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Ay Mate
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zune69
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Posted: 02/06/17 4:38 pm ::: |
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Ay Mate wrote: |
No loss imo. Kristi is gone to the Mystics. But LA has Gray who was excellent last year, they also have Riquna Williams who is better than Toliver plus the #4 draft pick. They are actually going to be a better team than last year as long as everyone stays healthy. |
Wow...are you serious ? ............Williams is a ball dominate shoot first guard.
How many games before sparks fans are screaming...."Pass Nneka the gotdamn basketball"
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Michelle89
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shontay33
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Posted: 02/06/17 4:59 pm ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
No loss imo. Kristi is gone to the Mystics. But LA has Gray who was excellent last year, they also have Riquna Williams who is better than Toliver plus the #4 draft pick. They are actually going to be a better team than last year as long as everyone stays healthy. |
Wow...are you serious ? ............Williams is a ball dominate shoot first guard.
How many games before sparks fans are screaming...."Pass Nneka the gotdamn basketball" |
I highly doubt that Williams will start. Gray did a great job last season playing point guard. Williams is better suited for the two guard because of her scoring ability which I why I see Agler using her off the bench.
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zune69
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Posted: 02/06/17 5:07 pm ::: |
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shontay33 wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Ay Mate wrote: |
No loss imo. Kristi is gone to the Mystics. But LA has Gray who was excellent last year, they also have Riquna Williams who is better than Toliver plus the #4 draft pick. They are actually going to be a better team than last year as long as everyone stays healthy. |
Wow...are you serious ? ............Williams is a ball dominate shoot first guard.
How many games before sparks fans are screaming...."Pass Nneka the gotdamn basketball" |
I highly doubt that Williams will start. Gray did a great job last season playing point guard. Williams is better suited for the two guard because of her scoring ability which I why I see Agler using her off the bench. |
Lets just hope Williams understands that she's not the #1 option.Forcing up bad shots will land her in Agler's doghouse.
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Shades
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Posted: 02/07/17 9:56 am ::: |
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My projected roster if Mitchell and DeShields declare and DAL takes Coates with #3:
DeShields picked #1 or #2
Gray/(One of Mitchell or Plum)
Carson/RWilliams
Beard/Dabovic
NOgwumike/Gruda
Parker/Lavender
Plum and Mitchell picked #1 and #2
Gray/Dabovic
Carson/RWilliams
Beard/DeShields
NOgwumike/Gruda
Parker/Lavender
I just went by Sparks roster designation for placing Parker at center. She's definitely a center on defense.... center of opposing team's offensive attention.
That's the fairly solid ten (a little shaky on Gruda). The rest would be filler from most likely foreign sources.
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zune69
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Posted: 02/07/17 10:07 am ::: |
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I'm not gonna write Williams off completely.Betty Lennox had a reputation as a high voume low assist player.Yet,Anne Donovan was able to integrate Betty's individual talents into seattle's offensive system.Betty's two best fg% seasons was with seattle.She even won finals MVP.Williams was a big factor off the bench for Tulsa in 2015.On the positive side,Riquna had the best"Per".However,she also had a 26.9 usage rate.In fact,Williams has a career usage rate of 28.5.By comparison,Toliver's usage rate in 2016 was only 18.6,and has a career usage rate of 21.6.Williams will need to curtail her game and find a happy medium.
Edit:Lennox won finals MVP under Donovan,not Agler(correction made)
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zvyn3
Joined: 20 Jul 2013 Posts: 418 Location: away from here
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Posted: 02/07/17 10:17 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
My projected roster if Mitchell and DeShields declare and DAL takes Coates with #3:
DeShields picked #1 or #2
Gray/(One of Mitchell or Plum)
Carson/RWilliams
Beard/Dabovic
NOgwumike/Gruda
Parker/Lavender
Plum and Mitchell picked #1 and #2
Gray/Dabovic
Carson/RWilliams
Beard/DeShields
NOgwumike/Gruda
Parker/Lavender
I just went by Sparks roster designation for placing Parker at center. She's definitely a center on defense.... center of opposing team's offensive attention.
That's the fairly solid ten (a little shaky on Gruda). The rest would be filler from most likely foreign sources. |
I guess the Lynx didn't give her enough offensive attention in the Finals.
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jewelsongs
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Posted: 02/07/17 10:46 am ::: |
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A day has passed and I am still "Big Mopey" about losing my favorite Spark player.
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Shades
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Posted: 02/07/17 10:58 am ::: |
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A day has passed and I am still "Big Mopey" about losing my favorite Spark player. |
You still have "Big Mopey". You're just losing "Lil Mopey" with a chance to add "Mid Mopey".
