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PostPosted: 03/15/17 9:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

lynxmania wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/2017-wnba-draft-order/

So much information. Laughing


And they forgot that SAS now has #5, not PHX.



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PostPosted: 03/15/17 9:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/2017-wnba-draft-order/

So much information. Laughing


And they forgot that SAS now has #5, not PHX.


It wouldn't be a WNBA article if there wasn't a mistake, right? Laughing


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2018 first round mock (Too Early) This is mostly just for fun based on a discussion in Liberty thread about why you don't trade your first round pick, or a psychic vision (And yeah I only have Deshields declaring early in 17)

1. SA A. Wilson
2. Atl B. Turner
3. Indy K. Mitchell
4. Conn G. Williams
5. PX A. Gray
6. Dallas M. Russell
7. Chicago V. Vivians
8. Washington L. Brown
9. Seattle J. Canada
10. NY S. Mavunga
11. Minn J. Nared
12. LA M. Billings

And that leaves Davis, Nurse, Hines-Allen, M. Moore, Greenwell, Scaife, McCarty, Harper all in the 2nd round


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J-Spoon wrote:
2018 first round mock (Too Early) This is mostly just for fun based on a discussion in Liberty thread about why you don't trade your first round pick, or a psychic vision (And yeah I only have Deshields declaring early in 17)

1. SA A. Wilson
2. Atl B. Turner
3. Indy K. Mitchell
4. Conn G. Williams
5. PX A. Gray
6. Dallas M. Russell
7. Chicago V. Vivians
8. Washington L. Brown
9. Seattle J. Canada
10. NY S. Mavunga
11. Minn J. Nared
12. LA M. Billings

And that leaves Davis, Nurse, Hines-Allen, M. Moore, Greenwell, Scaife, McCarty, Harper all in the 2nd round


No Shakayla Thomas ?



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PostPosted: 03/16/17 9:54 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So why is the 2018 draft going to be that much deeper than the 2017 draft? It seems fairly normal to me, with three or four pretty much sure-fire players (though no superstars except Mitchell) and then a dropoff to a list of players who could become pretty good -- and of course some of them will.

But, just to take one, Jordin Canada is not a good shooter, and given her height and build, if she's going in the number nine range, how is that draft pick worth much more than this year's, say.

Canada's a good player, no question, but I don't see her as a guaranteed WNBA starter at the point.



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PostPosted: 03/16/17 10:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
So why is the 2018 draft going to be that much deeper than the 2017 draft? It seems fairly normal to me, with three or four pretty much sure-fire players (though no superstars except Mitchell) and then a dropoff to a list of players who could become pretty good -- and of course some of them will.

But, just to take one, Jordin Canada is not a good shooter, and given her height and build, if she's going in the number nine range, how is that draft pick worth much more than this year's, say.

Canada's a good player, no question, but I don't see her as a guaranteed WNBA starter at the point.



I can see her starting at point for a team at the next level . She has the type of skillset that fits most W talent level players . I sometimes catch myself thinking if she were on a team with more talented players she would get more pub . Put 4 great athletes with her and she can make her presence felt. I do agree the shooting does need to improve for her



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PostPosted: 03/16/17 2:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

10 Best 2017 WNBA Draft Prospects in the NCAA Tournament

http://www.herosports.com/ncaa-tournament/best-2017-wnba-draft-prospects-blbl

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The ten players on this list are among the most intriguing players in the women's tournament.



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Lindsay Allen, G - Notre Dame

If a team needs a player to calm things down, be smart with the ball and provide strong defense at the top, well Allen may be a smart pick.



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Alaina Coates, F/C - South Carolina

There is no doubt Coates is one of the pre-eminent posts in the country, and for a top national contender no less.



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Nia Coffey, F - Northwestern

This do-everything player for the Wildcats has had a career to envy. Nia Coffey can do it inside and out, plays with immense physicality and her toughness is unquestionable.



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Diamond DeShields, F/G - Tennessee

This one is a little tricky.

Currently a redshirt-junior, DeShields could declare for the draft once the Volunteers end their postseason turn.

Will she? We'll see.



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Caitlin Ingle, G - Drake

Savvy? Yes.

Smart with the the basketball? Absolutely.

Now after her dynamic performance in the Missouri Valley Conference final against Northern Iowa -- an MVP performance, mind you -- there's no denying Caitlin Ingle is clutch.



