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Phil
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Posted: 03/09/17 2:56 pm ::: |
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I don't know how the committee will view JMU versus Virginia. Their thought process is often inscrutable. I wasn't predicting what the committee would do, I was making the point that JMU is a far stronger team than Virginia. YMMV
EDIT = My bad - I was looking at 2016, not 2017
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 03/09/17 3:38 pm ::: |
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Why do you think JMU is stronger than UVA? I expect UVA would win 8 out of 10 if they played each other now.
UVA has played a far tougher schedule, has beaten much better teams, and especially the last half of the season, has been playing better basketball, in my view.
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Phil
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Posted: 03/09/17 3:59 pm ::: |
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My bad, I was looking at 2016, not 2017.
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linkster
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Posted: 03/09/17 8:16 pm ::: |
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summertime blues wrote: |
Drexel "last out", and AAC a 3 bid conference merely on the strength of a supposedly higher RPI merely because UConn is in their conference? I don't think so. For one, JMU has a better record than Drexel, and for the other, two, UConn and USF. |
Drexel - RPI 79 SOS 140 top 50 RPI wins 1(Syracuse, rpi 31)
USF - RPI 30 SOS 54 top 50 RPI wins 2(Temple,rpi 18,)
Temple - RPI 18 SOS 52 top 50 RPI wins 4(Quin, rpi 32, DePaul rpi 17, USF, rpi 30)
JMU - RPI 41, SOS 83, top 50 rpi wins 2(Elon, rpi 29)
I'm no fan of RPI but the NCAA is. But Massey rates Drexel 105, JMU 63, USF 35, Temple 33
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elsie
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Posted: 03/09/17 10:29 pm ::: |
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"First & Second Rounds | March 17-20, 2017
First- and second-round competition for the 2017 NCAA Division I Women's Basketball Championship will be held on 16 non-predetermined campus sites. At each campus site, four teams will compete in single-elimination first-round competition. The two winning teams will then compete against each other in single-elimination second-round competition at the same campus site. The winning team from each of the 16 second-round games will advance to the regional rounds of play."
I found this at the NCAA site....it says "16 non predetermined campus sites"......for those experts here, what the heck does that mean?...does it mean nobody knows for sure where they play from the list of 16 sites or does it mean the sites themselves could be anywhere....
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bcdawg04
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Posted: 03/09/17 11:01 pm ::: |
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elsie wrote: |
"First & Second Rounds | March 17-20, 2017
First- and second-round competition for the 2017 NCAA Division I Women's Basketball Championship will be held on 16 non-predetermined campus sites. At each campus site, four teams will compete in single-elimination first-round competition. The two winning teams will then compete against each other in single-elimination second-round competition at the same campus site. The winning team from each of the 16 second-round games will advance to the regional rounds of play."
I found this at the NCAA site....it says "16 non predetermined campus sites"......for those experts here, what the heck does that mean?...does it mean nobody knows for sure where they play from the list of 16 sites or does it mean the sites themselves could be anywhere.... |
The schools who are named the top 16 seeds will each host the first and second rounds. There was a period of time when the first two rounds were held at predetermined sites. I think attendance was generally not that good since they were almost always neutral sites, and so the NCAA went back to having the higher seed host. So the 16 sites are now considered "non predetermined".
In 2007, I went to Minnesota for the first weekend of the tourney. Even though the Gophers were not playing, the attendance was actually terrific because Iowa State sent up busloads of fans.
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elsie
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Posted: 03/10/17 1:05 am ::: |
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thx....
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mzonefan
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Posted: 03/10/17 7:06 am ::: |
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Generally it's the top 16, but sometimes there are site conflicts for those teams. For instance, Stanford cannot host this year due to their arena being used for PAC12 gymnastics.
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elsie
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Posted: 03/10/17 3:56 pm ::: |
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soo, if Stanford can't host, where do you think those games will be played?
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pilight
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Posted: 03/10/17 4:14 pm ::: |
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elsie wrote: |
soo, if Stanford can't host, where do you think those games will be played? |
Historically, the next highest seed in the pod hosts
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pilight
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Shades
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Posted: 03/13/17 11:49 am ::: |
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System definitely needs retooling. Two things I predict won't happen: Maryland as a #4 seed, and Big Ten only getting 2 entries.
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purduefanatic
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Posted: 03/13/17 12:15 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
System definitely needs retooling. Two things I predict won't happen: Maryland as a #4 seed, and Big Ten only getting 2 entries. |
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colt13
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Posted: 03/13/17 1:09 pm ::: |
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Because every Mid Major except UCONN is downgraded for the conference schedule, I might say 1.50 for their 1-25 wins, and .50 for 26-50. Keep the losses the same.
Guess is since UCONN's non conference is so strong, it shouldn't affect them, but all of the others.
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pilight
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Posted: 03/13/17 2:20 pm ::: |
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It's going to take some serious contortion of logic to get another B10 team in. Michigan has no wins against the top 50 of RPI, Michigan State has no top 25 wins and a pair of sub 150 losses, and it goes on like that all the way down the standings Penn State's win over Tennessee is the only top 25 RPI win for the conference outside the top two teams.
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5thmantheme
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Posted: 03/13/17 4:40 pm ::: |
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Would love to see Tennessee matched up with Oregon State or Maryland or Baylor, for some head-to-head W prospect battles. Same with Washington v Ohio State.
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Shades
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Posted: 03/13/17 7:12 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
System definitely needs retooling. Two things I predict won't happen: Maryland as a #4 seed, and Big Ten only getting 2 entries. |
It was a really easy call, but I still have to clear my throat. *cough*
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pilight
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Posted: 03/13/17 7:18 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
System definitely needs retooling. Two things I predict won't happen: Maryland as a #4 seed, and Big Ten only getting 2 entries. |
It was a really easy call, but I still have to clear my throat. *cough* |
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