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PostPosted: 02/23/17 12:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Since the Mystics theme this season is local flavor, I think they'll stick with the script and go with SWK over Coffey. That'll be adding yet another good 3 pt shooter (on the college level anyway) to the roster. If BJones shows up at #6, they'll take her instead.



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PostPosted: 02/23/17 2:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Mystics resigned Tianna Hawkins.

My Projected 2017 Mystics Roster

Toliver/Cloud
Hill/Latta
EDD/Ruffin-Pratt/Taylor/(#6 Pick Coffey- Swing 3/4)
Hawkins/Thomas
Meesseman/Sanders


leaves a pretty thin guard core, especially considering recent injuries.



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PostPosted: 02/23/17 2:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The addition of Hawkins and EDD's multi position options now allows Washington to go back-court with the #6 pick, SWK, A. Jones, Peterson someone decent will be there

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Toliver/Latta
Hill/Cloud/#6 SWK
TRP/Taylor
EDD/Hawkins/Sanders
Messeman/K. Thomas


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PostPosted: 02/23/17 3:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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The addition of Hawkins and EDD's multi position options now allows Washington to go back-court with the #6 pick, SWK, A. Jones, Peterson someone decent will be there

maybe
Toliver/Latta
Hill/Cloud/#6 SWK
TRP/Taylor
EDD/Hawkins/Sanders
Messeman/K. Thomas


I agree. They are more likely to go guard. Unless a big they really like drops there.



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PostPosted: 02/23/17 6:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I agree too. I think a wing player is a logical addition.



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PostPosted: 02/25/17 12:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Fringe WNBA player Asia Taylor making waves in WNBL

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-25/fringe-wnba-player-asia-taylor-making-waves-in-wnbl/8303532?pfmredir=sm&section=sport

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"Being in Australia was the best of both worlds because the league is so competitive but off the court I get to go to the beach, I get to learn how to surf and hang out, it's the perfect mix."


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"I had no idea Washington was interested and I think Washington would be a good place for me to come into my own and make a name for myself again in the league," Taylor said.

"What I've been doing here, I'm going to try and translate that back in the States."

Moving back into the WNBA format will prove a very different experience then Taylor has had here during summer, with so much attention surrounding her game.

"I'm excited about the fact that [Washington] have such big names, people won't worry about me," she said.

"Here in Australia I'm on everybody's scouting report, it's like 'you gotta stop Asia, you gotta foul her, you gotta do all this stuff', so I get to go on a team where I'm not the most important.

"Buckets I get are going to be a lot easier, it's going to be easier to just do what I do, so thankful to them getting all the attention and I'll just take some open lay-ups for sure."


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"Everybody says really good things about Australia and I will definitely continue to do that to other people who possibly want to come out here," Taylor said.


She should talk to Shoni Schimmel.



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PostPosted: 02/27/17 4:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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[quote=Please keep me posted on this. I live in Middletown and would love to join a bus trip to DC. i used to have season tickets when I lived in Columbia, MD. Thanks!


Delaware Express got back with me, at the moment they are scheduling two trips to Washington.

" Hi we currently have two trips scheduled one on May 14th and the other August 6th

Please call 454-7800 to make a reservation" $35 for the bus to Washington. You have to purchase ticket to get in. This is a pre-season game. My guess there seeing what kind of response they get before scheduling more dates.


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PostPosted: 02/27/17 6:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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wnbafan wrote:
[quote=Please keep me posted on this. I live in Middletown and would love to join a bus trip to DC. i used to have season tickets when I lived in Columbia, MD. Thanks!


Delaware Express got back with me, at the moment they are scheduling two trips to Washington.

" Hi we currently have two trips scheduled one on May 14th and the other August 6th

Please call 454-7800 to make a reservation" $35 for the bus to Washington. You have to purchase ticket to get in. This is a pre-season game. My guess there seeing what kind of response they get before scheduling more dates.

You'd better start getting the word out. Make Del. aware.



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PostPosted: 02/27/17 9:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thanks. I will post on the MOT Facebook site.


