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CourtsideTix
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 4565 Location: Washington, DC
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Posted: 08/13/12 10:08 am ::: |
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I can't imagine anyone has to be taught not to deface a flag. But then again, I am constantly amazed at the things I learn on Rebkell.
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norwester
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 6375 Location: Seattle
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Posted: 08/13/12 10:14 am ::: |
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CourtsideTix wrote: |
I can't imagine anyone has to be taught not to deface a flag. But then again, I am constantly amazed at the things I learn on Rebkell. |
But you'd have to be taught that writing on the flag constitutes "defacing" for it to even cross your mind. It's true that flag etiquette is no longer common knowledge for the most part.
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grrlagent
Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 240 Location: Non-Bubbaville, Louisiana
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Posted: 08/13/12 10:14 am ::: |
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CourtsideTix wrote: |
I can't imagine anyone has to be taught not to deface a flag. But then again, I am constantly amazed at the things I learn on Rebkell. |
I'm sure they didn't consider it defacing in their minds. That is a rather inflammatory and vitriolic way of describing what they did in a moment of great pride in what they had done for their country. I bet someone told you how to handle the flag. You weren't born with that knowledge. My father was a veteran and he told me when I was young. Not everyone knows. The flag is plastered on t-shirts, posters, ads, bill boards, roadside diners in all kinds of fashion and form. How do you really expect everyone to know what is expected of them and how they handle the flag? We can't. But that does not mean they don't respect, honor, and have pride in their flag and country.
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pilight
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Posted: 08/13/12 10:33 am ::: |
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Not to mention that some people don't much care about etiquette...
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suemar
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 3729 Location: Norfolk Va
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Posted: 08/13/12 12:30 pm ::: |
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Someone connected with the team surley would have known about flag usage and care and honor. Someone. Then again this also got me during Tea party rallies. Groups of people wrapping themselves in the IDEA of the flag without fully understanding its meaning or care.
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GEF34
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Posted: 08/13/12 12:35 pm ::: |
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When I was in elementary school I learned 3 things about the flag, it should not be burned, it should not touch the floor and it should not be defaced. From my understanding defacing the flag meant putting something bad on it, ala writing slurs on it, painting racist logos on it. But in terms of writing on it in general I didn't understand defacing to mean that.
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norwester
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Posted: 08/13/12 1:37 pm ::: |
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I remember post 9-11 when suddenly everyone was flying a flag...except few lit it up at night, or took it down at night, or brought it in out of the rain. A perfect chance to educate everyone on flag etiquette somewhat wasted.
But I tend to look at the intent behind it, anyway. If they're proud of the country and displaying the flag with that in mind, particularly if they're in the position of actually representing the country, it's hard to get angry about ultimately harmless ignorance. And better to take the opportunity for education.
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grrlagent
Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 240 Location: Non-Bubbaville, Louisiana
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Posted: 08/13/12 1:51 pm ::: |
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suemar wrote: |
Someone connected with the team surley would have known about flag usage and care and honor. Someone. Then again this also got me during Tea party rallies. Groups of people wrapping themselves in the IDEA of the flag without fully understanding its meaning or care. |
Only if they told someone about or showed someone the flag before it was pulled out in public. A lot of gold medal athletes were handed flags from someone. It wasn't in their backpacks or anything. Nonetheless, I bet some of those athletes accidentally dragged parts of the flag on the ground and committed other faux pas that they were not even aware they committed. Heat of the moment, passion, excitement at winning a gold medal for their country; I'm willing to forgive them. None were done with ill will or contempt. I think we have to give them a pass.
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TonyL222
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