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Tori Jankoska, guard/forward, Michigan State

"I think she’s a top-10 draft pick, but a lot of that in the WNBA side depends on how many of the underclassmen decided to declare and come out," said Michigan State coach Suzy Merchant. "She’s had to play in the shadows of Aerial (Powers) for three years. I don’t think many people knew how good she was. I’ve had so many media and scouts say ‘we had no idea’, it’s because she put the team first. Those two were a dynamic duo and she was sort of the compliment to Aerial and now she’s in that role and you can see what she can really do.


"We had no idea", just like with Copper.


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Brionna Jones, F - Maryland

Jones has been as steady a force as any player in college basketball. Her last two seasons, especially have been most impressive and that has helped make the Terrapins a national title threat.



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Chantel Osahor, post, Washington

The most dominant interior force in all of D1 women's basketball. Period.



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Alexis Peterson, guard, Syracuse

Smooth. Just too smooth.

Peterson played a huge role in the Orange's landmark 2015-16 run to the D1 title game and she has continued her dominant play in her swan song.



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Kelsey Plum, G - Washington

Plum became the all-time scoring leader in the history of D1 basketball and for good reason.



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PostPosted: 03/16/17 2:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good luck watching Nia Coffey. Northwestern didn't make the NCAA tournament and they declined their NIT invitation.



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PostPosted: 03/16/17 3:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
2018 first round mock (Too Early) This is mostly just for fun based on a discussion in Liberty thread about why you don't trade your first round pick, or a psychic vision (And yeah I only have Deshields declaring early in 17)

1. SA A. Wilson
2. Atl B. Turner
3. Indy K. Mitchell
4. Conn G. Williams
5. PX A. Gray
6. Dallas M. Russell
7. Chicago V. Vivians
8. Washington L. Brown
9. Seattle J. Canada
10. NY S. Mavunga
11. Minn J. Nared
12. LA M. Billings

And that leaves Davis, Nurse, Hines-Allen, M. Moore, Greenwell, Scaife, McCarty, Harper all in the 2nd round


Nurse is easily a first round pick. Easily.


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PostPosted: 03/16/17 4:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I think Kia Nurse is a very good player, but what position will she play in the W? I don't see her as quick enough to defend the three, nor quite big and strong enough to play the four.



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PostPosted: 03/16/17 4:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
I think Kia Nurse is a very good player, but what position will she play in the W? I don't see her as quick enough to defend the three, nor quite big and strong enough to play the four.


I tend to avoid UConn games, but I thought she played guard, including some point guard. Has she only been a 3 for them?


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PostPosted: 03/16/17 5:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

tfan wrote:
ClayK wrote:
I think Kia Nurse is a very good player, but what position will she play in the W? I don't see her as quick enough to defend the three, nor quite big and strong enough to play the four.


I tend to avoid UConn games, but I thought she played guard, including some point guard. Has she only been a 3 for them?


She is a SG and plays point sometimes. KLS is the 3 for the UConn.


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PostPosted: 03/16/17 7:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Isn't Nurse PG for the Canadian NT?


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sammieee wrote:
Isn't Nurse PG for the Canadian NT?


She plays the 2. Miah-Marie Langlois plays point for the North. And quite well. Come to think of it I'm surprised she's never gotten a shot in the W. She's probably better than half of the backup point guards in this league.


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sammieee wrote:
Isn't Nurse PG for the Canadian NT?


yes sometimes, but she will have trouble defensively at PG in the W...not enough foot speed. Still she will probably make a decent combo guard.



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J-Spoon wrote:
2018 first round mock (Too Early) This is mostly just for fun based on a discussion in Liberty thread about why you don't trade your first round pick, or a psychic vision (And yeah I only have Deshields declaring early in 17)

1. SA A. Wilson
2. Atl B. Turner
3. Indy K. Mitchell
4. Conn G. Williams
5. PX A. Gray
6. Dallas M. Russell
7. Chicago V. Vivians
8. Washington L. Brown
9. Seattle J. Canada
10. NY S. Mavunga
11. Minn J. Nared
12. LA M. Billings

And that leaves Davis, Nurse, Hines-Allen, M. Moore, Greenwell, Scaife, McCarty, Harper all in the 2nd round


I'm not impressed with Russell,Vivians,Gray or Nurse.I'd select Nared before any of the aforementioned players.


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PostPosted: 03/16/17 7:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/2017-wnba-draft-order/

So much information. Laughing


And they forgot that SAS now has #5, not PHX.


