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PostPosted: 09/23/15 3:47 pm    ::: Shoni Schimmel 2015-16 Off-Season Thread Reply Reply with quote

I'm sure that a lot of fans and even not-so-fans are interested in what Shoni will be doing this off-season, so here we go.

Here's a link to the Dream's top 10 plays of 2015, with Shoni featured in #s 4, 3, and 2:

http://dream.wnba.com/video/top-10-plays-of-2015/

Please post intel here - Is she playing overseas? Working out with Skylar Diggins' personal trainer?


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PostPosted: 09/23/15 10:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

That Schimmel pass at #3 is one of the best u will see. She makes a ton of mistakes but there are few in this league (if any) with her flair


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PostPosted: 09/23/15 11:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

chadb wrote:
That Schimmel pass at #3 is one of the best u will see. She makes a ton of mistakes but there are few in this league (if any) with her flair


Exactly right!


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PostPosted: 09/24/15 11:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Only thing I'm interested in seeing is if she comes back again next season a lard ass like she did this year.

There's soooo much hype surrounding her and she has yet to live up to 5% of it. She's a big "who cares" for me.


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PostPosted: 09/24/15 12:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

whitedudeluvswnba wrote:
Only thing I'm interested in seeing is if she comes back again next season a lard ass like she did this year.

There's soooo much hype surrounding her and she has yet to live up to 5% of it. She's a big "who cares" for me.


To me, she's exceeded expectations. Wasn't expecting much as a rookie, but she came in to start at PG and set a record for assists in the first 4 games of a season, plus she scored MVP of the All Star game. Was hoping for more her second year, but you know Cooper isn't exactly Stephie White.



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PostPosted: 09/25/15 12:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I still don't get all the hype and popularity


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PostPosted: 09/25/15 1:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't get all the people that automatically disliked her.


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I don't get all the people that can't understand that most of her popularity comes from a disadvantaged community who needed someone to inspire them and represent them and Shoni went out there, and spoke to that community and said numerous time she was proud to be part of that community and she was going to represent her community with her style of basketball ("rezball"). The Native American community gathered together from all across the country to support her...so much so it would have been impossible for the media to ignore. Then there's white people (or non native American people) such as myself, who just find her fun to watch. She's not everyone's cup of tea, I get that, but she brings much needed new fans with her and I can't see how that's a bad thing.


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all i need from her this off season is for her to get in shape. she could be good player if she really worked on her game and body.



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PostPosted: 09/25/15 3:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

IMO Schimmel is an exciting likable player. She does some flashy things and has a lot of moxie. I think because of her popularity people expect her to be a superstar talent, usually only superstar players are as popular as she is. So her popularity sets up an unfair expectation for some fans, and creates some backlash against her. If you view her in the context of being a number eight pick in the draft who just finished her 2nd season she is about where she should be career-wise.


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PostPosted: 09/25/15 4:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I don't get all the people that can't understand that most of her popularity comes from a disadvantaged community who needed someone to inspire them and represent them and Shoni went out there, and spoke to that community and said numerous time she was proud to be part of that community and she was going to represent her community with her style of basketball ("rezball"). The Native American community gathered together from all across the country to support her...so much so it would have been impossible for the media to ignore. Then there's white people (or non native American people) such as myself, who just find her fun to watch. She's not everyone's cup of tea, I get that, but she brings much needed new fans with her and I can't see how that's a bad thing.


She certainly has a block of support from that community, but your last reason is important.

I have no built in affinity for her or her former school or her current team. Indeed, I didn't much like her when she was at Louisville. But I just happen to find her entertaining. She plays an exciting brand of basketball that few people in the WNBA play. Yeah, she makes turnovers, but she also makes "wow" plays that not many other make. I think that's great. And that's why I like her. Is she necessarily the best player for leading a team to a title? Very possibly not. Would I want her on my team? Maybe not. But she sure is fun to watch play. I'd rather watch a game with her in it than many others.

In the end, it's entertainment, and she's entertaining.


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PostPosted: 09/25/15 4:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
AAOK423 wrote:
I don't get all the people that can't understand that most of her popularity comes from a disadvantaged community who needed someone to inspire them and represent them and Shoni went out there, and spoke to that community and said numerous time she was proud to be part of that community and she was going to represent her community with her style of basketball ("rezball"). The Native American community gathered together from all across the country to support her...so much so it would have been impossible for the media to ignore. Then there's white people (or non native American people) such as myself, who just find her fun to watch. She's not everyone's cup of tea, I get that, but she brings much needed new fans with her and I can't see how that's a bad thing.


She certainly has a block of support from that community, but your last reason is important.