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PostPosted: 02/27/17 11:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
The addition of Hawkins and EDD's multi position options now allows Washington to go back-court with the #6 pick, SWK, A. Jones, Peterson someone decent will be there

maybe
Toliver/Latta
Hill/Cloud/#6 SWK
TRP/Taylor
EDD/Hawkins/Sanders
Messeman/K. Thomas


I started posting on the mock draft thread that the Styx would take B. Jones if available. Ended up talking myself into SWK instead due to the addition of K.Thomas and T.Hawkins. I knew when Krystal was playing for Duke that she was WNBA level on defense and that has proved to be true. She was picked low due to her college coach trying to set her up as a scoring post, which she is not. She did a decent job defending Griner and can easily outrebound her.

Now, what about Asia Taylor? Amongst our posts with guard skills, she's a guard size player with post skills. Can she play her game with the slashing guards while the posts slide out to get an outlet 3 pt shot? She's tearing it up in Australia.



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PostPosted: 02/28/17 12:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

readyAIMfire53 wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
The addition of Hawkins and EDD's multi position options now allows Washington to go back-court with the #6 pick, SWK, A. Jones, Peterson someone decent will be there

maybe
Toliver/Latta
Hill/Cloud/#6 SWK
TRP/Taylor
EDD/Hawkins/Sanders
Messeman/K. Thomas


I started posting on the mock draft thread that the Styx would take B. Jones if available. Ended up talking myself into SWK instead due to the addition of K.Thomas and T.Hawkins. I knew when Krystal was playing for Duke that she was WNBA level on defense and that has proved to be true. She was picked low due to her college coach trying to set her up as a scoring post, which she is not. She did a decent job defending Griner and can easily outrebound her.

Now, what about Asia Taylor? Amongst our posts with guard skills, she's a guard size player with post skills. Can she play her game with the slashing guards while the posts slide out to get an outlet 3 pt shot? She's tearing it up in Australia.


As some people have been saying lately success for certain players is all about fit and opportunity. IMO Taylor and Thomas have ended up in a great situation for what they bring to the table.

With EDD and Messeman like playing large roles in the post Thomas will be called upon a lot to bring her physical defensive presence to balance out their mid-range and long rage game. The Mystics co go big with EDD at the 3, Meesseman at the 4 and Thomas bring rim protection at the 5, or play Messeman at the 5 and EDD at the 4 in which case Thomas can come in when either go to the bench to provide defense while the other stay on the court. And with Offensive minded players like Toliver, Hill and Latta on the perimeter Thomas really can focus on what she does best and get her points with rebounds and put backs or dump off after a guard or EDD or Meesseman gets doubled in the post.

Taylor is in a similar spot, you can play her at the 3 with either EDD or Messeman at the 4, on defense she can guard the small forward position, and on offense with either EDD or Meesseman able to play on the perimeter Asia can switch it up and go into the post where she will either have a size advantage against the smaller wing player, or a speed advantage if they switch the SF onto EDD on the perimeter and leave the PF on Asia in the post. This is Taylors chance to not only play but to become an actual piece of a rotation that can be successful.

Another player I've always like is Latta, she didn't have the best season last year, but the addition of EDD and Toliver and the steady play of Meesseman and the emergence of Hill puts Latta in the position of bench scoring a role that I think she can thrive in as well. She is smart enough to know when to give up the ball when you have top level talent playing alongside you, and when to pick your moments to score. In years past she may have felt the need to push her scoring, but I think she can easily evolve into crafty veteran leader who score in a timely fashion, pushes tempo, and sets up the stars.


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PostPosted: 03/01/17 1:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:

Another player I've always like is Latta, she didn't have the best season last year, but the addition of EDD and Toliver and the steady play of Meesseman and the emergence of Hill puts Latta in the position of bench scoring a role that I think she can thrive in as well. She is smart enough to know when to give up the ball when you have top level talent playing alongside you, and when to pick your moments to score. In years past she may have felt the need to push her scoring, but I think she can easily evolve into crafty veteran leader who score in a timely fashion, pushes tempo, and sets up the stars.


