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pilight
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mavcarter #NATC
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jlight
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Posted: 03/27/14 8:17 pm ::: |
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Offensive Rating
1. Maya Moore-MIN 123.5
2. Elena Delle Donne-CHI 120.1
3. Sylvia Fowles-CHI 118.1
4. Nneka Ogwumike-LAS 118.0
5. Erlana Larkins-IND 117.7
6. Seimone Augustus-MIN 113.4
7. Diana Taurasi-PHO 113.1
8. Erika de Souza-ATL 111.8
9. Elizabeth Cambage-TUL 111.6
10. Epiphanny Prince-CHI 111.4
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any body know what this means.
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Shades
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tbinta
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Posted: 03/27/14 8:24 pm ::: |
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jlight wrote: |
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Offensive Rating
1. Maya Moore-MIN 123.5
2. Elena Delle Donne-CHI 120.1
3. Sylvia Fowles-CHI 118.1
4. Nneka Ogwumike-LAS 118.0
5. Erlana Larkins-IND 117.7
6. Seimone Augustus-MIN 113.4
7. Diana Taurasi-PHO 113.1
8. Erika de Souza-ATL 111.8
9. Elizabeth Cambage-TUL 111.6
10. Epiphanny Prince-CHI 111.4
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ORtg
Offensive Rating (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); for players it is points produced per 100 posessions, while for teams it is points scored per 100 possessions.
glossary on site
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Richyyy
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Posted: 03/27/14 9:20 pm ::: |
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'Offensive and Defensive rating' are a lot more complicated for individuals than teams, though, under their formulas. There's a load more detail about it here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ratings.html
It includes, for the offensive part:
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The basic building blocks of the Offensive Rating calculation are Individual Total Possessions and Individual Points Produced. The formula for Total Possessions is broken down into four components: Scoring Possessions, Missed FG Possessions, Missed FT Possessions, and Turnovers. |
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The core of the Defensive Rating calculation is the concept of the individual Defensive Stop. Stops take into account the instances of a player ending an opposing possession that are tracked in the boxscore (blocks, steals, and defensive rebounds), in addition to an estimate for the number of forced turnovers and forced misses by the player which aren't captured by steals and blocks. |
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soyouthink
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Posted: 03/27/14 11:05 pm ::: |
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No PER this year.
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soyouthink
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Posted: 03/27/14 11:07 pm ::: |
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And was Tina Charles really all wnba second team last year or is that a mistake?
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SpaceJunkie
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Posted: 03/27/14 11:08 pm ::: |
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soyouthink wrote: |
And was Tina Charles really all wnba second team last year or is that a mistake? |
Yes, she was.
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jlight
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Posted: 03/27/14 11:12 pm ::: |
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tbinta wrote: |
jlight wrote: |
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Offensive Rating
1. Maya Moore-MIN 123.5
2. Elena Delle Donne-CHI 120.1
3. Sylvia Fowles-CHI 118.1
4. Nneka Ogwumike-LAS 118.0
5. Erlana Larkins-IND 117.7
6. Seimone Augustus-MIN 113.4
7. Diana Taurasi-PHO 113.1
8. Erika de Souza-ATL 111.8
9. Elizabeth Cambage-TUL 111.6
10. Epiphanny Prince-CHI 111.4
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any body know what this means. |
ORtg
Offensive Rating (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); for players it is points produced per 100 posessions, while for teams it is points scored per 100 possessions.
glossary on site
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jlight
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Randy
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Posted: 03/28/14 6:55 am ::: |
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Glad to see it, but I would not take these numbers to seriously until they scrub the data a little bit. For example - Willingham is averaging 71.5 points/36 and Henry 26.5. No wonder they let Fred go. Why was he letting all world talent like that langquish on the bench? Willingham also has a 100% usage rate. Is that really good or really bad? Then again, her defensive rating was 3 - maybe that's why she only played 71 minutes all year.....
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zune69
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Richyyy
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Posted: 03/28/14 7:54 am ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
Glad to see it, but I would not take these numbers to seriously until they scrub the data a little bit. For example - Willingham is averaging 71.5 points/36 and Henry 26.5. No wonder they let Fred go. Why was he letting all world talent like that langquish on the bench? Willingham also has a 100% usage rate. Is that really good or really bad? Then again, her defensive rating was 3 - maybe that's why she only played 71 minutes all year..... |
Heh, yeah, they've messed Willingham up. It seems like they've used her production numbers from the whole season, but her minutes totals from the playoffs - which obviously results in some bizarrely inflated advanced stats.
A usage rate of 100% would be a staggeringly greedy player, but also an oddly impressive one. She'd somehow be finishing every single possession when she's on the floor - so her teammates must have an enormous amount of trust in her . |
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sigur3
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zune69
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Posted: 03/28/14 10:00 am ::: |
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The Defensive Rating stat most likely puts more weight in blocks and steals, as opposed to how difficult you make it for the opposition to score.
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mavcarter #NATC
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pilight
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root_thing
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Posted: 05/17/16 5:24 pm ::: |
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It appears that NY and Dallas are showing minutes for only one game even though the other figures are for two. Therefore, everyone's PER, per 36 minutes numbers, and anything else calculated off minutes is looking wacky.
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pilight
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