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ArtBest23
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Conference records a couple weeks into the OOC season.
Conferences are listed in conf RPI order, although the rpis are not listed.
SEC 45 - 6
Pac 34 - 6
ACC 54 - 8
American Athletic 22 - 13
Big 12 26 - 6
Big East 20 - 11
Big Ten 38 - 18
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 11/23/16 1:08 am ::: |
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| B10 went 1-3 tonight with Illinois scoring a whopping 33 pts vs Mercer.
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| Posted: 11/23/16 7:22 am ::: |
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I watched the end of Wisconsin's loss to Milwaukee. Tsipsis has a lot of ground to cover.
Bollant's seat must be really hot.
MSU really struggled in a blowout loss to Oregon. Jankoska isn't getting much help.
I'm cautiously optimistic for Michigan's NCAA chances this year. We will see this week what the Wolverines are made of, as they face Gonzaga, Winthrop and Florida State - three games in three days - starting tomorrow.
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 11/23/16 10:28 am ::: |
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Conference records as of this morning.
Conferences are listed in conf RPI order, although the rpis are not listed.
SEC 50 - 6
ACC 59 - 8
PAC 38-8
American Athletic 27 - 13
Big East 24 - 12
Big Twelve 30-6
Big Ten 39 - 21
Colonial 28-12
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mildred
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| Posted: 11/23/16 11:34 pm ::: |
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Big Ten is bad. Probably cost Maryland and Ohio State a chance at a No. 1 seed. Not that they had a great chance but one of them needs to run the table in the league to have a shot.
The gap between the No. 2 team and No. 3 in the standings could be four or five games.
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| Posted: 11/24/16 2:15 am ::: |
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| mildred wrote: |
Big Ten is bad. Probably cost Maryland and Ohio State a chance at a No. 1 seed. Not that they had a great chance but one of them needs to run the table in the league to have a shot.
The gap between the No. 2 team and No. 3 in the standings could be four or five games. |
I'm not sure about Maryland, but I can't see Ohio St running the conference table. Showed too many vulnerabilities against SC.
What are your early #1 seeds: BAY, ND, SC, and UConn? Big Ten not getting a #1 seed isn't exactly shocking. The best teams will do some damage though.
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| Posted: 11/24/16 10:24 pm ::: |
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| mzonefan wrote: |
I'm cautiously optimistic for Michigan's NCAA chances this year. We will see this week what the Wolverines are made of, as they face Gonzaga, Winthrop and Florida State - three games in three days - starting tomorrow. |
So far they're looking good!
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Fighting Artichoke
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| Posted: 11/25/16 2:54 pm ::: |
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I'm cautiously optimistic for Michigan's NCAA chances this year. We will see this week what the Wolverines are made of, as they face Gonzaga, Winthrop and Florida State - three games in three days - starting tomorrow. |
So far they're looking good! |
Winthrop shouldn't provide too much resistance, but the other 2 teams should! The win over Gonzaga yesterday was excellent, both for Michigan and the B1G. But a win over Florida State will definitely put the Wolverines solidly in the top 25. I think Michigan might make the top 25 next week if they keep the Florida State game very close (or win!).
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| Posted: 11/25/16 9:15 pm ::: |
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| In NW's defense they didn't have Coffey. |
Coffey's back tonight and scoring well against Florida.
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| Posted: 11/27/16 7:24 pm ::: |
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| Rutgers won today by scoring 50 over Bryant's 42.
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| Posted: 11/29/16 5:20 pm ::: |
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Ohio State had 3 games in 3 nights. No wonder Mitchell tossed a 5-20 out. I'm not a fan of back-2-back-2-backs even for the pros (I get that it's necessary for arena schedules, but still). The UConn game should be a good test for both teams.
Maryland's Confroy is missing the 2 graduated PGs. The freshman PG Slocum looks good, just not locating their once best 3 point shooter. Staiti is worth keeping an eye on.
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| Posted: 11/30/16 11:10 am ::: |
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Ohio State had 3 games in 3 nights. No wonder Mitchell tossed a 5-20 out. I'm not a fan of back-2-back-2-backs even for the pros (I get that it's necessary for arena schedules, but still). The UConn game should be a good test for both teams.
Maryland's Confroy is missing the 2 graduated PGs. The freshman PG Slocum looks good, just not locating their once best 3 point shooter. Staiti is worth keeping an eye on. |
It must be tiring for the players, but at least all the tournament teams were in the same boat. Was the shooting bad for all the players? Perhaps McGuff could have managed her minutes better to keep her more fresh?
Playing games back-to-back-to-back is certainly difficult in college, but it's still better than the back-to-back NBA games, in which it is often only one team that has that disadvantage; all teams bear the same hardship in the college game.
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| Posted: 12/01/16 5:06 pm ::: |
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| That's something that bugs me, about the latest Big 10 conference tourney. The top teams get the freshness advantage and there's no real way for the bottom teams to pull upsets on days 3 or 4. 1 team is playing basketball, the other is swimming in molasses.