This is SO pathetic. Like really, a month away! They do at least finally have the 2nd and third round order...but still have Phoenix at #5. Maybe there's a trade we don't know about. Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 03/16/17 8:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
So why is the 2018 draft going to be that much deeper than the 2017 draft?


Shocked Myisha Hines-Allen was the ACC Player of the Year as a Sophomore, and she's currently projected as a 2nd round pick. Brooke McCarty won Big 12 PoY and she's being being projected as a 2nd round round pick. Generally, major conference PoYs don't get taken in the 2nd round. If Hines-Allen were eligible for this draft she would be the best 4-prospect by a long shot and a lock for the 1st round. I'm not really sure what people aren't seeing here. The 2018 draft is deep.


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After the season, Fitzgerald will focus on a possible pro career. The sport and recreation management major feels she has a chance to play either in the WNBA or overseas.

The WNBA draft is April 13. A ccording to some draft sites, she is predicted to be taken early in the third round.

“I can’t talk to scouts or agents yet, but I’ve heard my name came up,” she said. “I feel like I’ve worked very hard. ... I feel like I deserve to get to that level (WNBA). But I wouldn’t mind going overseas.”


http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/elsewhere/basketball/former-lake-taylor-high-star-will-go-out-dancing-with/article_00c8c735-dbed-5dfe-8550-59adbf861861.html



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PostPosted: 03/17/17 1:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

sigur3 wrote:
lynxmania wrote:
http://www.wnba.com/2017-wnba-draft-order/

So much information. Laughing


And they forgot that SAS now has #5, not PHX.


They have fixed this



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ROUND 1, DAY 1
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                                       |---TOTAL---| |---3-PTS---|               |----REBOUNDS----|
## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA  Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts Avg
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13 Akhator, Evelyn      1-1    35-35    9-15    .600   0-0   .000   4-5    .800   6   4    10   10   3   2   2   1   1   22  22
15 Allen, Lindsay       1-1    27-27    6-8     .750   0-0   .000   2-2   1.000   1   7     8    8   2   6   3   0   1   14  14
32 Cooper, Shayla       1-1    27-27    3-11    .273   0-2   .000   0-0    .000   0  15    15   15   1   6   3   0   0    6  6   
25 Epps, Makayla        1-1    40-40   11-18    .611   5-8   .625   3-6    .500   1   4     5    5   1   2   1   0   1   30  30
01 Jankoska, Tori       1-1    40-40    7-12    .583   3-6   .500   9-9   1.000   0   8     8    8   2   3   5   0   0   26  26
42 Jones, Brionna       1-1    25-25   11-17    .647   0-0   .000   3-4    .750   5   5    10   10   1   1   0   2   4   25  25
10 Romero, Leticia      1-1    30-30    5-11    .455   1-5   .200   1-2    .500   0   0     0    0   1   3   1   1   3   12  12
32 Walker-Kimbrough,S.  1-1    27-27   12-18    .667   3-4   .750   1-1   1.000   0   1     1    1   0   2   1   0   5   28  28
24 Wiese, Sydney        1-1    33-33    1-8     .125   1-8   .125   4-4   1.000   0   5     5    5   2   6   3   1   0    7   7
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03 Davis, Kaela         1-1    25-25    2-10    .200   2-6   .333   0-0    .000   4   5     9    9   3   1   3   3   0    6   6
10 Gray, Allisha        1-1    21-21   11-13    .846   0-1   .000   0-1    .000   7   5    12   12   2   3   0   1   0   22  22
03 Mitchell, Kelsey     1-1    39-39    5-15    .333   3-7   .429   2-3    .667   0   3     3    3   3   2   1   1   0   15  15
35 Vivians, Victoria    1-0    16-16    5-11    .455   3-5   .600   0-2    .000   1   5     6    6   1   0   1   0   1   13  13



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John Adams: This could be last tournament for DeShields, Russell

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/columnists/university-of-tennessee/john-adams/2017/03/17/john-adams-could-last-tournament-deshields-russell/99305254/

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Both are fourth-year juniors who likely will be high WNBA first-round picks if they should choose to forgo their senior season. In one mock draft, DeShields is projected as the first overall pick and Russell No. 7.

As they prepare for Saturday’s first-round tournament game against Dayton, they aren’t professing to think beyond March Madness.

"It's not something I'm worrying about," Russell said Friday. "I will think about it later."


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DeShields also is immersed with the business at hand but admits, "It's definitely something that's looming over both our heads."


