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PostPosted: 04/05/12 10:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
She kept the team at the top of the league, and high in the polls, despite them losing two key seniors.


Well Green Bay is clearly the best team in that league. They are every year. So that really isn't that impressive.

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She upped her scoring while improving her shooting %. She had the second most steals in the country.


Scoring - Duh, I hope so after losing two key seniors.

Shooting % - impressive because now defenses are focused on her as #1 option.

Steals - very impressive but only b/c I saw her get 10 against Kentucky (can't imagine it was very hard to steal the ball from players in the Horizon league).

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Wojta was the best player on the team last year, but she subordinated her game to the seniors.


Is that really the mentality you want from a player?? Yes it's unselfish, but it also could cost your team victories. And how does your assessment explain the Sweet 16 game vs. Baylor in 2011? Where the cream usually rises to the top (and Wotja had an awful game). Does a coach really allow his best player to be the 3rd or 4th option just so his seniors can shine and be okay with losing as a result? Why wouldn't you make your best player your #1 option no matter what?
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PostPosted: 04/05/12 11:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't think Wojta is going to be great at the next level. She's in the same league as Amber Holt, who was a first round pick in a better draft than this one.



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PostPosted: 04/05/12 12:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I don't think Wojta is going to be great at the next level. She's in the same league as Amber Holt, who was a first round pick in a better draft than this one.


Wojta's offensive game is more like that of a SF. She has range on her shot, whereas Holt scored more in the paint. From that perspective, I think it will be an easier transition for Wojta.

Also, thanks for the report on Courtney Hurt. Cool


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PostPosted: 04/05/12 1:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Wojta is definitely better than Tetschlag or Hoewitch. I've watched quite a few of their games (online) over the past couple of years. She would definitely be a SF in the W (if she could make a team). Defense is the question. At their level she was pretty good and got lots of steals as well, but as you suggest, can she move well enough to defend in the W? Open question. I think offensively she is very smart at creating her own shot and also for hitting teammates for easy baskets. I think she could make a team as a role player off the bench, but it depends on where she is drafted and what is asked of her.


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Myrtle, I love Julie Wojta! I love her to the point that I would be willing to trade E. Prince to get her. I do not hate Prince, I just like Wojta better. When Prince was drafted the vision for her for the Sky was she was going to be the Sky's future point guard. Once she got to the WNBA people realized that she is NOT a natural point guard. So when the Sky drafted Vandersloot a new vision was created for Prince. She was going to be the second coming of Pondexter. After last season that vision was destroyed. Prince is too short and has an inconsistent outside jump shot to be a good shooting guard and she does not have a point guard's skillset to help her team excel. If the Sky do not make that trade and keep Prince then I really hope this season is the year that she blows up like a BOMB! The Sky will need her to play at a higher level than last year if they have playoff aspirations.



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 9:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

But Rock, Wojta is not a SG by any stretch of the imagination and I think she would have a hard time making a team that is now loaded at SF with SWIN, SWIN, SWIN......Murphy and Young


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Myrtle, I love Julie Wojta! I love her to the point that I would be willing to trade E. Prince to get her. I do not hate Prince, I just like Wojta better. When Prince was drafted the vision for her for the Sky was she was going to be the Sky's future point guard. Once she got to the WNBA people realized that she is NOT a natural point guard. So when the Sky drafted Vandersloot a new vision was created for Prince. She was going to be the second coming of Pondexter. After last season that vision was destroyed. Prince is too short and has an inconsistent outside jump shot to be a good shooting guard and she does not have a point guard's skillset to help her team excel. If the Sky do not make that trade and keep Prince then I really hope this season is the year that she blows up like a BOMB! The Sky will need her to play at a higher level than last year if they have playoff aspirations.


I think most people on here not named Shades felt that Prince wasn't a PG prior to her arriving in the WNBA. It was the media (people like Carolyn Peck) who kept hyping her as a PG even though she hadn't played PG anywhere at the college or pro level. Likewise, most people here felt that she wasn't in Cappie's galaxy in terms of basketball skill--which made the decision to get rid of Perkins a bit strange.



