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[Bob Lamm]

[Michelle89]

[canadaball]

[J-Spoon]

Clark and Currie are both good player, not great but good solid options for the SF spot.

In terms of the Liberty I think trading Zellous for Currie or Clark or say Schimmel and #14 for Clark if Seattle has any interest in Shoni could be an improvement to the team. The Liberty are at a place in their development where even a decent small improvement could get them another rung up the ladder to the finals.

With that said I'm still OK with just going with the cross fingers hope Allen takes a huge step forward, use Zellous at the SF when we can afford to go small, and hope one of Burdick or Raincock-Wkunwe can be converted to a 10-15 minute a night SF option plan. Overall I still prefer Zellous to either Clark or Currie, but if we made the swap for either for the good of the team I can get on board with it.

I'm still hoping Laimbeer and company could pull off some sort of sneaky move to get Christmas or A. Thomas without having to give up too much, (I'd consider the 2018 first round pick as the best option to pull that off, even though it is risky, but if NY can get that top four finish in the league I wouldn't worry too much about it. We could even throw in a player lke Hartley or Schimmel if that could make it happen, maybe even Zellous but only for Thomas in that case, also I know its been discussed but I think NY has enough shooters that Thomas' lack of range wouldn't hurt as much as her size and passing from the SF spot would help). But outside of a trade like that I'm coming around to just make the best with what we have.

[Michelle89]

[J-Spoon]

OK just playing the imagination game 2018 first round pick and Hartley to Conn for A. Thomas

Prince/Boyd/Schimmel
Rodgers/Zellous
A. Thomas/Allen
Charles/Zahui B/Burdick
Stokes/Vaughn

Oh I really like that, A. Thomas' passing slash point forward ability makes the Prince/Rodgers back-court work. With Prince, Rodgers, Allen, Schimmel, and sometimes Zahui B and Zellous there is enough shooting to not have to get so nervous about Thomas' lack of range, And in the starting line up Thomas is the 4th option on offense which is great. We would actually have Charles with three other potential double digit scorers on the floor which we haven't had since Tina has been here. And we've got some nice fire power on the bench in Zellous, Allen and Zahui B, another physical defender in Vaughn, Boyd can give us that change of speed PG without the pressure of having to be the starter, and Schimmel gets another season to make her shooting and passing happen for the team as a deep bench option.

Conn probably doesn't go for it but who knows? They get another pick in a strong draft, and a UConn product. If Tuck is healthy she can start at SF and really until Chiney gets back the Sun aren't going anywhere anyway so why not plan for 18, Bria will be fully back from pregnancy by then and they'll have two more first round picks to add to there young but gaining experience roster. Have 17 be the growth of J. Jones, Tuck and C. Williams season, while giving Banham and Gray an ample chance to prove themselves.

[toad455]

Considering how deep the 2018 draft is, I'm not giving up a first round pick unless we're getting someone like McCoughtry or Bonner.

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[root_thing]

I guess I'm somewhere in-between. Assuming that a couple of players come out early in 2017 and are replaced by a couple coming out early in 2018, I would say the depth of the draft gains you roughly 5 slots. In other words, the #10 next year would be like a #5 in a normal year. Certainly, the pick is worth more than normal, but not necessarily too valuable to trade. Management just needs to make that mental adjustment and proceed with caution.

Yes, if you have both Rodgers and Prince in the backcourt, then A. Thomas looks like a better offensive fit -- although to really make it work I think you have to start Zahui B over Stokes. However, while I think that's the backcourt combination that gets first shot, I don't believe it's written in stone. We'll see how the defense works out. I also agree with the second guessing -- this doesn't sound like a trade CT would make. With all the talk about CT's draft picks, Miller ended up relying on a starting line-up of veterans (Chiney, Little, Bentley, Thomases) in the second half and the team played reasonably well. He already has enough young players. At some point, the focus has to be on development. The constant acquisition of rookies sounds like running in place at the starting line.

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[toad455]

I'd love to be able to grab A. Thomas from Connecticut. Adding her as our starting SF, plus her ability to slide over to PF would be a great asset for us. But I don't want to give up a 2018 first round pick. So unless it's Rodgers for Thomas, I don't see anything else working out via a trade.

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[Richyyy]

I feel like people are still imagining the Alyssa Thomas they remember from college. She's played about five seconds of power forward in the WNBA. There's really no evidence that she can play the 4 at this level, even if it seems like she could in theory.

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[Shades]

There's more evidence that Thomas can play PF than there is that Little can play PF at this stage of her career.



That being said, these unrealistic Lib dreams for Thomas need to be put on a shelf. It's not going to happen.

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[mavcarter]

[Happycappie25]

T H I S!!!!!!!!!

[toad455]

For two players? Then we could do A. Thomas & D. Adams for our 1st round pick. Adams is a Laimbeer type player and would fit into his system. Not sure where Zahui B. would fit after this trade.

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[Queenie]

No thanks on Danielle Adams. Been there, done that with Kara Braxton.

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[LFO]

We have weekly conference calls and have great discussions involving all staff re draft/trades/FA.
But I must say, this thread is entertaining and informative on fan thinking.
Keep it up. Liberty thread is kicking butt on all others.

[Shades]

The notion of trading for a player that Miller just signed to a training camp contract has got to be part of the entertainment value.

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[J-Spoon]

I'm not saying I'm completely for it, but the 2018 first round pick is a decent asset, getting an experienced SF that solves our problem at that spot like Thomas or Christmas isn't going to happen for free. I would rather take the risk with the pick than trade someone like Stokes, Rodgers or even Zahui B (who I think is about to have that break through season.) I'm confident that if NY gets a decent SF and gets to keep the team we have in place now a top 4 finish is in the cards TBH I think were top 4 without any moves at all (Yes it is a risk to make that assumption but you don't trade for decent players without taking a risk), so the pick should be 9-12.

Lets see who is really going to be there even if no one declares top 8
Wilson, Deshields, Mitchell, Williams, Vivians, Gray, Canada, Brown, OK that is 8, Davis, Mavunga, Harper, Hines-Allen, Moore, Greenwell So yeah it is a risk, but I would easily trade most of the players past six for a proven SF now, and if a couple of those top players declare in 17 the line moves further down.

I was here for the Spencer trade so I understand the fear, but we're in our window right now, even if we get a really good talent in the 18 draft it will still be a year or two unless its a lottery type pick for that player to make an impact. If we can get a decent SF now I do it, we've discussed the SF spot for a while now and there just aren't that many good one out there. I would role the dice.

[root_thing]

[J-Spoon]

[Happycappie25]

[CamrnCrz1974]

[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

I'm a little late to the party. But to piggyback on these other points, I want no part of either Currie or Thomas. Currie has lost at least a step, her shot selection is awful and she doesn't fit the Libs system. Z is flawed and smaller than Currie, but she is definitely the better of the 2.

On Thomas, the Libs would certainly post her up a lot, but otherwise in terms of fastbreak and spacing in the half court offense to penetrate I think she's also a poor fit. Her D is nothing special and her shot remains poor. I'd rather give Allen minutes and let her develop the upside into performance. Short version: if you can't get DeShields regardless of the package or get Christmas inexpensively, why bother? Nothing else is a clear upgrade. And in the process why mess with the upside of Allen unless the upgrade is crystal clear? Allen is a truly elite shooter with the athleticism to develop the other facets of the game.

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[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

[NYL_WNBA_FAN]

54 days till opening day. FYI.

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