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DeShields is probably the least likely of the two to come back. As highly as she already is rated, she hardly could improve her draft status. Moreover, her game might be better suited for the pros than college.


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But the 6-foot-6 Russell surely could better prepare herself for the WNBA and overseas by using all her college eligibility. Her strength and aggressiveness improved from last season to this one, but there’s room for more improvement in both areas. Foot problems slowed her development, necessitated surgeries and forced her to redshirt one season at Tennessee. Since she has been injury-free this season, she might want to sign a contract while she’s in the best of health.



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Sykes has got that leadeship thing going on




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PostPosted: 03/18/17 7:59 pm    ::: Kelsey Plum #1 Overall? Reply Reply with quote

Ruth Riley is in Seattle at the NCAA tournament round one games presumably scouting Kelsey Plum for the top pick. I doubt she would fly all the way to Seattle to watch Maddie Manning Razz



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BelloFratello wrote:
Ruth Riley is in Seattle at the NCAA tournament round one games presumably scouting Kelsey Plum for the top pick. I doubt she would fly all the way to Seattle to watch Maddie Manning Razz


Maybe she's checking out Peyton Ferris for a sneaky third round pick. So far, Ferris is out-scoring Plum.



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Could These 5 Mid-Major Stars Make A WNBA Roster?

http://herosports.com/wnba-draft/d1-womens-basketball-5-mid-major-stars-make-a-wnba-roster-blbl

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Jasmine Joyner, post, Chattanooga

"She’s got a big upside,” Chattanooga head coach Jim Foster said. “She’s gotten better every year. Nothing leads me to believe that is going to stop. I think she has added dimensions to her game every year she’s been here. I think she’ll make a lot of money playing this game.

“I think she’ll eventually find her way into a potential where she could have a shot at a WNBA situation because she is so versatile, coachable and an intelligent basketball player.”



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Ally Lehman, guard, Northern Illinois

The senior guard posted ridiculous numbers this season with averages of 18.3 points, 9.7 rebounds and 6.5 assists per contest while shooting 48.4 percent from the field.

"Ally has a good basketball IQ, she sees the floor and she can score the basketball,” NIU head coach Lisa Carlsen said. “I've coached some talented players before, but I don't know that anybody makes the people around her better than Ally has made us this year. She's a fiery competitor and she's fierce on the court, and she'll run through the wall and do anything you ask."



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Kalani Purcell, forward, BYU

"Kalani had a very good year for us, she led the conference two years straight in rebounding and in assists,” BYU head coach Jeff Judkins said. “This year she had to change up her game a little bit because we looked for her to score more. She did that really well during the year, especially during our conference schedule. She also improved her defensive game, having to usually guard the other team’s best player."



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Dezz Ramos, guard, San Jose State

"With her ability to create off the dribble, shoot from distance as well as away from the ball off screening action, Dezz is a prolific scorer who can hurt opponents on all three levels,” San Jose State head coach Jamie Craighead said. “She has a high basketball IQ and the sky is the limit for her with a basketball in her hands."



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Jennie Simms, guard, Old Dominion

"I always tell everybody, to truly enjoy Jennie, come watch practice,” Old Dominion head coach Karen Barefoot said. “Basketball is her life. She enjoys her teammates, loves to play, lives for practice. She's definitely going to the next level. If she wants to, she can be a franchise player in the WNBA. I mean, the girl's going to outwork anybody."



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PostPosted: 03/19/17 6:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Diamond Deshields:

1.Has the physical tools
2.Has the athletic tools
3.Has the speed
4.Can create her own shot
5.Can create for teammates
6.Is a very good defender
7.Is a very good rebounder
8.Does not need the ball in her hand to make an impact on the basketball game.

Deshields imo is the #1 pick.San Antonio already has a diminutive pg(Jefferson) and a high volume mediocre defensive sg(Mcbride).Adding a high volume,ball dominate,undersize,poor defensive sg would be counterproductive.The silver stars should draft Deshields with the first pick then contemplate trading Mcbride.Diamond's perceived bad attitude is a non issue.I've never heard one of Diamond's teammates or coaches question her attitude or work ethic.Even if the perception was true,I can make a list of wnba players who had/have a diva-like attitude.

There are 3 the main components to basketball.Offense,defense,and rebounded.Deshields can do all three.

Jefferson/Plum= poor defensive,low rebounding backcourt
Jefferson/Mitchell= poor defensive,low rebounding backcourt

Diamond will be the #1 pick.