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 10:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Myrtle, I am not looking at Wojta through rose colored glasses. I can step out of my shoes and look at her from your perspective. You might think that she is not fast enough, quick enough to guard WNBA shooting guards. I personally think that she can do it. I believe that she has more athletic ability than Natalie Novosel and Novosel is projected to be a first round pick. If you believe that it would be a mistake for the Sky to trade Prince for Wojta then what would you think of a trade of Prince for Tweety? Wink



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 4:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Draft Site has been updated, again!

The second round makes no sense, in my opinion. With already having Lavender and the addition of Anosike, I don't see L.A. taking Goodlett and Kizer at No. 13 & 15. Confused



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 4:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

LadySizzle* wrote:
Draft Site has been updated, again!

The second round makes no sense, in my opinion. With already having Lavender and the addition of Anosike, I don't see L.A. taking Goodlett and Kizer at No. 13 & 15. Confused


Looking at the changes I'd like to see the Sparks draft Jacki Gemelos with one of their 2nd round picks, that player have a very very slim chance of making the roster anyways, so why not take a chance on her, she obviously isn't healthy enough to play this season, so let her get healthy maybe try to play overseas in the winter, see how she does, maybe bring her into training camp and if she isn't ready let her go, or if she isn't healthy enough before training camp let her go, it's not really a risk for them this season and next year it'll really be no risk either, because they are using a pick who wouldn't make the team this year anyways and if they pick a healthy player they can't hold her rights till next season.



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 4:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

We're going to take at least one big--probably at 16. She won't make the team, but you have to have bodies in camp on time. We need a camp wing as well.

Basically, our draft plan should go like this:

#1: The Exalted One aka Nneka
#13: a guard who has a legit shot at making our team (i.e. someone with 1st round stock who drops)--battle Shields for 11th man
#15: camp big or camp wing
#16: whichever we didn't pick with #15
#28: camp guard



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 4:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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We're going to take at least one big--probably at 16. She won't make the team, but you have to have bodies in camp on time. We need a camp wing as well.


Unless they Sparks have already signed, or are planning to sign other players to occupy those spots. They have already signed Darxia Morris, so who is to know who else they have signed that hasn't been announced. Not saying you are wrong, just perhaps they are thinking of filling or already have filled those spots in other ways.



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 4:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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bballfan2005 wrote:
We're going to take at least one big--probably at 16. She won't make the team, but you have to have bodies in camp on time. We need a camp wing as well.


Unless they Sparks have already signed, or are planning to sign other players to occupy those spots. They have already signed Darxia Morris, so who is to know who else they have signed that hasn't been announced. Not saying you are wrong, just perhaps they are thinking of filling or already have filled those spots in other ways.


I don't think the signing of Morris would change how the Sparks would draft because she, in all likelihood, is a camp body. She would battle the third-round guard to remain in camp until our guards arrive from overseas.



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bballfan2005 wrote:
We're going to take at least one big--probably at 16. She won't make the team, but you have to have bodies in camp on time. We need a camp wing as well.


Unless they Sparks have already signed, or are planning to sign other players to occupy those spots. They have already signed Darxia Morris, so who is to know who else they have signed that hasn't been announced. Not saying you are wrong, just perhaps they are thinking of filling or already have filled those spots in other ways.


I don't think the signing of Morris would change how the Sparks would draft because she, in all likelihood, is a camp body. She would battle the third-round guard to remain in camp until our guards arrive from overseas.


I don't either, I meant since they didn't announce the signing of her, it's possible they haven't announced the signing of other players who could change they way the drafted. Say they signed 2-3 post player that haven't been announced, then they may be less inclined to draft a post player like you mentioned.



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I don't either, I meant since they didn't announce the signing of her, it's possible they haven't announced the signing of other players who could change they way the drafted. Say they signed 2-3 post player that haven't been announced, then they may be less inclined to draft a post player like you mentioned.


