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UK1996
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Posted: 03/16/17 9:57 pm ::: Which player had the best chance to improve her draft stock? |
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With the NCAA tournament starting tomorrow, I thought this might be an interesting topic. In the past we have seen players like Courtney Vandersloot and Ally Mallot improve their stock significantly in the tournament. So which players do you think could raise their stock with a strong NCAA tournament run?
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zune69
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Posted: 03/16/17 10:07 pm ::: |
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readyAIMfire53
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Posted: 03/17/17 1:11 am ::: |
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Kaela Davis
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zune69
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Posted: 03/17/17 2:51 am ::: |
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Kaela Davis |
I agree.
Kaela has all the physical & athletic tools to be a top 4 pick.
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Posted: 03/17/17 8:19 am ::: |
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Posted: 03/17/17 9:55 am ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
readyAIMfire53 wrote: |
Kaela Davis |
I agree.
Kaela has all the physical & athletic tools to be a top 4 pick. |
She's going to have to learn to shoot.
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hangtyme24
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Posted: 03/17/17 1:35 pm ::: |
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Akhator, Epps, K. Davis and A. Gray (if they decide to declare early) could all raise their stock. Or one or two bad performances can drop their stocks too. No one is mentioning K. Davis declaring early but I think with a good NCAA showing she could be a first rounder this year. Next year is pretty deep, and it looks like she might've played her way into the 2nd rd. Maybe late 1st in next year's draft.
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UK1996
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Posted: 03/17/17 2:56 pm ::: |
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I'm thinking Russel, Akhator, and McCall could improve their stock. This draft is guard heavy. So if a team sees something they like they may bite. Epps is definitely a player who can rise as well. She had 30 points today.
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ClayK
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Posted: 03/18/17 12:04 pm ::: |
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I think history has proven that taking the final few games of a four-year career as any kind of definitive measure of a player's pro potential is a mistake.
Just because a player is hot (or cold) right now won't have much impact on draft status for GMs with a clue.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 03/18/17 2:41 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
I think history has proven that taking the final few games of a four-year career as any kind of definitive measure of a player's pro potential is a mistake.
Just because a player is hot (or cold) right now won't have much impact on draft status for GMs with a clue. |
Possibly only because after the fact we assume the good ones were picked high because of a track record. Was Courtney Vandersloot going as high as she did before Gonzaga's run to the Elite 8 in her senior year? I think there are times when a player can make a GM legitimately believe in them in that final run of games. Admittedly, sometimes that might just mean that they should've believed beforehand. |
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Posted: 03/18/17 2:43 pm ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
ClayK wrote: |
I think history has proven that taking the final few games of a four-year career as any kind of definitive measure of a player's pro potential is a mistake.
Just because a player is hot (or cold) right now won't have much impact on draft status for GMs with a clue. |
Possibly only because after the fact we assume the good ones were picked high because of a track record. Was Courtney Vandersloot going as high as she did before Gonzaga's run to the Elite 8 in her senior year? I think there are times when a player can make a GM legitimately believe in them in that final run of games. Admittedly, sometimes that might just mean that they should've believed beforehand. |
Vandersloot was likely going that high anyway. Clay is probably referring to players like Mokango, from the Congo, who went from nowhere to the first round based on a good tournament game or two.
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Posted: 03/18/17 3:54 pm ::: |
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I could see the tournament demonstrating the talent of a player at a mid-major school who gets to go up against higher-level competition if a team advances as a Cinderella. But such a situation is rare.
I remember Laimbeer talking about the pre-draft camp on here years back and how useful it could be in evaluating the higher-end players once they compete with each other. I could see that being useful because you can mimic a pro-style game when there's equivalent talents on the floor simultaneously. To me, that's probably more effective than the tournament in terms of talent evaluation.
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root_thing
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Posted: 03/18/17 5:29 pm ::: |
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I don't know what WNBA people were thinking, but before the tournament, Rebkell posters were mostly projecting Vandersloot to be taken either high 2nd or low 1st Round. So, going #3 overall was a big jump if our board was any indication.
I think tournament performance makes more of a difference in a weak draft like this one. If you're not that thrilled with the available pool, then a player who steps up under pressure in do or die games may separate herself from the pack. Also, leaving a good final impression probably helps.
The best players don't usually attend pre-draft camp. It's primarily for bubble players: mid-major athletes who need to prove they can compete against good competition, athletic players who didn't put up numbers, players who need to transition to another position at the pro level, etc. It's also an alternative showcase for players whose teams didn't play in either the NCAA or WNIT tournaments.
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Posted: 03/18/17 7:30 pm ::: |
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root_thing wrote: |
I don't know what WNBA people were thinking, but before the tournament, Rebkell posters were mostly projecting Vandersloot to be taken either high 2nd or low 1st Round. So, going #3 overall was a big jump if our board was any indication.
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Agree. I also remember her being projected low to mid first round at best. Getting to the final 8 and going up against an uptick in level of competition and in the ultimate pressure situation in my opinion definitely helped her stock.
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Posted: 03/19/17 2:05 am ::: |
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Breanna Lewis dominated a good but undersized Drake team today, and I'm curious what KSU is able to do against Stanford. I don't know if she'll raise her stock but considering how much of a hot commodity height is, I'm pretty surprised that a long, athletic 6'5" player is not getting more attention. IMO she's better than a handful of end-of-bench posts, at least.
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Posted: 03/19/17 6:55 pm ::: |
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I believe Chantel Osahor could move up the draft board, she has a inside presence.
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Posted: 03/19/17 7:42 pm ::: |
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PickledGinger wrote: |
Breanna Lewis dominated a good but undersized Drake team today, and I'm curious what KSU is able to do against Stanford. I don't know if she'll raise her stock but considering how much of a hot commodity height is, I'm pretty surprised that a long, athletic 6'5" player is not getting more attention. IMO she's better than a handful of end-of-bench posts, at least. |
I think she could go late 2nd-early 3rd round. As you said, she's a legit 6'5" and those don't grow on trees. Free throws are gonna be a problem though.
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zune69
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Posted: 03/19/17 9:53 pm ::: |
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I believe Chantel Osahor could move up the draft board, she has a inside presence. |
Another overrated wnba prospect who doesn't pass the eye test and plays in a weak conference.The same goes for Wiese.
Akhator > Osahor and Fitzgerald > Wiese.
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Posted: 03/19/17 10:50 pm ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
SportsGuru wrote: |
I believe Chantel Osahor could move up the draft board, she has a inside presence. |
Another overrated wnba prospect who doesn't pass the eye test and plays in a weak conference.The same goes for Wiese.
Akhator > Osahor and Fitzgerald > Wiese. |
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Posted: 03/20/17 7:37 am ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
I think history has proven that taking the final few games of a four-year career as any kind of definitive measure of a player's pro potential is a mistake.
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Unless your name is Briann January .
She is the perfect example of a tournament run turning into becoming a high pick and than actually backing it up on court!
But she is the only one who comes to mind....
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ClayK
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Posted: 03/20/17 11:19 am ::: |
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I was not that impressed with Akhator. She had trouble finishing against college posts in this one game, though her season-long percentage is 56.8.
If she can score against WNBA posts inside, she has other skills, though the 32/71 A/TO is concerning.
Osahor was considered the weakest link on her national championship high school team that had five Power 5 players, but wound up being by far the best in college. It could be that she will do the same at the pro level, or it could be that she has reached her ceiling. She's so unusual, though, that she's much harder to project than more traditional posts such as Akhator.
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