Very Happy Exclamation I agree.


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PostPosted: 03/26/17 10:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Elena is welcoming Spring and the upcoming WNBA season!

https://twitter.com/WashMystics/status/843844611739189248


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PostPosted: 03/28/17 12:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Delaware Express said they need a few more people to sign up for the bus trip on May 14th to watch Elena and the Mystics play.

If you know anyone in the Delaware area, please ask them to join us.


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PostPosted: 03/28/17 12:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

wnbafan wrote:
Delaware Express said they need a few more people to sign up for the bus trip on May 14th to watch Elena and the Mystics play.

If you know anyone in the Delaware area, please ask them to join us.



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PostPosted: 03/30/17 2:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

They called me today and said there are 20 people (I made 21) so it will not be cancelled.

I bought my bus ticket and then bought my game ticket.

See you on the bus! Thanks for getting the trip set up.


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PostPosted: 04/05/17 4:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So, with the entry of A.Gray and K.Davis to the draft, one mock has it going thusly:

1. SA-Plum
2. CHI-Gray
3. DAL-Coates
4. NYL-B. Jones
5. SAS-Wiese
6. WAS-Coffey
7.ATL-Davis
8. CONN- Walker Kimbrough
9. CHI-Akhator
10. DAL-A. Jones
11. LA-Osahor
12-MIN-Peterson

Given the current Styx roster with just 4 guards, how can SWK be passed up for a 3/4 like Coffee? I think Latta's best days are behind her - she did exactly what Mike T brought her in to do in energizing the roster and making this a franchise EDD would actively seek to join.

SWK has a similar skillset to Hill and with Latta still on the roster, we'd have 3 who can play PG. Given Toliver's absences to play overseas during the WNBA season, we have to keep 2 others who can play PG at all times. Given this, another option would be to take L.Allen and have one pure PG as having PG's of Cloud and Latta is not going to win many games. Remember we don't have to get as much scoring from the guards with EDD on board. Downside on Allen is she'll be left open while the defender is doubling up on EDD/Meeseman. But she can distribute the rock.



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PostPosted: 04/05/17 7:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Actually, I think Wiese would fit really well there. You're already going to be shooting a boatload of threes, so another ballhandler would be more necessary than a gazillionth wing IMO. When Cloud is on the floor teams are going to more or less ignore her, and they wouldn't be able to do that with Wiese.



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PostPosted: 04/06/17 8:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

readyAIMfire53 wrote:
So, with the entry of A.Gray and K.Davis to the draft, one mock has it going thusly:

1. SA-Plum
2. CHI-Gray
3. DAL-Coates
4. NYL-B. Jones
5. SAS-Wiese
6. WAS-Coffey
7.ATL-Davis
8. CONN- Walker Kimbrough
9. CHI-Akhator
10. DAL-A. Jones
11. LA-Osahor
12-MIN-Peterson

Given the current Styx roster with just 4 guards, how can SWK be passed up for a 3/4 like Coffee? I think Latta's best days are behind her - she did exactly what Mike T brought her in to do in energizing the roster and making this a franchise EDD would actively seek to join.

SWK has a similar skillset to Hill and with Latta still on the roster, we'd have 3 who can play PG. Given Toliver's absences to play overseas during the WNBA season, we have to keep 2 others who can play PG at all times. Given this, another option would be to take L.Allen and have one pure PG as having PG's of Cloud and Latta is not going to win many games. Remember we don't have to get as much scoring from the guards with EDD on board. Downside on Allen is she'll be left open while the defender is doubling up on EDD/Meeseman. But she can distribute the rock.


Only problem is NY does not have the #4 pick . That would be my Dallas Wings Once more after Pick #3 In which id be satisfied with both bigs in this draft !!



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PostPosted: 04/06/17 9:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

What I've seen of Nia Coffey she's mobile, has the toughness to play defense and rebound something the Mystics need more than a 5th Guard buried on the bench if the team is going to play a Golden State Warriors style of ball.