Well, we've only got two true centers and two players slotted to receive minutes at SF. Anyone we'd bring in at this point who isn't Chamique Holdsclaw or Cheryl Ford (both of whom we don't need) wouldn't be good enough to change the way we'd draft.



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GEF34 wrote:
I don't either, I meant since they didn't announce the signing of her, it's possible they haven't announced the signing of other players who could change they way the drafted. Say they signed 2-3 post player that haven't been announced, then they may be less inclined to draft a post player like you mentioned.


Well, we've only got two true centers and two players slotted to receive minutes at SF. Anyone we'd bring in at this point who isn't Chamique Holdsclaw or Cheryl Ford (both of whom we don't need) wouldn't be good enough to change the way we'd draft.


I see you point, I'm just thinking realistically if they aren't going to make the roster and they are only being brought in till their players come in they maybe trying to look for other positions than they have already signed, brought in.

On another note how many players who are guaranteed a roster spot will be available to start training camp, that may also affect who they bring in because of the limit of players they are allowed to have in training camp at one time.



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 4:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I see you point, I'm just thinking realistically if they aren't going to make the roster and they are only being brought in till their players come in they maybe trying to look for other positions than they have already signed, brought in.


Gotcha. Wink

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On another note how many players who are guaranteed a roster spot will be available to start training camp, that may also affect who they bring in because of the limit of players they are allowed to have in training camp at one time.


This is true. The four players we have in Russia and Poland won't get here until late April/early May, so we need bodies until they get here. I expect the players in Israel (3), DMJ, Hoff, and Coleman to be on time.



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GEF34 wrote:
On another note how many players who are guaranteed a roster spot will be available to start training camp, that may also affect who they bring in because of the limit of players they are allowed to have in training camp at one time.


This is true. The four players we have in Russia and Poland won't get here until late April/early May, so we need bodies until they get here. I expect the players in Israel (3), DMJ, Hoff, and Coleman to be on time.


Thanks, that's what I was thinking, but wasn't positive.



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PostPosted: 04/06/12 6:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

2012 draft breakdown of the SG's by Brian Agler
http://www.wnba.com/storm/news/12draft_sgs.html



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Oh, I like this. Here's Agler's comments on Prahalis

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Coach Agler says ... "Top point guard in the draft. Can score. Has great vision. Really good basketball instincts."
WNBA comparison: "Maybe Renee Montgomery." Confused


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One week until the draft my penultimate draft attempt.

1. LA- Ogwumike- Obvious.
2. Sea- Stricklen- With Seattle adding Domingez they decide to add Stricklen's shooting and size over S. Johnson's versatility.
3. Minn- G. Johnson- a fifth post seems like the best choice, defense and rebounding balances A. Harris as 4th and 5th posts.
4. Tulsa- S. Johnson- best avalible, with TJ and Latta a guard with size seems like a good choice.
5. SA- D. Peters- This choice all depends on if you play Young at the 3 or the 4. If she plays at the 3 more you need one more post with rebounding. if she plays at the 4 more you need a wing.
6. PX- Prahalis- They need a point, she has offense, if you do point by committee with the players you have and Taurasi plays more 3 because of the Taylor situation, you choose a SG Hayes or Williams.
7. NY- L. Barrett- I think NY will pick a post, she's the most Whiz like post left, this is probably too high, but Whiz has done that in the past. Could change if Carson isn't with team but I'm hoping that is not in the cards.
8. Washington- Hayes- best available, they need guards more than posts.
9. Conn- Wojta- People seem to love her and she can play the 3 so expect to see Griffin at the 4 more this season.
10. Washington- Hurt- Just a guess, Virgina is near DC easy scouting, maybe she convert to a 3 (even though it didn't work with Dunlap) my other pick is R. Williams but she seems to duplicate Ajevon, Lacey and Hayes.
11. Ind.- Novosel- I want to pick Standish but Novosel is a local product. this would assume a move of Catchings to the 4 and Douglas to the 3 and Novosel would be auditioning for back up 3.
12. Minn- Dantas- The Brazilian center who might not join the team until the future, Minnesota is loaded.