I have no built in affinity for her or her former school or her current team. Indeed, I didn't much like her when she was at Louisville. But I just happen to find her entertaining. She plays an exciting brand of basketball that few people in the WNBA play. Yeah, she makes turnovers, but she also makes "wow" plays that not many other make. I think that's great. And that's why I like her. Is she necessarily the best player for leading a team to a title? Very possibly not. Would I want her on my team? Maybe not. But she sure is fun to watch play. I'd rather watch a game with her in it than many others.

In the end, it's entertainment, and she's entertaining.


I agree, and I think those are the reasons why her popularity and hype should not be such a mystery to people. Shoni is not a lot of things and waiting around for her to become those things may end up being a failed effort, but what she does bring to this league is an excitement and a flair that is uniquely her own. And hopefully she can bring that next season.


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PostPosted: 09/26/15 1:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

AAOK423 wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
AAOK423 wrote:
I don't get all the people that can't understand that most of her popularity comes from a disadvantaged community who needed someone to inspire them and represent them and Shoni went out there, and spoke to that community and said numerous time she was proud to be part of that community and she was going to represent her community with her style of basketball ("rezball"). The Native American community gathered together from all across the country to support her...so much so it would have been impossible for the media to ignore. Then there's white people (or non native American people) such as myself, who just find her fun to watch. She's not everyone's cup of tea, I get that, but she brings much needed new fans with her and I can't see how that's a bad thing.


She certainly has a block of support from that community, but your last reason is important.

I have no built in affinity for her or her former school or her current team. Indeed, I didn't much like her when she was at Louisville. But I just happen to find her entertaining. She plays an exciting brand of basketball that few people in the WNBA play. Yeah, she makes turnovers, but she also makes "wow" plays that not many other make. I think that's great. And that's why I like her. Is she necessarily the best player for leading a team to a title? Very possibly not. Would I want her on my team? Maybe not. But she sure is fun to watch play. I'd rather watch a game with her in it than many others.

In the end, it's entertainment, and she's entertaining.


I agree, and I think those are the reasons why her popularity and hype should not be such a mystery to people. Shoni is not a lot of things and waiting around for her to become those things may end up being a failed effort, but what she does bring to this league is an excitement and a flair that is uniquely her own. And hopefully she can bring that next season.


Well said, AAOK and ArtBest. Shoni is always going to be a hero in Native American communities, no matter how well she plays, and the support she enjoys from those communities is always going to give her media attention, no matter how well she plays. You can't call that media attention undeserved, and you can't call Shoni a media hog or someone who is claiming to be a much better player than she is. She gets the media attention she does because of how she has chosen to embrace her Native American heritage, not because she goes around saying, "I am the greatest."

Like everyone else, I hope she stays in shape during the offseason so that she can play to her potential, whatever that potential may be.


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Well some of those ASG votes and popularity come from the native american community, I will never take that away from her

She of all players SHOULD play overseas to stay in shape and learn the game...she's the one who doesnt.

will say 99.99% of the players if they showed up as overweight in training camp as schimmel did would have been waived and not picked up...ever...as tough as cooper got on her for that (I mean that was shawn Kemp level weight gain) she also basically got a 4th chance when players as good as her don't even get a legit first

to me it almost reminds me of brian bosworth. she does have some talent but yeah, she's as much a part of Atlanta's woes as anything, if she pulls the same crap this year there is no reason for her to be on the roster.

she put it together late, but she should be playing for her job...and well instead has it almost handed to her...that's a bad combo



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Happycappie25 wrote:
Well some of those ASG votes and popularity come from the native american community, I will never take that away from her

She of all players SHOULD play overseas to stay in shape and learn the game...she's the one who doesnt.

will say 99.99% of the players if they showed up as overweight in training camp as schimmel did would have been waived and not picked up...ever...as tough as cooper got on her for that (I mean that was shawn Kemp level weight gain) she also basically got a 4th chance when players as good as her don't even get a legit first

to me it almost reminds me of brian bosworth. she does have some talent but yeah, she's as much a part of Atlanta's woes as anything, if she pulls the same crap this year there is no reason for her to be on the roster.

she put it together late, but she should be playing for her job...and well instead has it almost handed to her...that's a bad combo


I don't completely disagree with you, especially on the weight issue and her need to play overseas but out of curiosity, what are the 4 chances you referring to other than her getting on a roster being overweight? So, what are the other 3, that I assume you don't believe she earned.