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PostPosted: 03/19/17 10:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I cannot see Ruth Riley passing on Plum after spending all those years on a team with Becky Hammon. Certainly not for a career 41.5 percent shooter, including 28.1 on 3s, with more turnovers than assists.

Plum may not be able to pull off all the tricks around the rim that Hammon could, but her size and high, quick release will allow her to create more scoring opportunities on the perimeter for herself than Hammon could.


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Diamond Deshields:

1.Has the physical tools
2.Has the athletic tools
3.Has the speed
4.Can create her own shot
5.Can create for teammates
6.Is a very good defender
7.Is a very good rebounder
8.Does not need the ball in her hand to make an impact on the basketball game.

Deshields imo is the #1 pick.San Antonio already has a diminutive pg(Jefferson) and a high volume mediocre defensive sg(Mcbride).Adding a high volume,ball dominate,undersize,poor defensive sg would be counterproductive.The silver stars should draft Deshields with the first pick then contemplate trading Mcbride.Diamond's perceived bad attitude is a non issue.I've never heard one of Diamond's teammates or coaches question her attitude or work ethic.Even if the perception was true,I can make a list of wnba players who had/have a diva-like attitude.

There are 3 the main components to basketball.Offense,defense,and rebounded.Deshields can do all three.

Jefferson/Plum= poor defensive,low rebounding backcourt
Jefferson/Mitchell= poor defensive,low rebounding backcourt

Diamond will be the #1 pick.


If DeShields does those things consistently, no question ... but will she? Her track record suggests that she doesn't bring it every night. Maybe she will in the pros, though.



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Plum over DeSheilds & Mitchell??



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I'm getting to believe if both DeShields and Mitchell apply for 2017 WNBA Draft they'll be the top 2 selected in the draft, one way or another. I believe too there's more trades to come involving 1 or 2 of the top 6 selections of the draft. Also, I believe Coates' stock is dropping.


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I'm getting to believe if both DeShields and Mitchell apply for 2017 WNBA Draft they'll be the top 2 selected in the draft, one way or another. I believe too there's more trades to come involving 1 or 2 of the top 6 selections of the draft. Also, I believe Coates' stock is dropping.


So Dallas would take Plum(#3) & B. Jones (#4)?



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I cannot see Ruth Riley passing on Plum after spending all those years on a team with Becky Hammon. Certainly not for a career 41.5 percent shooter, including 28.1 on 3s, with more turnovers than assists.


Stat comparison at the college level can be dubious.While Plum has better offensive numbers than Deshields,Tennessee plays in a tougher conference,and played a tougher non-conference schedule.

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Plum may not be able to pull off all the tricks around the rim that Hammon could, but her size and high, quick release will allow her to create more scoring opportunities on the perimeter for herself than Hammon could.


The difference is that Hammon played pg,Plum will have to play sg unless SA trades Jefferson.


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If DeShields does those things consistently, no question ... but will she? Her track record suggests that she doesn't bring it every night. Maybe she will in the pros, though.


From the way Diamond trains her body,I believe she's a self motivated basketball player.Diamond plays hard.Rarely have I seen a lack of effort on her part.Diamond's inconsistent play has more to do with the Tennessee program imo.Holly's too soft of a coach.I've seen lady vol players take low quality shots,be careless with the ball,and miss defensive assignments without any reprimand from coach Warlick.Vickie Johnson will have to put her foot down from day 1.


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yeah, today's game just put Miah Spencer into the 2nd round.



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toad455 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
I'm getting to believe if both DeShields and Mitchell apply for 2017 WNBA Draft they'll be the top 2 selected in the draft, one way or another. I believe too there's more trades to come involving 1 or 2 of the top 6 selections of the draft. Also, I believe Coates' stock is dropping.


So Dallas would take Plum(#3) & B. Jones (#4)?


Yes, Plum #3 and B. Jones #4 if DeShields and Mitchell both apply for the 2017 WNBA Draft but I'm not saying both Plum and B. Jones will play in a Dallas uniform because the #3 or #4 selection might be traded. Greg Bibb is involve with Dallas, they could make an unconventional move.


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Hammon had a decent amount of assists per game but didn't really play PG or at least didn't play PG for a decent chunk of her minutes at any rate. In NY T-Spoon was the PG in SA Hammon was often on the floor with H. Darling at PG in her early years there and D-Rob at PG in the later years.

