's high school location will generate any ticket sales in the WNBA. Attendance at girls' high school basketball games is dismal, and even if every person who went to a player's high school games bought WNBA tickets, it would be completely irrelevant to the bottom line.



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PostPosted: 04/09/17 3:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink



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stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


I must admit the best two round 2017 WNBA Mock Draft I've seen thus far. The only strong disagreement I have with this mock is McCall lasting until the 16th selection. I doubt the WNBA will invite McCall to the draft having her sit to the 16th selection when she is 1 of 10 invitees.


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PostPosted: 04/09/17 4:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


At San Antonio selecting.Wiese 5th Shocked


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zune69 wrote:
stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


At San Antonio selecting.Wiese 5th Shocked


I don't think it can be ignored that the San Antonio Stars have been loading up on Post Players this off-season, so maybe they aren't going to select a Post Player in the 1st round of this draft.


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PostPosted: 04/09/17 5:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SportsGuru wrote:
zune69 wrote:
stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


At San Antonio selecting.Wiese 5th Shocked


I don't think it can be ignored that the San Antonio Stars have been loading up on Post Players this off-season, so maybe they aren't going to select a Post Player in the 1st round of this draft.


Dos Santos.Alexander and Baugh are all backups.Desouza will be a non factor three years from now.San Antonio should take the best available player at #5.


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PostPosted: 04/09/17 6:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
zune69 wrote:
stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


At San Antonio selecting.Wiese 5th Shocked


I don't think it can be ignored that the San Antonio Stars have been loading up on Post Players this off-season, so maybe they aren't going to select a Post Player in the 1st round of this draft.


Dos Santos.Alexander and Baugh are all backups.Desouza will be a non factor three years from now.San Antonio should take the best available player at #5.


Love the mock, but have to think San Antonio will take SWK or Brionna Jones at #5. If they want a guard SWK is ahead of Wiese defensively and I see her having a longer career in the WNBA.

Jones is a bigger question mark, for reasons others have outlined here before, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them take her there either.


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PostPosted: 04/09/17 6:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PRballer wrote:
zune69 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
zune69 wrote:
stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


At San Antonio selecting.Wiese 5th Shocked


I don't think it can be ignored that the San Antonio Stars have been loading up on Post Players this off-season, so maybe they aren't going to select a Post Player in the 1st round of this draft.


Dos Santos.Alexander and Baugh are all backups.Desouza will be a non factor three years from now.San Antonio should take the best available player at #5.


Love the mock, but have to think San Antonio will take SWK or Brionna Jones at #5. If they want a guard SWK is ahead of Wiese defensively and I see her having a longer career in the WNBA.

Jones is a bigger question mark, for reasons others have outlined here before, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them take her there either.


Seems to me there's no need or reason to take a post that isn't considerably better than the ones you have. Jones doesn't make sense, especially after they brought in so many posts. But, if one thinks Jones is a starter Laughing SWK is a possibility imo. But, she too, has limitations just like everyone in the class.


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PostPosted: 04/10/17 8:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Former Freeland, MSU star Tori Jankoska anxious to make WNBA history

http://www.mlive.com/sports/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/04/former_freeland_msu_star_tori.html

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On Thursday night, Jankoska is expected to become the first Saginaw County basketball player taken in the WNBA Draft.


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"I think we're looking probably late first, early second round for her," ESPN analyst Rebecca Lobo said. "Teams are always looking for a tough player who can shoot the basketball, and Tori definitely fits that bill. You know, she's a hard worker who has gotten better very year in college. Teams are always looking for that type of player who can stretch the defense coming in off the bench and providing some toughness and scoring. Her game will immediately provide that."



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PostPosted: 04/10/17 10:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


Good draft, but I think Davis will be taken #2 by the sky
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote:
stever wrote:
Best mock draft I've seen:

https://www.fanragsports.com/womens/2017-wnba-mock-draft/

...this Nemchock kid has tremendous upside potential! Wink


Good draft, but I think Davis will be taken #2 by the sky


That wouldnt be such a bad idea. I would say she could be mentor'ed by the likes of Cappie , but then i think about it and that would be a TERRIBLE idea Rolling Eyes



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