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zune69
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| Faulkner averaged 8 ppg and almost 5 apg in 19 minutes last season. I wouldn't trade her unless I got a nice piece in return. She's good insurance for when Sloot is injured. |
But if SA drafts Deshields,chicago has no choice but to draft Plum(unless Mitchell declares).Now you have a log jam at point guard(Sloot,Faulkner,Plum)
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| Posted: 02/10/17 4:48 pm ::: |
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DeWanna Bonner (Phoenix)
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Camille Little PHX sign and trade
Angel McCoughtry (Atlanta)
Tanisha Wright (New York)
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Farhiya Abdi (Los Angeles)
Rebecca Allen NYL info
Valeriane Ayayi (San Antonio)
Vicki Baugh (San Antonio)
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Abby Bishop (Seattle)
Sydney Colson (San Antonio)
Anna Cruz (Minnesota)
Ana Dabovic (Los Angeles)
Clarissa Dos Santos (Chicago)
Jelena Dubljevic (Los Angeles)
Cayla George PHX info
Keisha Hampton (Minnesota)
Haley Peters (San Antonio)
Sonja Petrovic (Phoenix)
Meighan Simmons ATL info
Marianna Tolo (Los Angeles)
Erica Wheeler IND info
Marta Xargay (Phoenix)
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Kayla Alexander SAN info
Alex Bentley CON multi-year
Kelsey Bone (Phoenix)
Layshia Clarendon ATL mult-year
Elena Delle Donne WAS info
Kelly Faris CON info
Brittney Griner (Phoenix)
Sandrine Gruda (Los Angeles)
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sigur3
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| Posted: 02/10/17 4:59 pm ::: |
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Achonwa to chi for Young
Howard to chi for Faulkner & Parker |
I would do both of these without even thinking twice.
Bone for Quigley is interesting. I don't think Bone is useless like others, but we already have two centers. Unless you're proposing this trade as scenario after Dolson is traded? |
If we're just dumping Faulkner like that, we can do a hell of a lot better than Natasha Howard, especially if Parker is also in the deal.
btw, DO NOT WANT BONE. DO NOT WANT. |
Maybe I'm overvaluing Howard, assuming zune is referring to Natasha Howard that plays for the Lynx. Parker, in a sense is a throw away but she's got some tools. I think her and Faulkner are about equal, I'd give the edge to Howard on potential though.. |
I dunno man, I think Faulkner was actually the better PG than Sloot last season. Her numbers as a starter stand out big time, and she's better for the team's pace should Stocks want to play that way. She also has more trade value IMO but again, I think the Sky could get more for her than just Howard.
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| Mavcarter and Sigur3 mentioned one player they both would like to see wearing a Sky uniform and that is Jonquel Jones. How about a straight up trade of Dolson for Jones? Connecticut has a lot of power forwards and no center. |
That would be highway robbery.
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Michelle89
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| Posted: 02/10/17 5:59 pm ::: |
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| zune69 wrote: |
Achonwa to chi for Young
Howard to chi for Faulkner & Parker |
I would do both of these without even thinking twice.
Bone for Quigley is interesting. I don't think Bone is useless like others, but we already have two centers. Unless you're proposing this trade as scenario after Dolson is traded? |
If we're just dumping Faulkner like that, we can do a hell of a lot better than Natasha Howard, especially if Parker is also in the deal.
btw, DO NOT WANT BONE. DO NOT WANT. |
Maybe I'm overvaluing Howard, assuming zune is referring to Natasha Howard that plays for the Lynx. Parker, in a sense is a throw away but she's got some tools. I think her and Faulkner are about equal, I'd give the edge to Howard on potential though.. |
Why want Howard when you already have Breland. You want them to split the minutes at PF? What about Dolson? |
Howard has great upside.She just needs more PT.6.7p/3.6r/0.8a/0.7b/57%fg in only 14.6 minutes is damn good.Howard dropped 24 pts on the us national team.Sometimes getting drafted by a championship contending team is the worst thing that can happen to a young player.Howard does not have the luxury of playing through her mistakes(e.g.,E.Meeseman,G.Johnson,C.Ogwumike,M.Jefferson).The lack of rope Reeve gave Howard in gm 5 of the finals played a factor in minny not winning the championship.
