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Richyyy
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For the first month or so of the season video auto-played every time you looked at a boxscore. Presumably enough of us complained that they finally changed that, but it would've helped out their 'video views'.
And if they're counting every gif or Vine that's clicked on in their tweets, then of course the views have gone through the roof. They're posting a vaastly bigger volume of them. |
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| Posted: 08/02/16 7:17 am ::: |
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| They practically give away League Pass. One wonders how elastic that demand is.
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| Posted: 08/02/16 7:55 am ::: |
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| ESPN ratings are up 100%?? How bad were the numbers last season?
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| Posted: 08/02/16 9:17 am ::: |
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| ESPN has seen household ratings increase 100 percent over last year and 23 percent among viewers. |
I think that means that of the households watching TV when a WNBA game is shown, the percentage watching the WNBA game has gone up 100%, while the amount of people watching the WNBA game has gone up 23 percent. So either fewer people are watching TV, or more people are watching online or On Demand and don't get counted.
2009 269,000
2011 270,000
2012 180,000
2013 231,000
2014 240,000
2015 202,000
2016 248,460 = (202,000 * 1.23)
From this thread for this year:
5/14 Phoenix vs Minnesota ESPN 505,000
5/24 Los Angeles vs Chicago ESPN2 167,000
5/31 Minnesota vs New York ESPN2 246,000
6/7 New York vs Los Angeles ESPN2 168,000
6/14 Indiana vs Minnesota ESPN2 217,000
6/21 Phoenix vs Dallas ESPN2 230,000
6/29 Dallas vs Los Angeles ESPN2 185,000
7/5 Chicago vs Minnesota ESPN2 232,000
7/19 Los Angeles vs Indiana ESPN2 154,000
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awhom111
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| Posted: 08/02/16 8:44 pm ::: |
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7/29 USA vs Canada NBATV 113,000
7/31 USA vs Australia NBATV 119,000
The Men's exhibition after the Canada game averaged 294,000 viewers.
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toad455
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| Posted: 08/03/16 9:06 am ::: |
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http://www.excellesports.com/news/metrics-show-people-watching-wnba-season/
in this article it states the same thing, but also notes that league attendance is up by 2.3% from last season. That's basically the difference from the Stars moving back to the AT&T Center. Anyone have attendance numbers up to date??
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awhom111
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| Posted: 08/10/16 10:44 pm ::: |
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NBC PR reports that Sunday's game averaged 1.7 million viewers.
I am not a big fan of just taking what network PR says, but there is no other way of getting the numbers. NBC opted to code their cable Olympic coverage in giant blocks, so the only numbers available are for more than just the game.
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awhom111
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| Posted: 08/29/16 8:39 pm ::: |
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8/26 New York vs San Antonio NBATV 36,000
8/26 Los Angeles vs Seattle NBATV 39,000
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 08/29/16 9:05 pm ::: |
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8/26 New York vs San Antonio NBATV 36,000
8/26 Los Angeles vs Seattle NBATV 39,000 |
Compare to football in the same time slots on the same Friday night. Keep in mind these are secondary leagues, preseason NFl, HS, and a bad college game. Just wait until it's NFL regular season and meaningful college games:
Canadian Football League game, ESPN2 - 53,000
High School Football, ESPNU - 59,000
Arena Football League championship game, ESPN - 413,000
College Football, Cal vs Hawaii from Australia, ESPN - 782,000
NFL preseason game, NFL Network - 918,000
Tough to gain a lot of traction or growth now that football season has begun.
BTW, BELLATOR MMA LIVE on Spike drew 725,000 viewers Friday night.
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ClayK
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| Posted: 08/30/16 9:40 am ::: |
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8/26 New York vs San Antonio NBATV 36,000
8/26 Los Angeles vs Seattle NBATV 39,000 |
Compare to football in the same time slots on the same Friday night. Keep in mind these are secondary leagues, preseason NFl, HS, and a bad college game. Just wait until it's NFL regular season and meaningful college games:
Canadian Football League game, ESPN2 - 53,000
High School Football, ESPNU - 59,000
Arena Football League championship game, ESPN - 413,000
College Football, Cal vs Hawaii from Australia, ESPN - 782,000
NFL preseason game, NFL Network - 918,000
Tough to gain a lot of traction or growth now that football season has begun.
BTW, BELLATOR MMA LIVE on Spike drew 725,000 viewers Friday night. |
A different marketing campaign is not going to impact these numbers much at all. Let's say that better ads -- if there were some -- increased viewership by 10%, a pretty impressive performance for an ad.
