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Posted: 10/10/15 7:05 am ::: |
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Old enough to be having better quality reffereeing!!!
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pilight
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pilight
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Posted: 10/15/16 10:04 am ::: |
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2016 update for All-WNBA Teams
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year avg 30+ under 25
1997 28.2 4 5
1998 29.5 6 1
1999 27.3 2 4
2000 28.2 3 1
2001 27.6 3 1
2002 26.8 2 3
2003 25.1 2 7
2004 26.4 2 4
2005 28.5 4 3
2006 27.7 3 3
2007 26.7 2 2
2008 27.6 2 2
2009 28.6 3 1
2010 26.5 2 4
2011 27.5 3 2
2012 27.0 2 2
2013 27.6 3 3
2014 26.6 3 3
2015 27.3 1 1
2016 27.6 3 2
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toad455
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Posted: 10/15/16 10:32 am ::: |
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Notice the top 6 teams are all the 6 oldest.
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pilight
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Posted: 10/15/16 10:34 am ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
Notice the top 6 teams are all the 6 oldest. |
Well, no. Atlanta was a top six seed and was one of the final six playoff teams without being one of the six oldest.
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ClayK
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Posted: 10/15/16 12:14 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
2016 update for All-WNBA Teams
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year avg 30+ under 25
1997 28.2 4 5
1998 29.5 6 1
1999 27.3 2 4
2000 28.2 3 1
2001 27.6 3 1
2002 26.8 2 3
2003 25.1 2 7
2004 26.4 2 4
2005 28.5 4 3
2006 27.7 3 3
2007 26.7 2 2
2008 27.6 2 2
2009 28.6 3 1
2010 26.5 2 4
2011 27.5 3 2
2012 27.0 2 2
2013 27.6 3 3
2014 26.6 3 3
2015 27.3 1 1
2016 27.6 3 2
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Just a note: Trading for a player 28 or older, it is clear that it is unreasonable to expect her to perform at an all-star level much longer.
Granted, there are exceptions, but in general, the younger the player, the more upside. The older, the more likely a decline.
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SDHoops
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Posted: 10/17/16 5:38 pm ::: |
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http://www.swishappeal.com/2014/10/8/6946205/how-old-is-the-wnba
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Some people seem to think the Merc with Griner and Taurasi are a dynasty in the making. I don't see it. |
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2014 was when it peaked. 2014 was when it ended.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 10/19/16 10:15 am ::: |
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Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?
Question for Clay: If 27 is the perfect age, would the same players be better at 25 or 29? (Just for that one year, not as long term investments.) |
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pilight
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Posted: 10/19/16 10:25 am ::: |
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Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game? |
Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:
Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters
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If 27 is the perfect age, would the same players be better at 25 or 29? (Just for that one year, not as long term investments.) |
27 is the peak year on average, but individuals can vary greatly. Nikki Teasley was washed up by the time she turned 28. Sheryl Swoopes won the first of her three MVPs at 29.
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ClayK
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Posted: 10/19/16 12:52 pm ::: |
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GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game?
Question for Clay: If 27 is the perfect age, would the same players be better at 25 or 29? (Just for that one year, not as long term investments.) |
In general, always opt for the younger player because the chance of injury is less -- but as pilight says, there's no way to know what will happen with a particular individual.
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GlennMacGrady
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Posted: 10/19/16 3:06 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game? |
Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:
Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters
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How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA. |
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pilight
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Posted: 10/19/16 3:32 pm ::: |
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GlennMacGrady wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game? |
Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:
Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters
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How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA. |
The CBA has changed several times over the years, and there wasn't one until 1999. However, the youngest American born player to play in the WNBA was Quanitra Hollingsworth, who was 20 years, 203 days old when she debuted in 2009.
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toad455
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Posted: 10/19/16 4:08 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
GlennMacGrady wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game? |
Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:
Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters
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How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA. |
The CBA has changed several times over the years, and there wasn't one until 1999. However, the youngest American born player to play in the WNBA was Quanitra Hollingsworth, who was 20 years, 203 days old when she debuted in 2009. |
Didn't know that. How was she able to play under the CBA rules?
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Posted: 10/19/16 4:16 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
GlennMacGrady wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
GlennMacGrady wrote: |
Who is the youngest player ever to play a WNBA game? |
Maria Stepanova, who was 19 years, 108 days old when she debuted in 1998. Five other players have debuted at age 19:
Liz Cambage
Astou Ndour
Bernadette Ngoyisa
Kristen Veal
Ann Wauters
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How about the youngest American player -- that is, a player who was not eligible for the WNBA as an "international player" under Article VIII(1)(d) of the CBA. |
The CBA has changed several times over the years, and there wasn't one until 1999. However, the youngest American born player to play in the WNBA was Quanitra Hollingsworth, who was 20 years, 203 days old when she debuted in 2009. |
Didn't know that. How was she able to play under the CBA rules? |
She used up all of her collegiate eligibility. She skipped two grades and graduated high school at 15.
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Posted: 06/13/17 6:27 pm ::: |
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Hey Pilight!
Would you have information on the average age of each team for 2017?
Btw, do you compile this yourself or is that information already compiled somewhere?
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pilight
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Posted: 06/13/17 7:03 pm ::: |
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WfanFrJmp wrote: |
Hey Pilight!
Would you have information on the average age of each team for 2017?
Btw, do you compile this yourself or is that information already compiled somewhere? |
I compile it myself.
Usually I wait until the season is over so I can do weighted averages.
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ClayK
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Posted: 09/06/17 9:04 am ::: |
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Thanks pilight ...
As far as athletes go, the evidence in all sports is pretty clear: Don't trust anyone over 27.
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PUmatty
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Posted: 09/06/17 4:20 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
Thanks pilight ...
As far as athletes go, the evidence in all sports is pretty clear: Don't trust anyone over 27. |
Which is below the average age of the two best teams in the league.
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