round 2

13. LA- Rusdan- Guard to compete for last spot, I hear Ross likes defense
14. Atlanta- R. Williams- Could she be the offensive other side of the coin to Price's defense.
15. LA- C. Ricketts- one more guard to compete. for back up PG
16. LA- Kizer- well they have two Maryland alum why not three, she can't possible beat out Lavender or Anosike so maybe hold a player for next season like Hampton or an international instead.
17. Tulsa- T. White- Maybe she can make this team.
18. Minn- Rayburn
19. Minn- D. Stevens
20. Minn- Hampton- why not store up more players for the future.
21. Conn- Goodlett- She might get on this team they need another post.
22. Seattle- Standish
23. Chicago-T. James
24. PX- S. Carter




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Dang, Prahalis and D in the same back court? I fear for the poor refs Cool



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Dang, Prahalis and D in the same back court? I fear for the poor refs Cool


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FINAL MOCK DRAFT
FIRST ROUND
1. Los Angeles - N. Ogwumike, F, Stanford
2. Seattle - S. Johnson, G, Miami(FL)
3. Minnesota - G. Johnson, F, Tennessee
4. Tulsa - S. Stricklen, G/F, Tennessee
5. San Antonio - J. Wojta, F, Wisconsin-Green Bay
6. Phoenix - S. Prahalis, G, Ohio St.
7. New York - N. Novosel, G, Notre Dame
8. Washington - L. Kizer, C, Maryland
9. Connecticut - D. Dantas, C, Brazil
10. Washington - T. Hayes, G, UCONN
11. Indiana - D. Peters, F, Notre Dame
12. Minnesota - R. Williams, G, Miami(FL)

SECOND ROUND
13. Los Angeles - T. James, G, Eastern Michigan
14. Atlanta - C. Hurt, F, Virginia Commonwealth
15. Los Angeles - K. Standish, F, Gonzaga
16. Los Angeles - K. Hampton, F, DePaul
17. Tulsa - S. Goodlett, C, Georgia Tech
18. Minnesota - C. Shegog, C, UNC
19. Minnesota - T. White, G/F, Texas A&M
20. Minnesota - foreign player
21. Connecticut - C. Bravard, C, Florida St.
22. Seatle - K. Rushdan, G, Rutgers
23. Chicago - L. Barratt, F, LSU
24. Phoenix - R. Hackbarth, C, Drake



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FIRST ROUND

1. Los Angeles – Nnemkadi Ogwumike ( this is a good pickup since Parker is often hurt)
2. Seattle –Shekinna Stricklen( I see them taking a 3, and I think Stricklen will be a good pro)
3. Minnesota – Glory Johnson( I could see them taking the other Johnson seeing as Monica Wright wont be around for ever)
4. Tulsa – Samantha Prahalis( I think she will sale tickets)
5. San Antonio – Devereaux Peters( unless Glory is still on the board, Peters will give her all)
6. Phoenix – Tiffany Hayes( I’ve been thinking this for sometime now)
7. New York – Shenise Johnson( would she really fall this low)
8. Washington – Riquna Williams(benefit of a weak draft)
9. Connecticut – Damiris Dantas
10. Washington – Natalie Novosel
11. Indiana – Kayla Standish (decent 4 maybe)
12. Minnesota – Sasha Goodlett(1st player to be cut from a 1st round team)

SECOND ROUND
13. Los Angeles – Khadijah Rushdan( big guard I think she could make the team)
14. Atlanta – brittany rayburn( if she can knock down her shots she could get minutes, Briana Gilbreath, or ashley corral could be decent here too)
15. Los Angeles – Sydney Carter(cut)
16. Los Angeles – Jacki Gemelos(dream come true for her)
17. Tulsa – Cierra Bravard (could be out Abby until Liz gets back)
18. Minnesota – Jericka Jenkins(cut)
19. Minnesota – Da'Shena Stevens(cut)
20. Minnesota – Lykendra Johnson(cut)
21. Connecticut – Tyra White(chance here?)
22. Seattle – Ashleigh Fontenette (cut)
23. Chicago – Lynetta Kizer(could she beat out Sowrds)
24. Phoenix - Tavelyn James( maybe a point guard, but wont make the team)
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Dang, Prahalis and D in the same back court? I fear for the poor refs Cool