That would push the NBA-TV numbers just above 40,000. What the WNBA need to be considered a major sport is an increase by a factor of 10 (1,000%). I don't see any marketing program making that kind of difference ...
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| Posted: 08/30/16 8:28 pm ::: |
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8/27 Washington vs Indiana NBATV 34,000
8/28 Connecticut vs Atlanta NBATV 37,000
8/28 Seattle vs Minnesota ESPN2 220,000
8/28 Los Angeles vs Phoenix ESPN2 233,000
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awhom111
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| Posted: 08/31/16 8:40 pm ::: |
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| 8/30 Phoenix vs Indiana NBATV 47,000
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awhom111
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| Posted: 09/06/16 8:25 pm ::: |
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9/1 New York vs Indiana NBATV 25,000
9/2 Seattle vs Chicago NBATV 40,000
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 09/06/16 11:49 pm ::: |
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| awhom111 wrote: |
9/1 New York vs Indiana NBATV 25,000
9/2 Seattle vs Chicago NBATV 40,000 |
Tough to compete for sportsfans eyeballs now that it's football season
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South Carolina vs Vandy ESPN 1,942,000
Patriots vs Giants preseason game NFLN 1,071,000
Indiana vs FIU ESPNU 211,000
Plus there were games on BTN, SECN, PACN, CBSSN, etc.
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KSt vs Stanford FoxSp1. 1,358,000
Colorado vs ColSt ESPN. 1,073,000
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ClayK
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| Posted: 09/07/16 9:58 am ::: |
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9/1 New York vs Indiana NBATV 25,000
9/2 Seattle vs Chicago NBATV 40,000 |
The surprising one here is New York. Good team, big city, basketball town, yet really only a rounding error watching the game.
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| Posted: 09/07/16 10:16 am ::: |
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9/1 New York vs Indiana NBATV 25,000
9/2 Seattle vs Chicago NBATV 40,000 |
The surprising one here is New York. Good team, big city, basketball town, yet really only a rounding error watching the game. |
awhom probably should run a footnote with each post. Something like:
*This game was also shown on MSG+, FSI, and League Pass, the viewer numbers for which I am not reporting.
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| Posted: 09/07/16 4:14 pm ::: |
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| BTW, just as a point of reference, the ND vs Texas football game on Sunday night delivered 10.9 million viewers (the largest audience on the opening weekend of the season, regardless of network, since at least 1995).
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awhom111
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| Posted: 09/07/16 8:44 pm ::: |
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9/3 Phoenix vs New York NBATV 37,000
9/4 Washington vs Dallas NBATV 53,000
9/4 Indiana vs Los Angeles NBATV 48,000
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| awhom111 wrote: |
9/1 New York vs Indiana NBATV 25,000
9/2 Seattle vs Chicago NBATV 40,000 |
The surprising one here is New York. Good team, big city, basketball town, yet really only a rounding error watching the game. |
awhom probably should run a footnote with each post. Something like:
*This game was also shown on MSG+, FSI, and League Pass, the viewer numbers for which I am not reporting. |
Obviously in-market, you have to watch the local broadcast, but how far out do those markets extend, especially compared to NBA ones? What options does someone in Las Vegas have to watch the Sparks? How about New Mexico and the Mercury?
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awhom111
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| Posted: 09/08/16 7:56 pm ::: |
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9/6 Minnesota vs Los Angeles ESPN2 214,000
For reference, Wednesday's NWSL game averaged 76,000 viewers on FS1.
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| Posted: 09/09/16 9:18 am ::: |
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| I think its fair to say that womens basketball is ahead of womens soccer on the niche sports scale. I actually watched a little of that NWSL game, and the bigger field highlights the fact that the women are not as fast or as strong as the men. In basketball, the smaller court size tends to minimize that difference, though it still obvious.
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| Posted: 09/13/16 8:30 pm ::: |
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9/11 New York vs Dallas NBATV 22,000
9/11 Los Angeles vs Seattle NBATV 47,000
For reference, Sunday night's NWSL game averaged 60,000 viewers on FS1.
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| Posted: 09/13/16 10:11 pm ::: |
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| For more reference, Sunday Night Football between the Patriots and Cardinals on the 11th on NBC drew 20.65 million ( which was down quite a bit from the previous two years).
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awhom111
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| Posted: 09/14/16 8:15 pm ::: |
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9/13 Minnesota vs Chicago ESPN2 265,000
9/13 Phoenix vs Los Angeles NBATV 61,000
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 09/14/16 9:42 pm ::: |
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For reference
9/13 World Cup of Hockey (Finland vs US) ESPN - 439,000
9/13 WWE Smackdown (pro wrestling) USA Network - 2.66 millon
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