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GlennMacGrady



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PostPosted: 06/18/16 5:07 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

awhom111 wrote:
58-46 exhibition win over France with Aquira DeCosta leading the way:
http://www.fibalivestats.com/u/FFBB/301022/index_en_AU.html


DeCosta dominant in scoring, rebounding and FTA's.

Maya Dodson dominant in minutes played and also had the most assists.

Poor 3PA and 3PM stats.
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PostPosted: 06/19/16 12:00 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In general, there are two stats that matter for American international teams: three-point percentage and turnovers.

14% and 26.

Not good news ...



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awhom111



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PostPosted: 06/20/16 8:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There is no boxscore, but the United States needed a huge comeback to beat Australia 70-67 in the last exhibition:
http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2016/06/wu17-scrimmage-v-australia.aspx

I am not sure what to think about the result. It is good to see the fightback, but such a big deficit is surprising even if the Gems are supposed to be very good, especially with Magbegor.

This is generally considered a very wide open tournament and those who follow this sort of thing do not even necessarily consider the United States among the favorites. I have even heard someone suggest that finishing third in their group would not be out of the question.


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PostPosted: 06/21/16 12:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

US plays Korea tomorrow at 2:30 pm. Info is at http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016.

Looks like live streaming is on the FIBA YouTube channel, and maybe at the above website.


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PostPosted: 06/21/16 5:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Here's a link to FIBA's Youtube page with the live feed for all of Wednesday's games, including US-Korea. The games start at 7:45 am Eastern time (I think) with Australia vs Mexico.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCXERy73Oiz-7dCmW6JYaKrM2GYhORBlf


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PostPosted: 06/21/16 7:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Here's a link to FIBA's Youtube page with the live feed for all of Wednesday's games, including US-Korea. The games start at 7:45 am Eastern time (I think) with Australia vs Mexico.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCXERy73Oiz-7dCmW6JYaKrM2GYhORBlf


Thanks, Art.


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PostPosted: 06/21/16 8:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Direct links for the first day (times Eastern):
Australia vs Mexico, 7:45am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3eG8V9EyQ
Latvia vs Japan, 8:15am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTkcinrVIHY
France vs China, 10:00am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUyevvh6qys
Spain vs Portugal, 10:30am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU-44TBcB_A
Italy vs Czech Republic, 12:15pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKKu3YeItFw
Nigeria vs Canada, 12:45pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY5cARalLhk
United States vs South Korea 2:30pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp2IUuErPHg
Brazil vs Mali 3:00pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78BM5UdBK00

Those links should also be good for replays after the game is over.

The two all-European games should both be very good matchups.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 10:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well color me surprised. As the 3rd Q comes to a close, China leads France by 4.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 10:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

And China blows out France, opening up a 20 pt lead on the way to a 12 pt win.

This China team looks pretty solid.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 11:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Spain and Portugal tied with eight minutes to go. Good game

It's amazing they show these games at all. Seems to be around 300 youtube viewers. I assume that's the worldwide total.

Picture is great. No announcers, play by play, or commentary.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 12:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Nigerian team was denied necessary visas for travel to Spain so they are missing the tournament and forfeiting their games.

No idea what the issue is but feel sorry for the girls who are probably victims of incompetence or politics or both.

France evidently suffers Clay's "US syndrome". Way too many turnovers (29), and lousy 3pt shooting (27% vs China's 47%) resulting in an unexpected loss.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 1:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

USA - S Korea underway. Size-wise the Koreans look like 5th graders compared to the US.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 1:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In the early going, this US team looks like a classic Pat Summit team. Can't shoot, but they play defense and dominate the backboards.

Against Korea that looks like it may be enough.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 1:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Interesting approach. On one possession the US got five shots of five feet or less, missed them all, finally got fouled and got the chance to make free throws.

That's one approach I guess. If you can keep getting offensive boards until a shot finally goes in or you get fouled, you can probably score enough to win.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 2:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Middle of second quarter US leads 41--20.