I really think Prahalis's game is suited to Phoenix given how the OSU strategy was to get the ball up and try for a quick shot. Oh, and that whole no-coaching, make a play on your own thing. I would not be surprised if Tulsa takes her at #4 though.


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Head Coach Gary Kloppenburg's Take On:

Natalie Novosel - Notre Dame: Tough and physical guard that makes plays and can shoot the ball … Reminds me of Katie Smith.

Tyra White - Texas A&M: Excellent slashing guard that plays tough defense.

Tiffany Hayes - UConn: Skilled slasher with excellent three-point shooting ability … Versatile player that can play a few positions.

Devereaux Peters - Notre Dame: Tough and physical PF that rebounds hard at both ends … Excellent passer from high post area …Has an edge to her that translates well to pro game.

Riquna Williams - Miami: Athletic combo guard that is a “microwave” scorer … Can get it going and score in bunches.

Shekinna Stricklen - Tennessee: Versatile big guard that can play 1-to-4 positions ... Good three-point shooter with a mid-range and post-up game.

Shenise Johnson - Miami: Ball-skilled big guard that can get her own shot ... Excellent three-point shooter ... Excellent play maker that can create for others.

Glory Johnson - Tennessee: High energy player that brings it every night … She’s got a “ high octane motor” and is a relentless rebounder at both ends …(Tamika) Catchings type.

Nnemkadi Ogwumike - Stanford: Lock to be a star in WNBA this year…quick, relentless on the glass … Developing a three-point shot and great slasher to rim from high post …Going to create all kinds of problems for the fours in our league this year.

Samantha Prahalis - Ohio State: Dynamic PG that is excellent in S/R ... A gamer that will take and make big shots when game is on the line ... Great vision and passing ability.
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well, that narrows it down doesn't it. lol.


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FIRST ROUND
1. Los Angeles - N. Ogwumike, F, Stanford
2. Seattle - S. Johnson, G, Miami(FL)
3. Minnesota - G. Johnson, F, Tennessee
4. Tulsa - S. Stricklen, G/F, Tennessee
5. San Antonio - N. Novosel, G, Notre Dame
6. Phoenix - S. Prahalis, G, Ohio St.
7. New York - D. Peters, F, Notre Dame
8. Washington - T. Hayes, G, UCONN
9. Connecticut - S. Goodlett, C, Georgia Tech
10. Washington - C. Shegog, C, UNC
11. Indiana - L. Barrett, F, LSU
12. Minnesota - D. Dantas, C, Brazil

SECOND ROUND
13. Los Angeles - R. Williams, G, Miami(FL)
14. Atlanta - T. White, G/F, Texas A&M
15. Los Angeles - J. Wojta, F, Wisconsin-Green Bay
16. Los Angeles - T. James, G, Eastern Michigan
17. Tulsa - K. Standish, F, Gonzaga
18. Minnesota - C. Bravard, C, Florida St.
19. Minnesota - C. Hurt, F, Virginia Commonwealth
20. Minnesota - K. Hampton, F, DePaul
21. Connecticut - L. Kizer, C, Maryland
22. Seatle - K. Rushdan, G, Rutgers
23. Chicago - V.Baugh, C, Tennessee
24. Phoenix - A. Johnson, F, Oregon