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PostPosted: 09/26/15 3:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

AAOK423 wrote:
Happycappie25 wrote:
Well some of those ASG votes and popularity come from the native american community, I will never take that away from her

She of all players SHOULD play overseas to stay in shape and learn the game...she's the one who doesnt.

will say 99.99% of the players if they showed up as overweight in training camp as schimmel did would have been waived and not picked up...ever...as tough as cooper got on her for that (I mean that was shawn Kemp level weight gain) she also basically got a 4th chance when players as good as her don't even get a legit first

to me it almost reminds me of brian bosworth. she does have some talent but yeah, she's as much a part of Atlanta's woes as anything, if she pulls the same crap this year there is no reason for her to be on the roster.

she put it together late, but she should be playing for her job...and well instead has it almost handed to her...that's a bad combo


I don't completely disagree with you, especially on the weight issue and her need to play overseas but out of curiosity, what are the 4 chances you referring to other than her getting on a roster being overweight? So, what are the other 3, that I assume you don't believe she earned.


I expect she made the roster and played because she was better than alternatives nothwithstanding being in less than optimal shape - just like Adams, and Appel, and Paris and Mosqueda-Lewis. None of them were "waived and not picked up."


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PostPosted: 09/27/15 12:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shoni made the highlight reel for a defensive play! (even if it was against small Maggie Lucas)


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PostPosted: 09/27/15 6:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If she doesnt want to play overseas then all she has to do is get a trainer and work out during the summer and just watch what your eating. It is not that hard if you are motivated enough



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PostPosted: 09/27/15 7:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
AAOK423 wrote:
Happycappie25 wrote:
Well some of those ASG votes and popularity come from the native american community, I will never take that away from her

She of all players SHOULD play overseas to stay in shape and learn the game...she's the one who doesnt.

will say 99.99% of the players if they showed up as overweight in training camp as schimmel did would have been waived and not picked up...ever...as tough as cooper got on her for that (I mean that was shawn Kemp level weight gain) she also basically got a 4th chance when players as good as her don't even get a legit first

to me it almost reminds me of brian bosworth. she does have some talent but yeah, she's as much a part of Atlanta's woes as anything, if she pulls the same crap this year there is no reason for her to be on the roster.

she put it together late, but she should be playing for her job...and well instead has it almost handed to her...that's a bad combo


I don't completely disagree with you, especially on the weight issue and her need to play overseas but out of curiosity, what are the 4 chances you referring to other than her getting on a roster being overweight? So, what are the other 3, that I assume you don't believe she earned.


I expect she made the roster and played because she was better than alternatives nothwithstanding being in less than optimal shape - just like Adams, and Appel, and Paris and Mosqueda-Lewis. None of them were "waived and not picked up."


3 you mention are posts, which is a bit more forgiving to girth...KML is a rookie who they're feeling out. Indeed KML is the closest example we have, it will be interesting to see how the 2 pan out

i was talking more about overall in game performance on the 4 chances and agree that may have been a bit harsh...Will agree she improved greately at the end of this year but i haven't been overall impressed by her except in exhibitions for her entire career.

We will see what she does this off season but i do think she was lucky to make a roster as out of shape she was. Honestly why I got up to 4 was as out of it she looked at the NBA ASG was enough to draw major concern.

As for playing overseas it's as much developing skills for a young player as it is conditioning...sometimes you just need to play at a high level

we will see how this goes...but im less optomistic than others



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I don't care whether Shoni plays overseas or not as long as she's working on her game and staying in shape. Elena Delle Donne just won MVP and she's never played overseas.



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pilight wrote:
I don't care whether Shoni plays overseas or not as long as she's working on her game and staying in shape. Elena Delle Donne just won MVP and she's never played overseas.


i agree



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Michelle89 wrote:
pilight wrote:
I don't care whether Shoni plays overseas or not as long as she's working on her game and staying in shape. Elena Delle Donne just won MVP and she's never played overseas.


i agree


I kinda don't. Elena is not Shonni. Shonni needs to do more then to just be in better shape, she needs to work on her decision making as a PG if she wants to be know as more then just an exciting player. Experience playing is really the best way to do that.



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caune wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
pilight wrote:
I don't care whether Shoni plays overseas or not as long as she's working on her game and staying in shape. Elena Delle Donne just won MVP and she's never played overseas.


i agree


I kinda don't. Elena is not Shonni. Shonni needs to do more then to just be in better shape, she needs to work on her decision making as a PG if she wants to be know as more then just an exciting player. Experience playing is really the best way to do that.



Skylar, Elena, Kara Lawson...there are good examples of people that hired trainers and worked on their games and bodies here. Shoni would be an asset to the league promoting the game during the winter, but she has to continue to build her game like those others did.


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Lisa Leslie never played overseas, but every winter she would work on her game in LA, and came back the next summer with an added wrinkle.