Key stat - US holds a 32-13 rebounding edge.

32 rebounds in 15 minutes of play. Wow.

US is also 0-4 from behind the arc.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 2:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Middle of second quarter US leads 41--20.

Key stat - US holds a 32-13 rebounding edge.

32 rebounds in 15 minutes of play. Wow.

US is also 0-4 from behind the arc.


Sounds just like the Tenn LV formula for success Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 3:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nigeria is notorious for players birth year chicanery.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 3:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

US beats Korea 104-45.
US shoots 51% on 2s, a whopping 11% (1/9) on 3s.
US has 24 turnovers, forces 15.
But - here's the biggie - US outrebounds Korea 85-28, including 33 offensive rebounds.

I'm not sure I've ever heard of a team having 85 rebounds in a game before.


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 7:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Game story and boxscore for the Korea game: http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2016/06/wu17-game-01-v-kor.aspx


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 9:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rest of the boxscores:
http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016/2206/Latvia-Japan#|tab=boxscore_statistics
http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016/2206/Australia-Mexico#|tab=boxscore_statistics
http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016/2206/France-China#|tab=boxscore_statistics
http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016/2206/Italy-Czech-Republic#|tab=boxscore_statistics
http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016/2206/Spain-Portugal#|tab=boxscore_statistics
http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016/2206/Brazil-Mali#|tab=boxscore_statistics

The biggest upset may not have been China over France but Mali over Brazil instead. Brazil has three players in high school/AAU in North Carolina.

Precious Ogbuta of Nigeria should have just decided to show up anyway. She goes to Allen in Texas and was actually part of the USA tryout roster. That reminds me T.J. Leaf missing out on the U19 Men's Team last year and then going to play for the country of his birth, Israel, instead. Nigeria's fans probably wanted the one American defection of the summer to be Victor Oladipo though.

All of the YouTube links are up for the group stage games now. I will only link up the next day's games to avoid confusion. Without Nigeria, there are only three games on Thursday (times Eastern):
Mexico vs France, 7:45am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3NADiS8mec
China vs Australia, 8:15am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGhQ5KLh8VA
Canada vs Latvia, 10:30am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbQXxAOc_d4


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PostPosted: 06/22/16 9:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

awhom111 wrote:


The biggest upset may not have been China over France but Mali over Brazil instead. Brazil has three players in high school/AAU in North Carolina.


Mali led virtually the entire game and by 11 at the half. This wasn't a fluke. They went out and beat 'em.


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PostPosted: 06/23/16 2:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
awhom111 wrote:


The biggest upset may not have been China over France but Mali over Brazil instead. Brazil has three players in high school/AAU in North Carolina.


Mali led virtually the entire game and by 11 at the half. This wasn't a fluke. They went out and beat 'em.


And Brazil beat the US last year ...



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PostPosted: 06/23/16 8:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There were only three games today with no Nigeria. France beat Mexico and Australia beat China in the other group pretty handily. Canada finally got to play their first game and they had to come back to take Latvia to overtime before winning.

Direct links for Friday's games (times Eastern):

USA vs Czech Republic, 8:15am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcZ7qNSTSm4
South Korea vs Italy, 7:45am: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQOeif0Jlxc
Portugal vs Brazil, 12:15pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaGHJl6ZTjY
Mali vs Spain, 12:45pm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO13Zjjf0F4


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PostPosted: 06/24/16 9:11 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

US won 72-63.

Most remarkable stat today - 143 combined shots
US was 27/71, Czechs were 19/72.

Of course lots of missed shots means lots of rebounding opportunities - 97 combined, with US having a 56-41 edge.

27 turnovers today for the US.


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PostPosted: 06/24/16 9:27 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

USA-Czech boxscore: http://www.fiba.com/world/u17women/2016/2406/Czech-Republic-USA#|tab=boxscore_statistics


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