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PostPosted: 04/10/12 9:40 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
FIRST ROUND
1. Los Angeles - N. Ogwumike, F, Stanford
2. Seattle - S. Johnson, G, Miami(FL)
3. Minnesota - G. Johnson, F, Tennessee
4. Tulsa - S. Stricklen, G/F, Tennessee
5. San Antonio - N. Novosel, G, Notre Dame
6. Phoenix - S. Prahalis, G, Ohio St.
7. New York - D. Peters, F, Notre Dame
8. Washington - T. Hayes, G, UCONN
9. Connecticut - S. Goodlett, C, Georgia Tech
10. Washington - C. Shegog, C, UNC
11. Indiana - L. Barrett, F, LSU
12. Minnesota - D. Dantas, C, Brazil

SECOND ROUND
13. Los Angeles - R. Williams, G, Miami(FL)
14. Atlanta - T. White, G/F, Texas A&M
15. Los Angeles - J. Wojta, F, Wisconsin-Green Bay
16. Los Angeles - T. James, G, Eastern Michigan
17. Tulsa - K. Standish, F, Gonzaga
18. Minnesota - C. Bravard, C, Florida St.
19. Minnesota - C. Hurt, F, Virginia Commonwealth
20. Minnesota - K. Hampton, F, DePaul
21. Connecticut - L. Kizer, C, Maryland
22. Seatle - K. Rushdan, G, Rutgers
23. Chicago - V.Baugh, C, Tennessee
24. Phoenix - A. Johnson, F, Oregon


I like this one ... of course, given the quick dropoff in talent after the first four or five, it's all guesswork. The only thing I disagree with is Novosel so high -- I just don't see her as an effective WNBA player. I think she'll have trouble getting around defenders, and defending quickness.



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FIRST ROUND
1. Los Angeles - N. Ogwumike, F, Stanford
2. Seattle - S. Johnson, G, Miami(FL)
3. Minnesota - G. Johnson, F, Tennessee
4. Tulsa - S. Stricklen, G/F, Tennessee
5. San Antonio - N. Novosel, G, Notre Dame
6. Phoenix - S. Prahalis, G, Ohio St.
7. New York - D. Peters, F, Notre Dame
8. Washington - T. Hayes, G, UCONN
9. Connecticut - S. Goodlett, C, Georgia Tech
10. Washington - C. Shegog, C, UNC
11. Indiana - L. Barrett, F, LSU
12. Minnesota - D. Dantas, C, Brazil

SECOND ROUND
13. Los Angeles - R. Williams, G, Miami(FL)
14. Atlanta - T. White, G/F, Texas A&M
15. Los Angeles - J. Wojta, F, Wisconsin-Green Bay
16. Los Angeles - T. James, G, Eastern Michigan
17. Tulsa - K. Standish, F, Gonzaga
18. Minnesota - C. Bravard, C, Florida St.
19. Minnesota - C. Hurt, F, Virginia Commonwealth
20. Minnesota - K. Hampton, F, DePaul
21. Connecticut - L. Kizer, C, Maryland
22. Seatle - K. Rushdan, G, Rutgers
23. Chicago - V.Baugh, C, Tennessee
24. Phoenix - A. Johnson, F, Oregon


I like this one the best of the ones I have seen so far. I would make a couple of changes, but I will have to come back to that later. Schools a pain, but love the internet access. Very Happy


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Has anyone seen Amanda Johnson from Oregon play on a consistent level?

Edit: I seen her play once against Illinois where she had a monster game. She's very good on offense, can score anywhere on the court, has pretty good handles, plus she's not a bad defender. The only negative I have is that she's kind of slow, so I can't imagine her playing SF. Whether she makes a roster or not depends on the right situation, I could definitely see her being a mid to late 2nd round pick.



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I think you all will be very interested in my upcoming FINAL mock draft which will hit my site on Sunday evening (12am).

Stay tuned.

http://wnbamockdraft.blogspot.com/
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ucdt3 wrote:
I think you all will be very interested in my upcoming FINAL mock draft which will hit my site on Sunday evening (12am).

Stay tuned.

Will it be any more accurate than the previous one?


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p_d_swanson wrote:
ucdt3 wrote:
I think you all will be very interested in my upcoming FINAL mock draft which will hit my site on Sunday evening (12am).

Stay tuned.


Will it be any more accurate than the previous one?


