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PostPosted: 09/21/16 9:29 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

are these ESPNEWS games also on ESPN3? My provider doesn't list ESPNEWS and I'd hate to miss these games today.



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PostPosted: 09/27/16 8:51 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

9/24 Phoenix vs New York NBATV 81,000
9/25 Atlanta vs Chicago ESPN2 126,000

Sunday's game ran against the early NFL window, which averaged 19,168,000 viewers on FOX and 13,088,000 viewers on CBS. The World Cup of Hockey on ESPN at the same time averaged 297,000 viewers. Basketball Wives LA aired two new episodes on Sunday night that averaged 1,091,000 and 1,446,000 viewers. In other women's sports competition, a college volleyball tripleheader on ESPNU averaged 45,000 + 23,000 + 53,000 viewers and the late NWSL game averaged 47,000 viewers on FS1.


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PostPosted: 09/29/16 8:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

9/28 Phoenix vs Minnesota ESPN2 292,000
9/28 Chicago vs Los Angeles ESPN2 237,000

The MVP press conference averaged 29,000 viewers in 10 minutes of coverage on NBATV.


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PostPosted: 09/30/16 9:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

These seem like good numbers, even though the games weren't very good.

Lisa Borders was quoted as saying TV ratings are out, but I haven't seen any hard numbers. Are there any out there?



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PostPosted: 09/30/16 8:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ClayK wrote:
These seem like good numbers, even though the games weren't very good.

Lisa Borders was quoted as saying TV ratings are out, but I haven't seen any hard numbers. Are there any out there?


Not to belabor a point but I wouldn't trust a thing Lisa Borders says without independent verification. What I am having a hard time figuring out is why the attendance levels of the playoff games so far are so much lower than the team averages this year. Let's hope for more entertaining games (no matter who wins). Parity is one of the WNBA's strengths.


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PostPosted: 10/01/16 8:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Regarding the Mystics attendance discussion up above, Leonsis said in an article sometime ago that some of the Mystics attendance numbers are based on sponsors who buy up some of those empty seats. Not sure why the seats would stay empty in that scenario, or even if that's the truth. If it is the truth though, wouldn't that be a reason to stay put rather than move? If a published attendance is indicative of ticket sales to sponsors, that's still 3,000 more tickets being "sold" than would be in the new building. That's a head scratcher to me.



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PostPosted: 10/04/16 9:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

10/02 Los Angeles vs Chicago ESPN 178,000
10/02 Minnesota vs Phoenix ESPN 243,000

If you're wondering why Friday's games were not on the big two channels... ESPN's broadcasts during that time averaged 1,015,000 for a pregame show and 3,333,000 for the game. Baseball on ESPN2 averaged 584,000 and then football averaged 579,000.

The NWSL semifinals on FS1 averaged 63,000 on Friday and 105,000 on Sunday.

The MLS game before the Game 3s averaged 220,000 on ESPN. For competition, the early NFL timeslots averaged 16,446,000 on CBS and 11,231,000 on FOX while the late FOX timeslot averaged 22,697,000. Basketball Wives averaged 1,678,000 on Sunday.

Women's college sports on Sunday averaged 73,000 on ESPN2 and 28,000 and 29,000 on ESPNU.

If you wondered what preseason NBA games average on NBATV, the first one on Saturday averaged 232,000 while Sunday night's game averaged 77,000. Monday's afternoon game, which also featured one non-NBA team averaged 74,000 while the night games averaged 140,000 and 96,000.


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PostPosted: 10/05/16 1:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

One other big event that day, the Ryder Cup averaged 4.3 million over its 6 hours on Sunday and peaked at 6.4 million viewers from 5-5:15 pm on NBC.


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PostPosted: 10/05/16 1:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

josephkramer44 wrote:
Parity is one of the WNBA's strengths.


I know... I just love the parity Minnesota has been enjoying the past 6 years.


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PostPosted: 10/05/16 8:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

10/04 Los Angeles vs Chicago ESPN2 198,000

On ESPN, the NBA preseason game at the same time averaged 770,000 and the game after averaged 1,202,000.


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PostPosted: 10/05/16 8:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

awhom111 wrote:
10/04 Los Angeles vs Chicago ESPN2 198,000

On ESPN, the NBA preseason game at the same time averaged 770,000 and the game after averaged 1,202,000.

That's depressing. Preseason's basically unwatchable garbage basketball, often played in large part by guys you'll barely see during the regular season. And five times as many people still wanted to watch it over a WNBA playoff game.



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PostPosted: 10/05/16 8:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
josephkramer44 wrote:
Parity is one of the WNBA's strengths.


I know... I just love the parity Minnesota has been enjoying the past 6 years.


That statement is very hard to argue with. I think Glenn Taylor has gone with the idea that you have to spend money to make money. From what I have gathered on this board and from other people the Lynx players are treated better and given better facilities, more attention and other perks (as oppose to teams like the Mystics). That might be why the Lynx attract good players. The Lynx might continue their domination for a long time too; if Glenn Taylor makes it appealing to play for them.

However even their attendance for their two playoff games was abysmal. Having been in the Excel center many times for hockey games I know the lower level does not seat 9,000 people and much of it appeared to be empty (as well as the skyboxes) for both of the games, especially the first one. Minnesota is also very hungry for professional sports success. As far as the big four go the last time a Minnesota team won a championship was 1991 (baseball Twins).


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PostPosted: 10/05/16 8:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

josephkramer44 wrote:
As far as the big four go the last time a Minnesota team won a championship was 1991 (baseball Twins).