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Fighting Artichoke
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| Posted: 12/01/16 5:18 pm ::: |
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| That's something that bugs me, about the latest Big 10 conference tourney. The top teams get the freshness advantage and there's no real way for the bottom teams to pull upsets on days 3 or 4. 1 team is playing basketball, the other is swimming in molasses. |
I believe that's the byes are supposed to be the reward for having a successful regular season. There must be some reward for a team's record during the regular season, or else performing well in conference in the regular season is somewhat meaningless.
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| Posted: 12/01/16 6:56 pm ::: |
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| Fighting Artichoke wrote: |
| 5thmantheme wrote: |
| That's something that bugs me, about the latest Big 10 conference tourney. The top teams get the freshness advantage and there's no real way for the bottom teams to pull upsets on days 3 or 4. 1 team is playing basketball, the other is swimming in molasses. |
I believe that's the byes are supposed to be the reward for having a successful regular season. There must be some reward for a team's record during the regular season, or else performing well in conference in the regular season is somewhat meaningless. |
I'm of the view that a seeded folded bracket is enough of a reward. The better you do in the regular season, the weaker your opponents in the tournament.
I'm not a big fan of these double and triple byes either. That's stacking the deck too much.
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| Posted: 12/01/16 7:09 pm ::: |
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| 5thmantheme wrote: |
| That's something that bugs me, about the latest Big 10 conference tourney. The top teams get the freshness advantage and there's no real way for the bottom teams to pull upsets on days 3 or 4. 1 team is playing basketball, the other is swimming in molasses. |
I believe that's the byes are supposed to be the reward for having a successful regular season. There must be some reward for a team's record during the regular season, or else performing well in conference in the regular season is somewhat meaningless. |
I'm of the view that a seeded folded bracket is enough of a reward. The better you do in the regular season, the weaker your opponents in the tournament.
I'm not a big fan of these double and triple byes either. That's stacking the deck too much. |
I would agree that triple byes are ludicrous. If my team were the high seed, I would rather they play more games. But I'm OK with a double bye if there is no way around it, but without thinking about this much, it seems unlikely that it is necessary. I'm in favor of at most a single bye, as long as the math works out.
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| Posted: 12/02/16 6:49 pm ::: |
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| 5thmantheme wrote: |
| That's something that bugs me, about the latest Big 10 conference tourney. The top teams get the freshness advantage and there's no real way for the bottom teams to pull upsets on days 3 or 4. 1 team is playing basketball, the other is swimming in molasses. |
It's no different than the other conferences with more than 12 teams, like the ACC and the SEC.
Big 12: 10 teams; single bye
AAC: 11 teams; single bye
Pac 12: 12 teams; single bye
Big 10: 14 teams; double bye
SEC: 14 teams; double bye
ACC: 15 teams; double bye
Of the conferences I follow, I'm not aware of a triple bye playoff system. Please fill me in.
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| Posted: 12/22/16 9:15 am ::: |
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Conference play about to begin.
Maryland has played a crepe paper schedule. Will they go undefeated?
tOSU has played a murderers row. Is the Mitchell show going to provide the offense they need to win the league.
Northwestern has two losses. But is the Gonzaga game a good estimate of where they stand?
Minny will get to incorporate Fernstrom to complement Wagner and Bells perimeter play.
Indy last oks tough.
What else should fans look for in this seasons BIG play.
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| Posted: 12/22/16 11:31 am ::: |
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I'm looking for a top-four finish for Michigan. I think they can get it back to the NCAA Tournament this year.
Current Jeff Sagarin ratings:
6 Maryland
13 Michigan
19 Ohio St.
27 Iowa
35 Indiana
37 Michigan St.
40 Northwestern
59 Penn St.
62 Minnesota
80 Purdue
121 Nebraska
154 Rutgers
174 Wisconsin
193 Illinois
Massey:
5 Maryland
24 Ohio St
31 Michigan
36 Michigan St
39 Northwestern
40 Iowa
43 Indiana
58 Minnesota
63 Penn St
91 Purdue
139 Nebraska
171 Wisconsin
173 Rutgers
203 Illinois
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These ratings are inflexible algorithms that rank based on play up to date, right? They don't take into consideration injury issues or adding an impact transfer for conference play.
Minnesota is adding Fernstrom for conference play. All other things being equal, they can only get better with her addition. I would say these ratings undercut Minnesota's potential.
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| Posted: 12/22/16 1:41 pm ::: |
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These ratings are inflexible algorithms that rank based on play up to date, right? They don't take into consideration injury issues or adding an impact transfer for conference play.
Minnesota is adding Fernstrom for conference play. All other things being equal, they can only get better with her addition. I would say these ratings undercut Minnesota's potential. |
Yes, just like any other ratings such as the RPI you post, there are no crystal balls projecting potential.
Michigan is adding Abby Cole, a 6'5" three-time Volleyball All-American middle blocker who was a first time all-state basketball player in high school.
Linnae Harper just made her debut for Ohio State last week.
There are probably others getting to hit the floor for the B1G season who may also impact their teams.
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| Posted: 12/22/16 11:15 pm ::: |
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| I'm looking for a top-four finish for Michigan. I think they can get it back to the NCAA Tournament this year. |
If Michigan can't finish in the top 4 this year they should just give up the sport. This league is about as craptastic as I can ever remember. There are the top 2 and then a whole lot of "stuff".
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... I better go get my gramps a valium ready.