Maybe, smartass! (and definitely more accurate than the Lynx current one Cool )
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I am starting to hope that the Fever draft Keisha Hampton and wait a year for her. She has some actual potential, and it is hard for me believe that anyone they are going to get late in the first round (Darrett, Standish, Goodlet, etc.) are going to have any.


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ucdt3 wrote:
p_d_swanson wrote:
ucdt3 wrote:
I think you all will be very interested in my upcoming FINAL mock draft which will hit my site on Sunday evening (12am).

Stay tuned.


Will it be any more accurate than the previous one?


Maybe, smartass! (and definitely more accurate than the Lynx current one Cool )


You're being way too kind.



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ClayK wrote:
I like this one ... of course, given the quick dropoff in talent after the first four or five, it's all guesswork. The only thing I disagree with is Novosel so high -- I just don't see her as an effective WNBA player. I think she'll have trouble getting around defenders, and defending quickness.


I actually think she'll slide after that horrendous NC game showing. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see her drafted at #13.



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ucdt3 wrote:
p_d_swanson wrote:
ucdt3 wrote:
I think you all will be very interested in my upcoming FINAL mock draft which will hit my site on Sunday evening (12am).

Stay tuned.


Will it be any more accurate than the previous one?


Maybe, smartass! (and definitely more accurate than the Lynx current one Cool )


They have three posted but none are pd's or is that your point?

Most drafts are crapshoots after the first few picks, this one is after the first pick. I haven't seen any one mock this year that had a better chance at being "accurate" than most of the pack. Heck, even the four in question here barely differ with 5 of the top 10 picks merely swapping a slot or so and those are the 5 we ALL know are going in the first round.



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psheehy wrote:
ucdt3 wrote:
p_d_swanson wrote:
ucdt3 wrote:
I think you all will be very interested in my upcoming FINAL mock draft which will hit my site on Sunday evening (12am).

Stay tuned.


Will it be any more accurate than the previous one?


Maybe, smartass! (and definitely more accurate than the Lynx current one Cool )


They have three posted but none are pd's or is that your point?

Most drafts are crapshoots after the first few picks, this one is after the first pick. I haven't seen any one mock this year that had a better chance at being "accurate" than most of the pack. Heck, even the four in question here barely differ with 5 of the top 10 picks merely swapping a slot or so and those are the 5 we ALL know are going in the first round.


That is exactly the reason for my comment. p_d wanted to be a smart ass and slam my mock draft accuracy, but after the #1 pick, this draft is a crap shoot. I know p_d didn't create any of the Lynx, but they are old (created in Jan) and have yet to be updated to reflect "better" accuracy although who knows, maybe they are dead on accurate. Point is no one knows since this draft is wide open after the consensus #1 in Nneka.

I have never once claimed my mock draft is the "Most" accurate or the "Best" or anything of that nature. I do it for fun and to provide a topic of conversation amongst WNBA fans. If you don't agree with it fine, but I try my best to be as accurate as possible and I do research so that it can be based on team needs, player talent, etc. (not like the mock draft on draftsite.com which year after year looks as if a drunk blind person put it together)
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Has anyone seen Amanda Johnson from Oregon play on a consistent level?

Edit: I seen her play once against Illinois where she had a monster game. She's very good on offense, can score anywhere on the court, has pretty good handles, plus she's not a bad defender. The only negative I have is that she's kind of slow, so I can't imagine her playing SF. Whether she makes a roster or not depends on the right situation, I could definitely see her being a mid to late 2nd round pick.


I've only seen Johnson in parts of a couple of games. I agree with the assessment that she has some skills (particularly long-range shot), but she's slow and not very athletic. I don't think she's quick enough to play 3, and at 6-2, I wonder if she's tall enough to play 4 without jumping ability or great strength. She graduated with a double major after her sophomore year, so she's supposed to be incredibly bright and hardworking. Maybe if she wants it enough, she can overcome the lack of athletic ability with smart play.