If Shoni does that, playing overseas isn't that important. But if she does exhibitions and doesn't try to get better -- regardless of her weight -- then she's wasting crucial parts of what could be a pretty special career.



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dtsnms wrote:
caune wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
pilight wrote:
I don't care whether Shoni plays overseas or not as long as she's working on her game and staying in shape. Elena Delle Donne just won MVP and she's never played overseas.


i agree


I kinda don't. Elena is not Shonni. Shonni needs to do more then to just be in better shape, she needs to work on her decision making as a PG if she wants to be know as more then just an exciting player. Experience playing is really the best way to do that.



Skylar, Elena, Kara Lawson...there are good examples of people that hired trainers and worked on their games and bodies here. Shoni would be an asset to the league promoting the game during the winter, but she has to continue to build her game like those others did.


True. But it appears (based on college & WNBA) that Shoni needs to be playing to maintain conditioning. It would be great if she was able to do what Skylar & EDD & some others do/did. But even in college she didn't stay in shape over off-season.


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I'm not convinced playing in Turkey or Hungary or whatever refines one's point guard skills.

She'd likely be better off working with a coach and trainer here.


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ArtBest23 wrote:
I'm not convinced playing in Turkey or Hungary or whatever refines one's point guard skills.

She'd likely be better off working with a coach and trainer here.




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I believe Sloot used a trainer after her first WNBA season (or was it after her second season?), but she seems to be developing well playing her last couple of seasons in Poland (with Quigley).



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I think part of the problem for Shoni is that when she is not playing, she is in demand for basketball camps, and is visiting Native American communities where she is more or less a rock star. Under these circumstances it would be pretty easy to let conditioning slide. So for that reason, I'd love to see her playing somewhere overseas. Now it would be great if she could do both - play overseas and do the work in her community, but I don't know if that's possible. Next season may be make or break for her - if she comes back to camp like next year, she may be let go.


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PostPosted: 10/20/15 3:51 pm    ::: Shoni playing in Israel? Reply Reply with quote

Here's the Atlanta Dream's official report as of Oct. 20 on players overseas.


http://dream.wnba.com/news/dream-overseas-report-oct-20/

Interesting that for Shoni, the Dream simply references a 10/14 story from the Louisville Courier Journal saying that it is "possible" that Shoni will play in Israel.

Does this mean that the Dream has no idea whether she will or won't and therefore has to rely on other sources? Or maybe the Dream already knows that it's a no go?


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She and Jude have already started doing some speaking events at reservations and schools so id guess its probably not happening. I believe Jeff Walz was the one to originally make the comment about Israel, may have just spoke t0o soon. They may have change their mind considering all the violence going on over their right now. If the season starts on the 26th I suppose we will find out soon enough whether their going or not.


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https://instagram.com/p/9E22oivov5/

Might be the answer to the overseas question.


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PostPosted: 10/20/15 10:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

AAOK423 wrote:
https://instagram.com/p/9E22oivov5/

Might be the answer to the overseas question.


I guess this confirms she's not playing overseas again.



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toad455 wrote:
AAOK423 wrote:
https://instagram.com/p/9E22oivov5/

Might be the answer to the overseas question.


I guess this confirms she's not playing overseas again.


Id say this is a good indication she's not in Israel right now, beyond that its just an assumption.


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If Shoni wanted to play with Jude as a package, that would really cut down on the options because of the positional fit in the presence of foreign player restrictions. It would have been cool to see the sisters Schimmel and Anne Marie Armstrong team up together in Israel or something though.

I am still undecided on all of these teams' overseas reports. It is good to keep the fans informed, but it is also a constant reminder that we can't keep all of the players here during the offseason. If the players spend more of the year and get paid more overseas, are they really WNBA players playing overseas or overseas players playing in the WNBA?


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If Shoni wanted to play with Jude as a package, that would really cut down on the options because of the positional fit in the presence of foreign player restrictions. It would have been cool to see the sisters Schimmel and Anne Marie Armstrong team up together in Israel or something though.

I am still undecided on all of these teams' overseas reports. It is good to keep the fans informed, but it is also a constant reminder that we can't keep all of the players here during the offseason. If the players spend more of the year and get paid more overseas, are they really WNBA players playing overseas or overseas players playing in the WNBA?


Sounded like they would be satisfied just playing in the same league.... not necessarily the same team.



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awhom111 wrote:
I am still undecided on all of these teams' overseas reports. It is good to keep the fans informed, but it is also a constant reminder that we can't keep all of the players here during the offseason. If the players spend more of the year and get paid more overseas, are they really WNBA players playing overseas or overseas players playing in the WNBA?

