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PostPosted: 10/10/15 7:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Old enough to be having better quality reffereeing!!!


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PostPosted: 09/24/16 6:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10/15/16 10:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

2016 update for All-WNBA Teams

Code:
year        avg        30+      under 25

1997        28.2        4         5
1998        29.5        6         1
1999        27.3        2         4
2000        28.2        3         1
2001        27.6        3         1
2002        26.8        2         3
2003        25.1        2         7
2004        26.4        2         4
2005        28.5        4         3
2006        27.7        3         3
2007        26.7        2         2
2008        27.6        2         2
2009        28.6        3         1
2010        26.5        2         4
2011        27.5        3         2
2012        27.0        2         2
2013        27.6        3         3
2014        26.6        3         3
2015        27.3        1         1
2016        27.6        3         2



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PostPosted: 10/15/16 10:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Notice the top 6 teams are all the 6 oldest.



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PostPosted: 10/15/16 10:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Notice the top 6 teams are all the 6 oldest.


Well, no. Atlanta was a top six seed and was one of the final six playoff teams without being one of the six oldest.



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PostPosted: 10/15/16 12:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
2016 update for All-WNBA Teams

Code:
year        avg        30+      under 25

1997        28.2        4         5
1998        29.5        6         1
1999        27.3        2         4
2000        28.2        3         1
2001        27.6        3         1
2002        26.8        2         3
2003        25.1        2         7
2004        26.4        2         4
2005        28.5        4         3
2006        27.7        3         3
2007        26.7        2         2
2008        27.6        2         2
2009        28.6        3         1
2010        26.5        2         4
2011        27.5        3         2
2012        27.0        2         2
2013        27.6        3         3
2014        26.6        3         3
2015        27.3        1         1
2016        27.6        3         2


Just a note: Trading for a player 28 or older, it is clear that it is unreasonable to expect her to perform at an all-star level much longer.

Granted, there are exceptions, but in general, the younger the player, the more upside. The older, the more likely a decline.



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PostPosted: 10/15/16 8:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Granted, there are exceptions, but in general, the younger the player, the more upside. The older, the more likely a decline.

That's quite a groundbreaking piece of insight, Clay Wink



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PostPosted: 10/16/16 3:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Luuuc wrote:
ClayK wrote:
Granted, there are exceptions, but in general, the younger the player, the more upside. The older, the more likely a decline.

That's quite a groundbreaking piece of insight, Clay Wink


I keep saying this, and then some inevitably claim that I'm wrong, and that trading for a 30-year-old shooting guard will deliver three years of quality performance.



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PostPosted: 10/16/16 3:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
ClayK wrote:
Granted, there are exceptions, but in general, the younger the player, the more upside. The older, the more likely a decline.

That's quite a groundbreaking piece of insight, Clay Wink


I keep saying this, and then some inevitably claim that I'm wrong, and that trading for a 30-year-old shooting guard will deliver three years of quality performance.


It worked for Detroit when they traded for Katie Smith...



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PostPosted: 10/17/16 9:32 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
ClayK wrote:
Luuuc wrote:
ClayK wrote:
Granted, there are exceptions, but in general, the younger the player, the more upside. The older, the more likely a decline.

That's quite a groundbreaking piece of insight, Clay Wink


I keep saying this, and then some inevitably claim that I'm wrong, and that trading for a 30-year-old shooting guard will deliver three years of quality performance.


It worked for Detroit when they traded for Katie Smith...


And it will work again the future ... but the odds are against teams that roll the dice on older players.



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PostPosted: 10/17/16 5:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
http://www.swishappeal.com/2014/10/8/6946205/how-old-is-the-wnba

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Some people seem to think the Merc with Griner and Taurasi are a dynasty in the making. I don't see it.

2014 was when it peaked. 2014 was when it ended.


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PostPosted: 10/19/16 10:15 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?

Question for Clay: If 27 is the perfect age, would the same players be better at 25 or 29? (Just for that one year, not as long term investments.)
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GlennMacGrady wrote:
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?


Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:

Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters

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If 27 is the perfect age, would the same players be better at 25 or 29? (Just for that one year, not as long term investments.)


27 is the peak year on average, but individuals can vary greatly. Nikki Teasley was washed up by the time she turned 28. Sheryl Swoopes won the first of her three MVPs at 29.



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GlennMacGrady wrote:
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?

Question for Clay: If 27 is the perfect age, would the same players be better at 25 or 29? (Just for that one year, not as long term investments.)


In general, always opt for the younger player because the chance of injury is less -- but as pilight says, there's no way to know what will happen with a particular individual.



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pilight wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?


Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:

Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters


How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA.
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GlennMacGrady wrote:
pilight wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?


Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:

Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters


How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA.


The CBA has changed several times over the years, and there wasn't one until 1999. However, the youngest American born player to play in the WNBA was Quanitra Hollingsworth, who was 20 years, 203 days old when she debuted in 2009.



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PostPosted: 10/19/16 4:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
pilight wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?


Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:

Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters


How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA.


The CBA has changed several times over the years, and there wasn't one until 1999. However, the youngest American born player to play in the WNBA was Quanitra Hollingsworth, who was 20 years, 203 days old when she debuted in 2009.


Didn't know that. How was she able to play under the CBA rules?



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toad455 wrote:
pilight wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
pilight wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?


Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:

Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters


How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA.


The CBA has changed several times over the years, and there wasn't one until 1999. However, the youngest American born player to play in the WNBA was Quanitra Hollingsworth, who was 20 years, 203 days old when she debuted in 2009.


Didn't know that. How was she able to play under the CBA rules?


She used up all of her collegiate eligibility. She skipped two grades and graduated high school at 15.



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PostPosted: 06/13/17 6:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hey Pilight!

Would you have information on the average age of each team for 2017?

Btw, do you compile this yourself or is that information already compiled somewhere?


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WfanFrJmp wrote:
Hey Pilight!

Would you have information on the average age of each team for 2017?

Btw, do you compile this yourself or is that information already compiled somewhere?


I compile it myself.

Usually I wait until the season is over so I can do weighted averages.



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Gotcha! Thanks for responding Smile


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PostPosted: 09/06/17 9:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thanks pilight ...

As far as athletes go, the evidence in all sports is pretty clear: Don't trust anyone over 27.



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PostPosted: 09/06/17 9:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Thanks pilight ...

As far as athletes go, the evidence in all sports is pretty clear: Don't trust anyone over 27.


That's why I don't trust anybody on the Lynx, except Natasha Howard, Alexis Jones, Temi Fagbenle, & Cecilia Zandalasini. Smile


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PostPosted: 09/06/17 4:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
Thanks pilight ...

As far as athletes go, the evidence in all sports is pretty clear: Don't trust anyone over 27.


Which is below the average age of the two best teams in the league.


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