Breland can play backup 4/5,unless she gets traded for a SF.
Boyette:26-28 minutes
Howard:24-26 minutes
Breland:22-24 minutes |
They still have Dolson aswell
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| Posted: 02/10/17 6:36 pm ::: |
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Interesting that one of the two cored players where we still don't know what's happening, and basically the only two RFAs left anyone gives a damn about, are all from the same team. Feels like a lot of what's left to happen is hanging on Phoenix, one way or another.
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| Posted: 02/10/17 6:39 pm ::: |
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They still have Dolson aswell |
They should trade Dolson for a SF.
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| Posted: 02/10/17 7:29 pm ::: |
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| I think it's equally interesting that only one of the cored players has been signed. I know Angel's situation is unique and I look at how quickly they signed Langhorne to suggest they're not planning to use her as a bargaining chip. But coring Little and Wright caught my by surprise. Is each of them worth a max contract at this stage of their careers? Wouldn't the fact that they have one make it even harder to trade them?
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| Posted: 02/10/17 8:50 pm ::: |
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| I really don't think Wright would agree to play elsewhere. She originally said she wanted to end her career in NY. I believe her.
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| Posted: 02/10/17 9:07 pm ::: |
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| I really don't think Wright would agree to play elsewhere. She originally said she wanted to end her career in NY. I believe her. |
See, me too. So then why core her and have to pay max?
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| Posted: 02/10/17 9:11 pm ::: |
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| I really don't think Wright would agree to play elsewhere. She originally said she wanted to end her career in NY. I believe her. |
See, me too. So then why core her and have to pay max? |
reward her with the extra money since they don't need to core Tina yet?
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Rock Hard
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| Posted: 02/10/17 9:31 pm ::: |
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| Sigur3, it would nice if for once the Sky would come out on the positive side on at least one trade. Sky management has been robbed so much that they walk around the office with their hands up and playing Easy E's song, Nobody Move, Nobody Get Hurt, for background music so they will always be ready.
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| Posted: 02/10/17 10:44 pm ::: |
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| Sigur3, it would nice if for once the Sky would come out on the positive side on at least one trade. Sky management has been robbed so much that they walk around the office with their hands up and playing Easy E's song, Nobody Move, Nobody Get Hurt, for background music so they will always be ready. |
I think, all things considered, they made out pretty well here. You're never going to get equal return for a superstar, and considering EDD basically said trade me to one team or I sit, they had no leverage in the matter. They also had a rookie GM going up against maybe the best in the league.
I would have rather had Meesseman, Hill, or 2018 pick than Dolson of course, but Copper has a huge ceiling, and depending on which juniors declare early, that #2 pick could turn out to be huge. And the good news is, we won't have to worry about more coaches getting fired unjustly or other quality players being forced out because a certain someone has ownership by the you-know-whatskies.
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zune69
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| Posted: 02/11/17 6:55 am ::: |
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Chicago better manage their assets wisely.......Holding on to players at positions of excess when you are thin at sf/pf is just idiotic.Vandersloot is a 28-32 mpg player.She's also better at running a offense than Faulkner.Boyette is a 28-32 mpg player.No need in keeping Dolson.She will be a unrestricted FA after the season.Some team(washington) will offer her a max deal.However,I wouldn't trade Faulkner until the draft just to see if Mitchell declares.
Howard's numbers were just as good as Brelands while playing less minutes.
Howard:6.7p/3.6r/0.8a/0.7b/0.6s/57%fg in 14.6
Breland:6.0p/4.4r/0.7a/1.0b/0.5s/49%fg in 17.2
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| Posted: 02/11/17 9:47 am ::: |
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Chicago would've been better off doing a 1 for 1....EDD for Meeseman.They should have held out for Emma.
G-Vandersloot
G-Pondexter
C-Boyette
F-Meeseman
F-Young
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| Posted: 02/11/17 9:50 am ::: |
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| Next season Dolson is a RFA not an UFA.
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| Posted: 02/11/17 10:04 am ::: |
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| I want the Sky management team to mature as business people so whenever they have lemons they can turn those lemons into lemonade and be able to market and sell that lemonade.
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She is pretty foul prone and IMO still has to prove that she can be effective for a full game..