Overall I think Hammon is a very good comparison for Plum, and Plum can distribute enough to also play the 1 if say SA drafts her and she is on the floor without Jefferson. Also while she isn't a great defender Plum has the shooting and size to play at the SG spot if need be. The bigger question in SA if you draft Plum is can you play Plum, with Jefferson and McBride at the 1-3 or does Plum come off the bench in more of a R. Williams in Dallas or J. Crawford for the Clippers kind of role to start?

If I'm SA I probably take Deshields but I would heavily consider Plum.


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Going into deep prospects, does anyone think that Hind Ben Abdelkader would be worth a third round gamble as a potential shooter at some point? As a 95 born player who was briefly a collegian, she should be eligible this year, right?
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Going into deep prospects, does anyone think that would be worth a third round gamble as a potential shooter at some point? As a 95 born player who was briefly a collegian, she should be eligible this year, right?


Yes, based on age she would be eligible. I've never heard of Hind Ben Abdelkader, much less watched her, so I can't comment on her game. Just looking at the numbers, those shooting percentages on good volume are eye-popping so I see why you're interested. Nonetheless, she's only 5-8 and listed as a SG. This draft is full of small guards. Most of them play PG, where a small guard is best suited, and most of them can also score. I'd say chances for your girl are slim. Her best bet is one of those teams who prefer to take a foreign player and leave them overseas to develop rather than draft an American who has little chance of making the team.



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She was not impressive in her time at Cal, for whatever that's worth.



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So Diamond and Mercedes are 'on the clock'. How long do they have to declare?



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So Diamond and Mercedes are 'on the clock'. How long do they have to declare?

It's basically the same for everyone this year: 10 days before the draft. You have 24 hours after your final game if you're still playing inside that 10 days, but that's essentially the gap between the championship game and the draft this season.

Assuming the draft is April 13th as expected.



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So Diamond and Mercedes are 'on the clock'. How long do they have to declare?

It's basically the same for everyone this year: 10 days before the draft. You have 24 hours after your final game if you're still playing inside that 10 days, but that's essentially the gap between the championship game and the draft this season.

Assuming the draft is April 13th as expected.


Oh darn. I wanna know.



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So for draft excitement I hope Diamond declares but,

doesn't Tenn have a quality red shirt PG coming back, and a really strong draft class including Westbrook who is the #1 or #2 player in the class? Could Tenn if no one leaves be a top 10 team next season? Would that appeal to Diamond and Mercedes to give it one more go round?

I mean if Diamond really wants to be remembered at Tenn wouldn't a possible final four run have some appeal? It would be crazy if Tenn ended up in the final championship game against UConn? Now that would be legendary.

With that said I think Diamond graduates this year, declares and ends up in Chicago. Either at #2 or a Chicago trade of #2 and #9 for #1 if SA doesn't want her and wants to get another piece in return. Chicago really only has room for one draftee anyway. Who better (or worse depending on your perspective) for Diamond to be mentored by than Cappie.


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Richyyy wrote:
myrtle wrote:
So Diamond and Mercedes are 'on the clock'. How long do they have to declare?

It's basically the same for everyone this year: 10 days before the draft. You have 24 hours after your final game if you're still playing inside that 10 days, but that's essentially the gap between the championship game and the draft this season.

Assuming the draft is April 13th as expected.


Since the date of the draft hasn't been officially announced, there's no hurry



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If San Antonio drafts Plum,who starts ?.......if the silver stars draft Plum could they package Jefferson & Mcbride for MCcoughtry ? or maybe Jefferson for Stokes ? I'm not against SA drafting Plum.I just think a backcourt of Jefferson.Plum and Mcbride will get exposed on defense.


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Jefferson/Plum/McBride would hardly be the smallest perimeter in league history, but if it doesn't work you can still play them all 30 minutes a night with minimal crossover when matchups work out.

As is invariably the case, they should just take whoever they think is the best player. Don't go with DeShields just because she seems an easier fit; only take her if you think she'll be the better WNBA player.



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After tonight, anyone who uses "because she plays in a stronger conference" as an excuse for DeShields' shooting %s compared to Plum's can sit down. The Pac-12 has 2 more teams in the sweet 16 than the ACC and 3 more than the SEC. The PAC's 6th best team beat a 2 seed and their 5th best almost beat a 1 seed. They've been the best all year (and last year, actually). So, no, I don't think DeShields' shooting is because the plays tougher opponents, because she doesn't. It's because she's not a great shooter.


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