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toad455
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StevenHW
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Posted: 06/25/15 12:46 pm ::: |
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Seattle and Quebec City used to have hockey teams --- the Seattle Metropolitans was with the old PCHL --- but, IMHO, the NHL has too many teams (30) as it is.
Even more bizarre is...why Vegas? Did the NHL not learn after the Phoenix Coyote's troubles?
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toad455
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Posted: 06/26/15 4:42 pm ::: |
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Yeah, 30 should be the max for the NHL. But these expansion fees are crazy and that's what the league sees - $$$$$$. Realistically, the Coyotes should move to Las Vegas, the Florida Panthers to Quebec City & put Seattle on the back burner for now. Seattle would need a new arena anyway for an NHL team, which is likely 4-5 years away if it passes.
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Posted: 07/27/15 10:03 pm ::: |
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where to put Quebec City??
http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/07/27/nhl-expansion-teams-quebec-city-las-vegas-conference-alignment
a possible all-Canadian division could possibly happen.
Canadian Division:
Vancouver
Edmonton
Winnipeg
Calgary
Toronto
Montreal
Ottawa
Quebec City
Western Division:
San Jose
Anaheim
Los Angeles
Phoenix
Las Vegas
Dallas
Colorado
Minnesota
Central Division:
St. Louis
Chicago
Nashville
Columbus
Detroit
Buffalo
Tampa Bay
Florida
North Division:
Boston
New York Rangers
Brooklyn Islanders
New Jersey
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Washington
Carolina
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toad455
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Posted: 07/27/15 10:24 pm ::: |
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there's also talk of the NHL abandoning the current8 team divisions and separating everyone into 8 divisions of 4 teams each. The problem with this is it forces either Detroit or Columbus into the Western conference:
Western Conference:
Canada West: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg
Central: Chicago, Columbus, St. Louis, Nashville
Pacific: Anaheim, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Jose
Southwest: Arizona, Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota
Eastern Conference:
Canada East: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, Toronto
Atlantic: New Jersey, Philadelphia, NY Islanders, NY Rangers
North: Boston, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Detroit
Southeast: Carolina, Florida, Tampa Bay, Washington
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Hawkeye
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Posted: 06/22/16 5:02 pm ::: |
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Las Vegas officially in, will start in 2017-18 season and be in the Pacific Division. West now has 15 teams, East has 16. I expect the 32nd to come soon and fill in the Central. I'm SO hoping Houston gets #32 but I'm not holding my breath...Les Alexander hasn't shown much interest since he got matched and lost the Edmonton Oilers.
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toad455
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Posted: 06/22/16 6:03 pm ::: |
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You have to wonder if they're still looking at Seattle. The Seattle group dropped out of this expansion bidding process. Quebec may be on the back burner in case a team needs to relocate. The city is more ready than Las Vegas.
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Posted: 06/22/16 7:35 pm ::: |
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Not officially stated by the NHL, but reports are saying a 32nd team will be arriving shortly as well. I imagine Quebec could be one of them, but the league specifically wants another Western team so Detroit doesn't have to move West.
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Posted: 11/16/16 10:07 am ::: |
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So Seattle as the 32nd team & Quebec City gets a relocation team? Carolina? Florida?
Western Conference:
Canada West: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg
Central: Chicago, Minnesota, Detroit, St. Louis
Pacific: Anaheim, Los Angeles, San Jose, Seattle
Southwest: Arizona, Colorado, Dallas, Las Vegas
Eastern Conference:
Canada East: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, Toronto
Atlantic: New Jersey, Boston, NY Islanders, NY Rangers
North: Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Columbus
Southeast: Carolina, Tampa Bay, Washington, Nashville
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toad455
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Posted: 07/14/17 2:30 pm ::: |
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Carolina Hurricanes officially put up for sale today. I'd say team ends up in Quebec by 2019-2020 season. 32nd team likely to be Seattle assuming a new arena gets built.
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Hawkeye
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Posted: 07/14/17 2:48 pm ::: |
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toad455 wrote: |
Carolina Hurricanes officially put up for sale today. I'd say team ends up in Quebec by 2019-2020 season. 32nd team likely to be Seattle assuming a new arena gets built. |
The NHL is NOT going back to Quebec. If and that's a BIG if the 'Canes move, it will be to an American city. Houston, Seattle and Kansas City would be the top 3 markets. Houston is the biggest market in the US and Canada without an NHL team and Seattle is close behind. Kansas City is a distant 3rd to these 2. Quebec City is a non-starter.
That all said, the present owner of the Hurricanes is looking hard for a local owner and reports are he's found one that wants to keep the team in North Carolina, as he also owns minor league baseball teams in the state and region.
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StevenHW
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Posted: 07/14/17 6:31 pm ::: |
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2017/07/14/carolina-hurricanes-500-million-sale-is-fake-news/#55eae5bb6090
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Yes, Chuck Greenberg is trying to buy the money-losing NHL franchise. But all Greenberg has right now is a non-binding letter of intent. Moreover, the real price (enterpise value) is nowhere near $500 million (perhaps the $500 million includes future money the potential buyer is promising to put into the team?), according to my sources.
And by the way, Greenberg is not even close to raising the money to buy the Hurricanes. Not even for $400 million. |
Chuck Greenberg is a former owner of the MLB's Texas Rangers. He purchased the Rangers in August 2010 (along with Nolan Ryan), and then stepped down just before the 2011 season began.
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