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That is exactly the reason for my comment. p_d wanted to be a smart ass and slam my mock draft accuracy, but after the #1 pick, this draft is a crap shoot. I know p_d didn't create any of the Lynx, but they are old (created in Jan) and have yet to be updated to reflect "better" accuracy although who knows, maybe they are dead on accurate. Point is no one knows since this draft is wide open after the consensus #1 in Nneka.

I have never once claimed my mock draft is the "Most" accurate or the "Best" or anything of that nature. I do it for fun and to provide a topic of conversation amongst WNBA fans. If you don't agree with it fine, but I try my best to be as accurate as possible and I do research so that it can be based on team needs, player talent, etc. (not like the mock draft on draftsite.com which year after year looks as if a drunk blind person put it together)


The more the better is my opinion...at least people are thinking about the game. I know that not everyone subscribes to that opinion.



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I think Amanda Johnson is quite a bit like Julie Wojta, just hasn't had the national semi-spotlight because her team is so piss poor, plus she was out a month or more midseason this year with an injury. I don't see her as so 'unathletic' but she definitely plays more like a wing player than a post.


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myrtle wrote:
I think Amanda Johnson is quite a bit like Julie Wojta, just hasn't had the national semi-spotlight because her team is so piss poor, plus she was out a month or more midseason this year with an injury. I don't see her as so 'unathletic' but she definitely plays more like a wing player than a post.


I only saw Johnson after she came back from the injury. Do you think there were any lingering effects? Was she quicker before the injury? She looked slow to me, and I didn't see any jumping ability. Wojta appears a lot quicker -- straight ahead speed, lateral quickness, and just overall reaction time. Of course, Johnson is bigger so she may be able to play PF in the pro's.

I've seen interviews with Amanda, and she seems likeable with a dry sense of humor. It would be nice if she made a roster, but the little I've seen leaves me skeptical.


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I hope the best for both of them, but think either's chances depends on the situation where they land. Some places either one would have a lot more hope than others. Kind of the same with any draftee, but more so with the marginals...of course this year is different in that almost all are marginals!


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I just hope this class doesn't turn out like 2005.



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mavcarter wrote:
I just hope this class doesn't turn out like 2005.


You don't like Janel McCarville, Tan White, Sandora Irvin, Sancho Lyttle, Temeka Johnson, Kara Braxton, Loree Moore, Kristen Mann (tina made me add her), Tanisha Wright, Roneeka Hodges, Erin Phillips, Chelsea Newton, Jessica Moore, or Catherine Kraayeveld?
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mavcarter wrote:
I just hope this class doesn't turn out like 2005.


You don't like Janel McCarville, Sancho Lyttle, Temeka Johnson, Kara Braxton, Tanisha Wright or Erin Phillips?


I like these.



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From the Lynx draft team overview

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The Lynx, after trading Nicky Anosike to the Washington Mystics for Taj McWilliams-Franklin and a first round pick, amazingly ended up with the third overall selection in the lottery after Washington unexpectedly finished with the league's second-worst record.


That was quite some wheeling and dealing the Lynx did to get Taj included in that deal. Wink

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So, what do you draft for the team that has everything? You could look for Minnesota to add another physical presence in the paint – something you can never have enough of – like Tennessee’s double-double machine Glory Johnson. Or, they may just be looking to add another supremely talented player on the perimeter to complement Lindsay Whalen, Maya Moore and Seimone Augustus. Among the other prospects being talked about at No. 3, and the ones that Reeve expect to be in the mix, are Johnson’s teammate Shekinna Stricklen, Miami’s Shenise Johnson and Ohio State’s Samantha Prahalis.


Looks like the Lynx have actually been considering Prahalis Surprised
unless this comment isn't from a Reeve quote but rather derived from Reeve's choices of top prospects previously stated on the Lynx website.
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mavcarter wrote:
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mavcarter wrote:
I just hope this class doesn't turn out like 2005.


You don't like Sancho Lyttle, Tanisha Wright or Erin Phillips?


I like these.


My list is even smaller. Mr. Green



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