It's still WNBA players playing overseas. Because the status of being a WNBA player is what makes them such a hot commodity overseas. And I'm sure it shows in the jobs and amount of money they get as opposed to non wnba players. Them being a star in Israel/Poland/wherever doesn't mean that much to most when they sign to a WNBA team.



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toad455 wrote:
AAOK423 wrote:
https://instagram.com/p/9E22oivov5/

Might be the answer to the overseas question.


I guess this confirms she's not playing overseas again.


Dream website has 10-26-15 update on players overseas. No mention of Shoni.


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I had to do a double-take when I saw this was at UCONN.



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Schimmel is one of the players that I will never give up on. Just like I didn't give up on Bently and Zealous. Look where they are now. One improves so much in 2015, the other had won MIP in 2012 with a championship ring to her name.

I just hope Schimmel knows what she's doing. I expect that she eventually goes overseas but if she chooses to stay, so be it. She needs to be working out and be strict on her diet, wherever she is. If she could just build some muscles and step up on her defensive play, I think 2016 could be her breakthrough year.


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PostPosted: 11/05/15 4:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I didn't know exactly where to put this, but since Shoni did post it on her twitter (during the off season) I suppose this is a good as place as any. Jude got to moderate a panel at the White House Tribal Nations Conference between native youth and President Obama.

The President takes a brief moment to compliment Jude on her basketball skill and mentions how her and Shoni have made Indian country proud.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/2015-white-house-tribal-nations-conference


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PostPosted: 11/05/15 6:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michael V Pearson wrote:
Schimmel is one of the players that I will never give up on. Just like I didn't give up on Bently and Zealous. Look where they are now. One improves so much in 2015, the other had won MIP in 2012 with a championship ring to her name.

I just hope Schimmel knows what she's doing. I expect that she eventually goes overseas but if she chooses to stay, so be it. She needs to be working out and be strict on her diet, wherever she is. If she could just build some muscles and step up on her defensive play, I think 2016 could be her breakthrough year.

Why would you give up on any of them? They are in the league. They are getting all the opportunities they can get to succeed or fail. It's not giving up on players that are not in the league that everyone else has seemingly given up on. That's a true fan.



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PostPosted: 11/05/15 6:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

AAOK423 wrote:
toad455 wrote:
AAOK423 wrote:
https://instagram.com/p/9E22oivov5/

Might be the answer to the overseas question.


I guess this confirms she's not playing overseas again.


Id say this is a good indication she's not in Israel right now, beyond that its just an assumption.


It would be interesting if she did play in Israel since friends who did not know much about her asked me if she is Jewish.



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PostPosted: 11/05/15 6:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When a player does not put an effort like a professional is expected to put on, you start to think they are not serious and commited enough to be in the league. The feels fall out sometimes. But what do I know? I'm not with them 24/7, I don't know their daily routine. I got my info from social media and they don't owe me anything. I can't tell them what to do, it's their responsibilities. As a fan that's how I feel. You don't get to say who's a true fan or not, true fan is not defined.


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PostPosted: 11/05/15 6:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michael V Pearson wrote:
When a player does not put an effort like a professional is expected to put on, you start to think they are not serious and commited enough to be in the league. The feels fall out sometimes. But what do I know? I'm not with them 24/7, I don't know their daily routine. I got my info from social media and they don't owe me anything. I can't tell them what to do, it's their responsibilities. As a fan that's how I feel. You don't get to say who's a true fan or not, true fan is not defined.

I guess I was speaking more about Bentley and Zellous. Especially Bentley who has always had at least moderate success and has never been cut.



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Bentley has been good lately. She was an all star for the first time and at one point, we thought that the Sun was the contender to beat. Shoni and ATL not so much. As much as I'm still bitter that Bentley was traded, I think it is the right move for Shoni to be traded. Not because ATL doesn't want her, but the fact that she has more value to others. Maybe she can go west to Minny or Phoenix. I'm a major advocate of these two team so I'm a little bit bias. I'm all about keeping Shoni at the west.


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PostPosted: 11/08/15 7:52 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Even Jude Schimmel is marketable in Nike's eyes.




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PostPosted: 11/08/15 8:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
Even Jude Schimmel is marketable in Nike's eyes.



I thought it was Shoni at first look. Good for Jude. Looks like she's staying at home. I guess Shoni's not going oversea this offseason.


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PostPosted: 11/08/15 2:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I see Jude running for public office some day - maybe soon.


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Randy wrote:
I see Jude running for public office some day - maybe soon.


Several questions; Is she political? What level of office?


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