And they had to cheat to get that one



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PostPosted: 10/05/16 8:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
josephkramer44 wrote:
As far as the big four go the last time a Minnesota team won a championship was 1991 (baseball Twins).


And they had to cheat to get that one


I was too young to understand much of what was going on in 1991. What was the controversy behind that one please? I don't recall one but I was too young to know a whole lot aside from a home run and getting to home plate.


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PostPosted: 10/05/16 9:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

josephkramer44 wrote:
pilight wrote:
josephkramer44 wrote:
As far as the big four go the last time a Minnesota team won a championship was 1991 (baseball Twins).


And they had to cheat to get that one


I was too young to understand much of what was going on in 1991. What was the controversy behind that one please? I don't recall one but I was too young to know a whole lot aside from a home run and getting to home plate.

LMAO.

We had a bobble head made of that moment. Hrbek is considered a 4 letter word in Atlanta.

Look up Hrbek and Gant 91 world series.



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PostPosted: 10/05/16 9:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

josephkramer44 wrote:
pilight wrote:
josephkramer44 wrote:
As far as the big four go the last time a Minnesota team won a championship was 1991 (baseball Twins).


And they had to cheat to get that one


I was too young to understand much of what was going on in 1991. What was the controversy behind that one please? I don't recall one but I was too young to know a whole lot aside from a home run and getting to home plate.


That Fat Pig Hrbek wrestled Ron Gant off of first base



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PostPosted: 10/05/16 11:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Richyyy wrote:
awhom111 wrote:
10/04 Los Angeles vs Chicago ESPN2 198,000

On ESPN, the NBA preseason game at the same time averaged 770,000 and the game after averaged 1,202,000.

That's depressing. Preseason's basically unwatchable garbage basketball, often played in large part by guys you'll barely see during the regular season. And five times as many people still wanted to watch it over a WNBA playoff game.


Consider also that the Orioles vs BlueJays wild card game drew 4,195,000, and WWE Smackdown drew 2,316,000. But at least all of those events were live.

Perhaps the most depressing is that a 9pm replay of a UFC fight from last February on FS1 drew 253,000.


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PostPosted: 10/07/16 2:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Something to note about the NFL numbers, they are freaking out about how bad their numbers are...

http://deadspin.com/nfl-memo-blames-plummeting-tv-ratings-on-presidential-e-1787539401



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PostPosted: 10/10/16 1:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

http://www.hoopfeed.com/content/2016/10/10/espn-2016-wnba-finals-game-1-delivers-best-overnight-rating-since-2010/

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Game 1 of the 2015 WNBA Finals, which aired Sunday, Oct. 9, on ABC, delivered a 0.5 overnight rating, the best since 2010. The matchup between the Minnesota Lynx and the Los Angeles Sparks resulted in a +25 percent increase from last year’s Game 1.



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PostPosted: 10/10/16 2:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is that good or bad? Does it being broadcast on a major network rather than ESPN or ESPN2 help a lot? With it being broadcast on a Sunday does that make a difference if it was done on Friday or Saturday (obviously it does during the regular work week)?

pilight wrote:
http://www.hoopfeed.com/content/2016/10/10/espn-2016-wnba-finals-game-1-delivers-best-overnight-rating-since-2010/

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Game 1 of the 2015 WNBA Finals, which aired Sunday, Oct. 9, on ABC, delivered a 0.5 overnight rating, the best since 2010. The matchup between the Minnesota Lynx and the Los Angeles Sparks resulted in a +25 percent increase from last year’s Game 1.


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PostPosted: 10/10/16 3:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

josephkramer44 wrote:
Is that good or bad? Does it being broadcast on a major network rather than ESPN or ESPN2 help a lot? With it being broadcast on a Sunday does that make a difference if it was done on Friday or Saturday (obviously it does during the regular work week)?

pilight wrote:
http://www.hoopfeed.com/content/2016/10/10/espn-2016-wnba-finals-game-1-delivers-best-overnight-rating-since-2010/

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Game 1 of the 2015 WNBA Finals, which aired Sunday, Oct. 9, on ABC, delivered a 0.5 overnight rating, the best since 2010. The matchup between the Minnesota Lynx and the Los Angeles Sparks resulted in a +25 percent increase from last year’s Game 1.


Game 3 of Min/Phx had 243,000 and that was 0.2. So, 0.5 would be 607,500 viewers.

I wonder what the NWSL championship ratings were. They had 8,255 attendance for a neutral site game in Houston between two east coast teams. Didn't look very full on TV though.


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PostPosted: 10/10/16 3:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Lol at the wnba playing three card monte with the ratings.Of course the ratings went up.The game was nationally televised on ABC,as opposed to being on a cable network(espn).Lets just call the ratings what they were....Pathetic.


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PostPosted: 10/10/16 3:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If up 25% over last year's broadcast on ABC is considered pathetic, I guess I'll take pathetic. Hard for me to see it as anything but a positive.

Plus, these extra 25% saw a excellent game.


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PostPosted: 10/10/16 3:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

zune69 wrote:
Lol at the wnba playing three card monte with the ratings.Of course the ratings went up.The game was nationally televised on ABC,as opposed to being on a cable network(espn).Lets just call the ratings what they were....Pathetic.


Last year's Game 1 was also on ABC



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PostPosted: 10/10/16 3:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
zune69 wrote:
Lol at the wnba playing three card monte with the ratings.Of course the ratings went up.The game was nationally televised on ABC,as opposed to being on a cable network(espn).Lets just call the ratings what they were....Pathetic.


Last year's Game 1 was also on ABC


Well then I stand corrected.I thought last year's game 1 was on ESPN.


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