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cthskzfn
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cthskzfn
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Posted: 03/27/17 11:39 am ::: |
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Only 5 players on the first 3 teams are still playing.
If UConn loses tonight, the number will be 2.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/27/17 11:47 am ::: |
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Gabby Williams on second team. Ouch. I think she's the most irreplaceable on the team.
I suppose Mitchell on second team gives her more motivation to come back...or is it discouraging? Did she give it her all this year, or is she a victim of the system?
Glenn will be happy to notice that Jankoska got an honorable mention.
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cthskzfn
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 12851 Location: In a world where a PSYCHOpath like Trump isn't potus.
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Posted: 03/27/17 12:10 pm ::: |
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No DD anywhere....
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 03/27/17 12:20 pm ::: |
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No Nina Davis.
I think the voting order is interesting:
First Team
Kelsey Plum (33 first-place votes, 165 points)
A'ja Wilson (27, 153)
Katie Lou Samuelson (23, 138)
Napheesa Collier (21, 132)
Brionna Jones, Maryland (17, 126)
Second Team
Kelsey Mitchell (13, 107)
Brianna Turner (8, 96)
Gabby Williams (8, 87)
Chantel Osahor (4, 59)
Alexis Peterson (3, 58)
Third Team
Sydney Wiese (1, 56)
Lindsay Allen (4, 54)
Shatori Walker-Kimbrough (0, 52)
Lexie Brown, Duke (0, 40)
Victoria Vivians (1, 34)
There's a clear 19 point gap between Jones on the first team and Mitchell on the second. Then there's a huge 28 point gap between Willams and Osahor. |
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FrozenLVFan
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Posted: 03/27/17 12:31 pm ::: |
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cthskzfn wrote: |
No DD anywhere.... |
As it should be, but I think Jaime Nared deserved an honorable mention.
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ucbart
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 2830 Location: New York
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Posted: 03/27/17 1:16 pm ::: |
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FrozenLVFan wrote: |
cthskzfn wrote: |
No DD anywhere.... |
As it should be, but I think Jaime Nared deserved an honorable mention. |
I did too, especially since someone gave Russell a vote.
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zune69
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Posted: 03/27/17 2:24 pm ::: |
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How does Diamond not get a honorable mention at the very least ? Deshields put up respectable numbers,and helped her team beat 4 elite eight basketball teams plus Kentucky.Possibly 3 final four teams.
Wins over:
#10 Stanford
#17 Kentucky
#6 Notre Dame
#4 South Carolina
#3 MSST
These are some quality wins,and Diamond was a big factor in the outcome of these games.People also forget that tennessee lost two starters before the season started.Tennessee's on court problems pre-existed Diamond's arrival from UNC.
Deshields stats:
17.4p/6.4r/3.8a/1.4s/1.0b/42%/79%/33%
Vivians:
16.3p/4.2r/1.5a/1.4s/0.2b/37%/76%/28%
Like really,you're going to tell me Vivians deserved the all-american nod over Deshields ?
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#Occasionalwnbafan
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Posted: 03/27/17 2:51 pm ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
How does Diamond not get a honorable mention at the very least ? Deshields put up respectable numbers,and helped her team beat 4 elite eight basketball teams plus Kentucky.Possibly 3 final four teams.
Wins over:
#10 Stanford
#17 Kentucky
#6 Notre Dame
#4 South Carolina
#3 MSST
These are some quality wins,and Diamond was a big factor in the outcome of these games.People also forget that tennessee lost two starters before the season started.Tennessee's on court problems pre-existed Diamond's arrival from UNC.
Deshields stats:
17.4p/6.4r/3.8a/1.4s/1.0b/42%/79%/33%
Vivians:
16.3p/4.2r/1.5a/1.4s/0.2b/37%/76%/28%
Like really,you're going to tell me Vivians deserved the all-american nod over Deshields ? |
I agree I'm not sure why DD gets so much hate around the internet, I think it started with Uconn fans and went from there. |
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zune69
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Posted: 03/27/17 3:12 pm ::: |
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
How does Diamond not get a honorable mention at the very least ? Deshields put up respectable numbers,and helped her team beat 4 elite eight basketball teams plus Kentucky.Possibly 3 final four teams.
Wins over:
#10 Stanford
#17 Kentucky
#6 Notre Dame
#4 South Carolina
#3 MSST
These are some quality wins,and Diamond was a big factor in the outcome of these games.People also forget that tennessee lost two starters before the season started.Tennessee's on court problems pre-existed Diamond's arrival from UNC.
Deshields stats:
17.4p/6.4r/3.8a/1.4s/1.0b/42%/79%/33%
Vivians:
16.3p/4.2r/1.5a/1.4s/0.2b/37%/76%/28%
Like really,you're going to tell me Vivians deserved the all-american nod over Deshields ? |
I agree I'm not sure why DD gets so much hate around the internet, I think it started with Uconn fans and went from there. |
Unfortunately some people let their emotions and personal feelings influence their decisions.I can understand putting Vivians on because her team made the final four.But damn,not even an honorable mention ?
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WNBA 09
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Posts: 12647 Location: Dallas , Texas
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Posted: 03/27/17 3:21 pm ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
How does Diamond not get a honorable mention at the very least ? Deshields put up respectable numbers,and helped her team beat 4 elite eight basketball teams plus Kentucky.Possibly 3 final four teams.
Wins over:
#10 Stanford
#17 Kentucky
#6 Notre Dame
#4 South Carolina
#3 MSST
These are some quality wins,and Diamond was a big factor in the outcome of these games.People also forget that tennessee lost two starters before the season started.Tennessee's on court problems pre-existed Diamond's arrival from UNC.