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PostPosted: 04/06/17 10:57 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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What I've seen of Nia Coffey she's mobile, has the toughness to play defense and rebound something the Mystics need more than a 5th Guard buried on the bench if the team is going to play a Golden State Warriors style of ball.


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What I've seen of Nia Coffey she's mobile, has the toughness to play defense and rebound something the Mystics need more than a 5th Guard buried on the bench if the team is going to play a Golden State Warriors style of ball.


FOUR guards. Ivory Latta has spent more time injured than playing the past 2 years. KTO has (inter)national team commitments. That leaves Cloud and Hill. Suddenly that "buried on the bench" player becomes a HIGHLY needed backup guard. Love TRP but she can't shoot and neither can Cloud. EDD & Meeseman love to shoot outside and they're both pretty good at it. But do we really need either of them to be the ONLY players hitting from outside?



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What I've seen of Nia Coffey she's mobile, has the toughness to play defense and rebound something the Mystics need more than a 5th Guard buried on the bench if the team is going to play a Golden State Warriors style of ball.


FOUR guards. Ivory Latta has spent more time injured than playing the past 2 years. KTO has (inter)national team commitments. That leaves Cloud and Hill. Suddenly that "buried on the bench" player becomes a HIGHLY needed backup guard. Love TRP but she can't shoot and neither can Cloud. EDD & Meeseman love to shoot outside and they're both pretty good at it. But do we really need either of them to be the ONLY players hitting from outside?


What the Mystics need for their new style of play is a quasi 3/4 who will rebound and play defense which will help take pressure off of EDD and Emma.


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SportsGuru wrote:
readyAIMfire53 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
What I've seen of Nia Coffey she's mobile, has the toughness to play defense and rebound something the Mystics need more than a 5th Guard buried on the bench if the team is going to play a Golden State Warriors style of ball.


FOUR guards. Ivory Latta has spent more time injured than playing the past 2 years. KTO has (inter)national team commitments. That leaves Cloud and Hill. Suddenly that "buried on the bench" player becomes a HIGHLY needed backup guard. Love TRP but she can't shoot and neither can Cloud. EDD & Meeseman love to shoot outside and they're both pretty good at it. But do we really need either of them to be the ONLY players hitting from outside?


What the Mystics need for their new style of play is a quasi 3/4 who will rebound and play defense which will help take pressure off of EDD and Emma.


Like Copper...oh, wait a minute...I actually think McCall would be a good fit in this role but #6 may be a bit high for her. With T's emphasis on fit though, she could go there.

But I do think they need another good guard as well. This year's draft is deep in guards - so at #18, Peterson, Romero, Allen, Jankoska, Epps - someone of these should still be there. Therefore, I think for their first pick they take best available, even if that is a post (which they could also use) or a 3/4 type player.



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myrtle wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
readyAIMfire53 wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
What I've seen of Nia Coffey she's mobile, has the toughness to play defense and rebound something the Mystics need more than a 5th Guard buried on the bench if the team is going to play a Golden State Warriors style of ball.


FOUR guards. Ivory Latta has spent more time injured than playing the past 2 years. KTO has (inter)national team commitments. That leaves Cloud and Hill. Suddenly that "buried on the bench" player becomes a HIGHLY needed backup guard. Love TRP but she can't shoot and neither can Cloud. EDD & Meeseman love to shoot outside and they're both pretty good at it. But do we really need either of them to be the ONLY players hitting from outside?


What the Mystics need for their new style of play is a quasi 3/4 who will rebound and play defense which will help take pressure off of EDD and Emma.


Like Copper...oh, wait a minute...I actually think McCall would be a good fit in this role but #6 may be a bit high for her. With T's emphasis on fit though, she could go there.

But I do think they need another good guard as well. This year's draft is deep in guards - so at #18, Peterson, Romero, Allen, Jankoska, Epps - someone of these should still be there. Therefore, I think for their first pick they take best available, even if that is a post (which they could also use) or a 3/4 type player.


