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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 01/27/17 11:28 pm ::: Trump's Supreme Court Nominee |
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Here's the place to speculate who the nominee will be, to bash him after nomination, and to root against him during the Senate confirmation process.
Yes . . . him.
Virtually all reports now say Trump has narrowed his list to three male federal Circuit Court of Appeals judges: William Pryor, Neil Gorsuch and Thomas Hardiman.
My hope is for Gorsuch. Not only is he a Columbia College and Harvard Law School guy, he also has a Ph.D. in Law from Oxford University in England. He clerked for Supreme Court Justices Whizzer White and Anthony Kennedy. Those are the best academic credentials of the troika.
Moreover, Gorsuch inches ahead of Pryor on the "Scalia-ness" scale, and both are significantly ahead of Hardiman, who happens to be a colleague of Trump's sister on the Third Circuit.
Finally, Gorsuch doesn't have the rhetorical baggage of Pryor, who called Roe v. Wade the “worst abomination in the history of constitutional law”. While his opinion may be righteously correct, it's much more helpful to have been politically correct when vying, politically, for a SCOTUS seat. |
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PUmatty
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 16359 Location: Chicago
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Posted: 01/28/17 4:55 pm ::: Re: Trump's Supreme Court Nominee |
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Because of Mitch McConnell's unprecedented unamerican actions, whoever it is will always be an illegitimate justice, and the Court will be illegitimate as long as that justice sits on the court.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 01/28/17 7:29 pm ::: Re: Trump's Supreme Court Nominee |
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PUmatty wrote: |
Because of Mitch McConnell's unprecedented unamerican actions, whoever it is will always be an illegitimate justice, and the Court will be illegitimate as long as that justice sits on the court. |
Well, then, we'll have a country where all three branches of government are illegitimate, half the country is unintelligent, unobjective and deplorable, and the other half is a bunch of intolerant and often violent whiners and crybabies.
This is known as American exceptionalism. |
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mercfan3
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Posted: 01/28/17 10:55 pm ::: Re: Trump's Supreme Court Nominee |
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PUmatty wrote: |
Because of Mitch McConnell's unprecedented unamerican actions, whoever it is will always be an illegitimate justice, and the Court will be illegitimate as long as that justice sits on the court. |
I hope to God Democrats filibuster for the next four years. That's Obama's pick.
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justintyme
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 8407 Location: Northfield, MN
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Posted: 01/28/17 11:22 pm ::: Re: Trump's Supreme Court Nominee |
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mercfan3 wrote: |
PUmatty wrote: |
Because of Mitch McConnell's unprecedented unamerican actions, whoever it is will always be an illegitimate justice, and the Court will be illegitimate as long as that justice sits on the court. |
I hope to God Democrats filibuster for the next four years. That's Obama's pick. |
The Republicans will just use the nuclear option.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 01/29/17 1:04 pm ::: Re: Trump's Supreme Court Nominee |
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Never mind. These people aren't worth it.
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norwester
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Posted: 02/01/17 1:33 pm ::: |
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Gorsuch it is.
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StevenHW
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 02/02/17 12:20 am ::: |
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I expect Trump to be making his second Supreme Court nomination next summer. |
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scullyfu
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 8860 Location: Niagara Falls
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cthskzfn
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 12851 Location: In a world where a PSYCHOpath like Trump isn't potus.
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norwester
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Posted: 02/02/17 7:03 pm ::: |
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Thought this was a good roll-up of the guy from a lesbian/feminist website I frequent. The author doesn't like the guy much, but the content of the article is pretty fair and solidly based in facts, not rhetoric (i.e. I don't know if she proved her "slimeball" case).
It also shows that confirming this guy really doesn't change the court much from how it's been (prior to Scalia's passing), and things were ok then.
It's the next nominee I'm worried about.
Neil Gorsuch Is Trump’s Nominee for Supreme Court Justice, Also a Real Slimeball
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 02/14/17 1:37 pm ::: |
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Mitch McConnell was brilliant for holding up Obama's pick based on standards that were set generations back, and there was one in particular that a sitting President doesn't get a Supreme Court pic confirmed in his last year. I had never been a fan of Mitch in the past, but this move made his existence in Congress worth it. The balance of this country would have tipped in the WRONG direction, but because of his action, we will finally return to a majority where the PEOPLE rule, here the rule of law will prevail, and where appeals courts do not have the final ruling.
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justintyme
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 8407 Location: Northfield, MN
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Posted: 02/14/17 2:22 pm ::: |
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Stonington_QB wrote: |
Mitch McConnell was brilliant for holding up Obama's pick based on standards that were set generations back, and there was one in particular that a sitting President doesn't get a Supreme Court pic confirmed in his last year. |
That is objectively false. It has been fact checked to death, and was the subject of an open letter signed by 300+ law professors of all political ideologies.
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 02/14/17 3:37 pm ::: |
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justintyme wrote: |
Stonington_QB wrote: |
Mitch McConnell was brilliant for holding up Obama's pick based on standards that were set generations back, and there was one in particular that a sitting President doesn't get a Supreme Court pic confirmed in his last year. |
That is objectively false. It has been fact checked to death, and was the subject of an open letter signed by 300+ law professors of all political ideologies. |
Sounds like a bunch of whining to me! Fact is, this is not the first time that has happened, and will not be the last. The only real outrage here is that people who disagree with President Trump's politics are not the beneficiaries this time around.
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 02/14/17 3:48 pm ::: |
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Stonington_QB wrote: |
justintyme wrote: |
Stonington_QB wrote: |
Mitch McConnell was brilliant for holding up Obama's pick based on standards that were set generations back, and there was one in particular that a sitting President doesn't get a Supreme Court pic confirmed in his last year. |
That is objectively false. It has been fact checked to death, and was the subject of an open letter signed by 300+ law professors of all political ideologies. |
Sounds like a bunch of whining to me! Fact is, this is not the first time that has happened, and will not be the last. The only real outrage here is that people who disagree with President Trump's politics are not the beneficiaries this time around. |
Ok, then list the examples on which you are relying to claim this has happened before.
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pilight
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Posted: 02/14/17 3:51 pm ::: |
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Stonington_QB wrote: |
Mitch McConnell was brilliant for holding up Obama's pick based on standards that were set generations back, and there was one in particular that a sitting President doesn't get a Supreme Court pic confirmed in his last year. I had never been a fan of Mitch in the past, but this move made his existence in Congress worth it. The balance of this country would have tipped in the WRONG direction, but because of his action, we will finally return to a majority where the PEOPLE rule, here the rule of law will prevail, and where appeals courts do not have the final ruling. |
Ronald Reagan had a Supreme Court justice confirmed during his last year in office...
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ArtBest23
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Posted: 02/14/17 4:13 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Stonington_QB wrote: |
Mitch McConnell was brilliant for holding up Obama's pick based on standards that were set generations back, and there was one in particular that a sitting President doesn't get a Supreme Court pic confirmed in his last year. I had never been a fan of Mitch in the past, but this move made his existence in Congress worth it. The balance of this country would have tipped in the WRONG direction, but because of his action, we will finally return to a majority where the PEOPLE rule, here the rule of law will prevail, and where appeals courts do not have the final ruling. |
Ronald Reagan had a Supreme Court justice confirmed during his last year in office... |
Anthony Kennedy I believe. After Bork was rejected.
FDR did in the fourth year of his third term, I believe.
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justintyme
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