Deshields stats:
17.4p/6.4r/3.8a/1.4s/1.0b/42%/79%/33%
Vivians:
16.3p/4.2r/1.5a/1.4s/0.2b/37%/76%/28%
Like really,you're going to tell me Vivians deserved the all-american nod over Deshields ? |
I agree I'm not sure why DD gets so much hate around the internet, I think it started with Uconn fans and went from there. |
Unfortunately some people let their emotions and personal feelings influence their decisions.I can understand putting Vivians on because her team made the final four.But damn,not even an honorable mention ? |
The shade was real . Not taking anything away from V.Vivians but no way shes one of the Top 15 players in the country . Heck shes not even Top 2 on her team .VERY OVERRATED
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5thmantheme
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Posted: 03/27/17 4:40 pm ::: |
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the baseball Sabremetrics guys maybe 3 decades ago, started asking the question about what made the Voters for these allstar teams, more swayed or starry-eyed.
Personal quibble, who would Collier guard of APete and KMitchell ?
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SDHoops
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Posted: 03/28/17 2:32 pm ::: |
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It's getting old Lady Vols fans...first it was CP3 conspiracy now it's DD-Gate. Time has passed you all by and you aren't the big dawgs in terms of multiple Olympians, multiple All-Americans, etc. Excusing poor behavior from your Divas over the years doesn't help any
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Shades
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Posted: 03/28/17 2:35 pm ::: |
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Isn't a list on how they voted a part of the public record for the AP?
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Fighting Artichoke
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Posted: 03/28/17 3:22 pm ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
How does Diamond not get a honorable mention at the very least ? Deshields put up respectable numbers,and helped her team beat 4 elite eight basketball teams plus Kentucky.Possibly 3 final four teams.
Wins over:
#10 Stanford
#17 Kentucky
#6 Notre Dame
#4 South Carolina
#3 MSST
These are some quality wins,and Diamond was a big factor in the outcome of these games.People also forget that tennessee lost two starters before the season started.Tennessee's on court problems pre-existed Diamond's arrival from UNC.
Deshields stats:
17.4p/6.4r/3.8a/1.4s/1.0b/42%/79%/33%
Vivians:
16.3p/4.2r/1.5a/1.4s/0.2b/37%/76%/28%
Like really,you're going to tell me Vivians deserved the all-american nod over Deshields ? |
Honestly, I wouldn't have had either Vivians or DeShields in my top 15 players for this past season. You list Diamond's good stats, but didn't she have a lot of turnovers? I believe that she is certainly in the top 15 players in terms of talent, but I think she struggles to translate that talent into performance on the court. And I think Vivians shoots too much. Isn't 37% from the field very low for a F?
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WNBA 09
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Posted: 03/28/17 3:32 pm ::: |
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SDHoops wrote: |
It's getting old Lady Vols fans...first it was CP3 conspiracy now it's DD-Gate. Time has passed you all by and you aren't the big dawgs in terms of multiple Olympians, multiple All-Americans, etc. Excusing poor behavior from your Divas over the years doesn't help any |
The only conspiracy i can remember with CP3 was how she won 2 titles and maybe 3 if she would not have been hurt freshmen yr. #Gwinnin
The DD-Gate would not be relevant if she was not the internet's most hated .
_________________ 3-Time WNBA Champion-3-Time National Champion-4-Time Olympic Champion....And Yes DT "We Got Confeti" lol
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linkster
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Posted: 03/28/17 5:03 pm ::: |
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#Occasionalwnbafan wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
How does Diamond not get a honorable mention at the very least ? Deshields put up respectable numbers,and helped her team beat 4 elite eight basketball teams plus Kentucky.Possibly 3 final four teams.
Wins over:
#10 Stanford
#17 Kentucky
#6 Notre Dame
#4 South Carolina
#3 MSST
These are some quality wins,and Diamond was a big factor in the outcome of these games.People also forget that tennessee lost two starters before the season started.Tennessee's on court problems pre-existed Diamond's arrival from UNC.
Deshields stats:
17.4p/6.4r/3.8a/1.4s/1.0b/42%/79%/33%
Vivians:
16.3p/4.2r/1.5a/1.4s/0.2b/37%/76%/28%
Like really,you're going to tell me Vivians deserved the all-american nod over Deshields ? |
I agree I'm not sure why DD gets so much hate around the internet, I think it started with Uconn fans and went from there. |
I'm not sure what you mean? DeShields has had more feature articles written about her in the last 4 years on the ESPN site than most any other player in wcbb despite the fact that she has never been a prolific scorer, an efficient scorer, accomplished defender or a winner. There's no denying that she plays with style. Her flashy moves are among the best. But other than a great shot from 10-15 feet that she can create on her own, what about her game has improved since she left high school? She still is a poor 3 pt shooter, I've never seen her post up anyone and her defense and rebounding have been average. I have no doubt that she will be a high draft pick and if she can stay healthy will have a pro career. Her ability to create and her open court skills will translate well in the W.
As to why she didn't get hardly any votes I'm only guessing but maybe it has something to do with unfulfilled expectations. The more people expect of you, the more their disappointment when you fail to achieve. A lot like how many LV fans want Holly replaced because she hasn't gotten to a FF.
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FrozenLVFan
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Posted: 03/28/17 5:50 pm ::: |
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Good summary.
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5thmantheme
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Posted: 03/29/17 3:41 pm ::: |
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Those 4 singleton 1st place votes (Brown Epps Vivians Wiese) are a little sketchy too. Means 1 of the first team has to drop, and maybe all the 2nd teamers.
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