I sorta agree with you. The Mystics should select the best available frontcourt player with the 6th selection in the 1st round then maybe select a guard in the 2nd round of the draft.


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Monica Wright of the DMV is unrestricted and unsigned. I have no idea of her current health status. She only played 4 games in the off-season.

She would fit the theme of the Mystics this season if she could get healthy.



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i'm confused, can someone please set me straight? I thought the Mystics were moving this year; yet on their schedule it shows games at the Phone Booth. ??? thanks.



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i'm confused, can someone please set me straight? I thought the Mystics were moving this year; yet on their schedule it shows games at the Phone Booth. ??? thanks.


Mystics home games will be at the Verizon Center for 2017. There's a chance the Mystics will be moving to their new home in 2018 if the venue is finish.


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i'm confused, can someone please set me straight? I thought the Mystics were moving this year; yet on their schedule it shows games at the Phone Booth. ??? thanks.



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i'm confused, can someone please set me straight? I thought the Mystics were moving this year; yet on their schedule it shows games at the Phone Booth. ??? thanks.


I doubt they started construction on that. Maybe next year?



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The Mystics will have to subtract a current roster player in order to add a drafted player.

Mystics Current Roster:
Natasha Cloud
Elena Delle Donna
Tianna Hawkins
Tayler Hill
Ivory Latta
Ally Malott
Emma Meesseman
Tierra Ruffin-Pratt
LaToya Sanders
Asia Taylor
Krystal Thomas
Kristi Toliver

The two players I see who are at risk being removed (traded or release) from the Mystics Roster are Ally Malott and Asia Thomas both play in the frontcourt. I feel the Mystics will draft at #6 a frontcourt player or trade the pick for a frontcourt player to replace Ally Malott or Asia Taylor on the teams' roster.


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The Mystics will have to subtract a current roster player in order to add a drafted player.

Mystics Current Roster:
Natasha Cloud
Elena Delle Donna
Tianna Hawkins
Tayler Hill
Ivory Latta
Ally Malott
Emma Meesseman
Tierra Ruffin-Pratt
LaToya Sanders
Asia Taylor
Krystal Thomas
Kristi Toliver

The two players I see who are at risk being removed (traded or release) from the Mystics Roster are Ally Malott and Asia Thomas both play in the frontcourt. I feel the Mystics will draft at #6 a frontcourt player or trade the pick for a frontcourt player to replace Ally Malott or Asia Taylor on the teams' roster.


Guards: Cloud, Toliver, Latta, Hill. PERIOD. Anybody else see a problem depending on these four? Of these four, not one is an ideal PG. This hole is HUMUNGOUS - clearly higher priority than anything else by a country mile.

Asia TAYLOR (not Thomas) is a 3/4. The only 3/4 who'd be better coming in is Alicia Gray and she'll be gone.

Now, if somebody wants to throw a 3/4 player to move up in the draft, the Mystics can draft the best PG in the draft Lindsey Allen. Then Hill, Toliver, Latta can do what they do best - shoot the rock.



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I highly doubt the Mystics will draft a player who hasn't been invited to the draft in the 1st round this year. The Mystics probably already have signal to WNBA Headquarters to have the Mystics jersey ready to be shown with the player on TV.

Mike Thibault wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't try to move up in the draft to select Coates or Brionna Jones if has to be Cloud, Ruffin-Pratt and /or Malott with the #6 pick so be it.


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I highly doubt the Mystics will draft a player who hasn't been invited to the draft in the 1st round this year. The Mystics probably already have signal to WNBA Headquarters to have the Mystics jersey ready to be shown with the player on TV.

Mike Thibault wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't try to move up in the draft to select Coates or Brionna Jones if has to be Cloud, Ruffin-Pratt and /or Malott with the #6 pick so be it.


Oh great. Going from just four guards to three is such a winning formula.

I was all about going for B.Jones...until I looked at the roster.

Since when does Mike T care if his pick is present at the draft????