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pilight
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Posted: 02/07/17 11:11 am ::: |
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zune69 wrote: |
Betty Lennox had a reputation as a high voume low assist player.Yet,Agler was able to integrate Betty's individual talents into seattle's offensive system.Betty's two best fg% seasons was with seattle.She even won finals MVP. |
Agler was not able to do anything with Betty Lennox. She hates him, saying "Brian Agler to me is a liar and a con artist" when he shipped her out of Minnesota. She left Seattle as soon as he was named coach there. She won Finals MVP under Anne Donovan.
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zune69
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Posted: 02/07/17 11:43 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
zune69 wrote: |
Betty Lennox had a reputation as a high voume low assist player.Yet,Agler was able to integrate Betty's individual talents into seattle's offensive system.Betty's two best fg% seasons was with seattle.She even won finals MVP. |
Agler was not able to do anything with Betty Lennox. She hates him, saying "Brian Agler to me is a liar and a con artist" when he shipped her out of Minnesota. She left Seattle as soon as he was named coach there. She won Finals MVP under Anne Donovan. |
Same team,different coach.Thanks for the correction.
If Agler traded Lennox,maybe he'll trade Williams.LA acquired Riquna before the Gray and Carson acquisitions.If Riquna didn't go down with a injury,would Carson have signed a contract with the sparks ?
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jewelsongs
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Posted: 02/07/17 11:57 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
jewelsongs wrote: |
A day has passed and I am still "Big Mopey" about losing my favorite Spark player. |
You still have "Big Mopey". You're just losing "Lil Mopey" with a chance to add "Mid Mopey". |
This made me smile, but still doesn't cheer me up. Thanks for trying!
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UK1996
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Posted: 02/07/17 11:58 am ::: |
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I'd hate to have Williams running the offense. I'd throw what I could at Mitchell and see if she would be willing to come to LA. Maybe offer Monica Wright, or wait in Schimmel to be waived. SWK is the best fit and best bet for replacing Beard in the future at #4
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jap
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Posted: 02/07/17 1:47 pm ::: |
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jewelsongs wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
jewelsongs wrote: |
A day has passed and I am still "Big Mopey" about losing my favorite Spark player. |
You still have "Big Mopey". You're just losing "Lil Mopey" with a chance to add "Mid Mopey". |
This made me smile, but still doesn't cheer me up. Thanks for trying! |
Hopefully, Chelsea can pick up for Kristi as one of our premier downtown threats. She has a nice rainbow arc on her trey attempts that is very reminiscent of Tina Thompson's moon balls. Chelsea didn't shoot as many treys as she has in the past, including college, but she has potential there.
If Ana Dabovic is still going to be around, she has also shown the knack of nailing timely treys as she did in 2015.
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boom*NNEKA*nneka
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Posted: 02/07/17 3:00 pm ::: |
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Still in withdrawal over Toliver leaving. Yes, I'm happy for her and she had every right to leave, but still sad. She was so critical to our success last year, and saw her improve year after year. I will use Rebkells to start my therapy.
Toliver is a big loss, but we have personnel ready to step up. Our depth chart should look like:
PG: Gray
SG: Beard/Williams
SF: Carson/Dabovic
PF: Ogwumike/Lavender
C: Parker/Gruda
I would not mind having Belyakova back. She was injured and didn't play much, but she is a vet, which our coach likes and is a good defender. I hope that Agler gives Dabovic a little more slack as she plays great when she is given some latitude, but is completely ineffective with too many restrictions. Her defense is pretty bad, but if she can make plays on the other end, then it would offset somewhat.
I think getting a backup PG is necessary, and possibly one more big, and then the roster is good to go.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 02/07/17 5:14 pm ::: |
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Counting on Gruda to show up seems a little overconfident. She's played one-and-a-bit WNBA seasons in the last six, and it's a EuroBasket Women year.
Y'know, even ignoring how useless and disinterested she's looked in recent WNBA appearances. |
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Shades
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Posted: 02/07/17 7:06 pm ::: |
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Frese On Toliver
"As one of the nation's top point guards, Kristi is expected to do great things for us again this season. Few players have the natural stroke and court vision she has. She is able to see the floor, adapt quickly to changes in the defense and leads by example. She has a real knack for the game. Going into her senior year, Kristi has been working incredibly hard on and off the court to ensure it is as exciting and rewarding as her freshman year. I'm really excited to see how she's grown in the past three years, becoming a leader for our players both on and off the court." |
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I went to Point Guard College.
Name something you can't live without...
My PGC journal.
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Posted: 02/07/17 7:09 pm ::: |
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Tiffany Jackson-Jones is back, now with Los Angeles. Awesome.
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toad455
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Posted: 02/07/17 9:43 pm ::: |
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This team is solid. Really didn't need Toliver to stay.
PG: Gray/#4 pick
SG: Beard/Williams/Dabovic
SF: Carson/Dubljevic
PF: Ogwumike/Jackson-Jones
C: Parker/Lavender
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