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Toliver/Cloud
Hill/Ruffin-Pratt(defense)/Latta(three point)/#27
Delle Donne/Malott/#18
Meesseman/Hawkins/Taylor
Thomas/Sanders/BJones(if available)

Technically, Ruffin-Pratt is a 5'10 guard, so she can be used as a guard and doesn't need to be a starter


Toliver/Cloud
Hill/Latta/#18/#27
Ruffin-Pratt/Malott
Delle Donne/Sanders/Hawkins/Taylor
Meesseman/Thomas/BJones(if available)


Expendable



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PostPosted: 04/08/17 11:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Not trying to get in the whole flame war going on but I like this more

Toliver/Latta
Hill/#5 SWK/Cloud
TRP/Taylor
EDD/Sanders/Hawkins
Messeman/K. Thomas

or going the other way

Toliver/Latta
Hill/TRP/Cloud
EDD/Coffey
Messeman/Hawkins/Taylor
K. Thomas/Sanders

Or bring all the worlds together and cross fingers that B. Jones falls to #6 and L. Allen falls to #18

Toliver/L. Allen
Hill//Latta/Cloud
EDD/TRP
Messeman/Sanders/Hawkins
K. Thomas/B. Jones

Or move TRP to the 2, add Taylor at the 3 and drop Cloud


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no way big slow body on 5 will benefit. you have best spacing team in the league and one of the fastest. And want to kill main advantage with Thomas in starting line-up? Look at the direction basketball moving - spacing, 3pt, perimeter defense. Not boxing out - this is XX century fox.
Yes, you need big body, but only for short stretches, giving rest to EDD, or to change the game. And, having Sanders - I will play her over Thomas every single night.
Also with a lot of shooters, you need penetration - either TRP or Hill. Or Cloud.


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Cloud seems to be Thibault's project, so I think she stays.



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I never realized Cloud was with Maryland a year.

Quote:
Frese on Cloud: "Natasha is a very athletic and unselfish player who will do whatever her team needs to help us win. She's a strong defensive player, who can play either guard spot and is a terrific passer. Natasha has a ton of personality, is a good student and fits right in with our team."

As a Freshman (2010-11): Saw action in 31 of 32 games and started in games four thru nine... led the team in assists twice and in blocks three times... scored in 21 games... saw career-high 30 minutes at No. 13 Georgetown (Nov. 16)... made first career start against American and dished career-high seven assists (Nov. 21)... scored career-high eight points against UMass at ECU's Tournament (Nov. 27)...tied her career-high eight points on 6-for-8 shooting at the line against Appalachian State (Dec. 5)... nabbed a career-high five steals and went 6-for-8 from the line against Longwood (Jan. 30)... went 3-for-4 at the line at No. 20 Miami (Feb. 10)... hit a three that helped spark a 30-9 Maryland run late in the second half vs. No. 7 Duke (Feb. 17)...named a Scholar Athlete at the team's annual banquet.



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Shades wrote:
Toliver/Cloud
Hill/Ruffin-Pratt(defense)/Latta(three point)/#27
Delle Donne/Malott/#18
Meesseman/Hawkins/Taylor
Thomas/Sanders/BJones(if available)

Technically, Ruffin-Pratt is a 5'10 guard, so she can be used as a guard and doesn't need to be a starter


Toliver/Cloud
Hill/Latta/#18/#27
Ruffin-Pratt/Malott
Delle Donne/Sanders/Hawkins/Taylor
Meesseman/Thomas/BJones(if available)


Expendable


BIG problem playing TRP as a guard: she can't shoot and playing her at PG in this league is suicide. Cloud is marginal as PG. Playing Toliver at PG, you lose a chunk of her scoring, while scoring from outside is her strength. Latta is closing in on retirement quickly and you can't play Toliver and Latta together - unless you want opposing guards to go off in a BIG way.

Here's the deal: the Mystics have the shrimpiest backcourt in the league. Cloud's value is she's the least shrimpy and is halfway decent at PG. You simply can't compete AT ALL with this many deficits in the backcourt.



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You went from Cloud being marginal to halfway decent in the same post.

I'm sure Toliver was made some promises to lure her over including being a starter. Pencil her in as a starter.

I can't see Thibault disrespecting Hill. Pencil her in as a starter.

If TRP can't shoot, it's time to bring her off the bench. Does it matter where you slot her? Nobody claimed she could be a point guard. You already have enough people who can play PG: Toliver, Cloud, Latta.... even Hill in a pinch

Why over reach for Allen?
*Wasn't invited to the draft
*Player not invited to the draft could conceivably be available at #18
*If not Allen then numerous fifth guard worthy options may be available at #18:
Peterson(not invited), Jankoska, Romero, Epps, Sykes, Chong, Fitzgerald, Spencer, Hall, Simms



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PostPosted: 04/09/17 11:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I know Allen is local from Mitchellville, MD but I probably would go with Epps in the 2nd round over Allen if I were Mike Thibault


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Allen is only worth a 3rd round pick.



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PostPosted: 04/09/17 1:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
Allen is only worth a 3rd round pick.


She'll go in the second



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I wonder if Mike Thibault think he can get value from the #6 pick by moving back would the Sun be interested in trading the #8 and #13 for the Mystics #6 and #18 picks ?


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Shades wrote:
You went from Cloud being marginal to halfway decent in the same post.

I'm sure Toliver was made some promises to lure her over including being a starter. Pencil her in as a starter.

I can't see Thibault disrespecting Hill. Pencil her in as a starter.

If TRP can't shoot, it's time to bring her off the bench. Does it matter where you slot her? Nobody claimed she could be a point guard. You already have enough people who can play PG: Toliver, Cloud, Latta.... even Hill in a pinch

Why over reach for Allen?
*Wasn't invited to the draft
*Player not invited to the draft could conceivably be available at #18
*If not Allen then numerous fifth guard worthy options may be available at #18:
Peterson(not invited), Jankoska, Romero, Epps, Sykes, Chong, Fitzgerald, Spencer, Hall, Simms


IMHO, there's not a lot of difference between "marginal" and "halfway decent." I don't like to repeat myself.

I completely agree that there needs to be improvement at the SF position. TRP was great for a rebuilding team, doing whatever the coach asked her to do. I just think the need is so much greater in the backcourt that the team needs to find the best guard available, through the draft or trade. PG is by FAR the greatest position of need. I'm not wedded to Allen and would prefer a taller PG. But really, this newly reconstituted team needs to have someone who can get the ball to EDD & Meeseman and not turn it over. Being able to guard the opposing guard would also be nice. KTO's defense has improved immensely since college, but she'll never grow.



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Toliver will likely play the bulk of her minutes at point unless Cloud has improved substantially, but that is just fine. Look at L.A.'s numbers with her on/off the court.

Regular season: +17.8 with Toliver on the court (-4.3 with Gray)
Playoffs: +17.7 with Toliver on the court (-11.4 with Gray)

A healthy Latta is a rotation player on any team in the league. Sydney Wiese would make sense as a bigger perimeter player who can handle the ball and shoot, but a small guard would probably have no shot at cracking the rotation on this team.

Toliver/Cloud
Hill/Latta
Ruffin-Pratt/Wiese
Delle Donne/Hawkins
Meesseman/Sanders/Thomas


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SportsGuru wrote:
I wonder if Mike Thibault think he can get value from the #6 pick by moving back would the Sun be interested in trading the #8 and #13 for the Mystics #6 and #18 picks ?


Now you don't want BJones? That looks like a move you'd make if you wanted to load up on guards



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Shades wrote:
SportsGuru wrote:
I wonder if Mike Thibault think he can get value from the #6 pick by moving back would the Sun be interested in trading the #8 and #13 for the Mystics #6 and #18 picks ?


Now you don't want BJones? That looks like a move you'd make if you wanted to load up on guards


I was thinking if the player Thibault wants isn't available at #6 they could move back to #8 pick select McCall and with the #13 pick select a guard or another frontcourt player.


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Any chance the acquisition of EDD means the Mystics will stay at Verizon Center after 2017? If the demand for tickets is there? Are they locked into moving?



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