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| She's had recurring injury problems and likely has problems reaching salary agreements. She seems interested in playing in the WNBA but only with certain teams at a certain price point, since with her health problems it's kind of not worth it to risk the super physical WNBA season when her main earning potential is overseas. Just is the way it is.
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She also hasn't played since her team, the Detroit Shock, moved to Tulsa.
At this rate, I'm thinking Tweety's career in the WNBA is done.
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She also hasn't played since her team, the Detroit Shock, moved to Tulsa.
At this rate, I'm thinking Tweety's career in the WNBA is done. |
It really wouldn't surprise me if Tweety's overseas career is about done. Her performances for a few years now have been pretty forgettable and crummy.
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| As I recall, the contract she signed last year had a clause that prevented Ford from playing in the WNBA. I don't know the length of her contract, so it may or may not apply this season.
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She also hasn't played since her team, the Detroit Shock, moved to Tulsa.
At this rate, I'm thinking Tweety's career in the WNBA is done. |
It really wouldn't surprise me if Tweety's overseas career is about done. Her performances for a few years now have been pretty forgettable and crummy. |
Nolan is the kind of player that gets old fast. She's sort of like Mwadi Mabika in that they both relied on their physical superiority rather than playing fundamentally sound ball. Once they get into their 30's the body starts slowing down and they can't do what they once could and they have nothing to fall back on. Mabika played her last WNBA game at the same age Nolan is now.
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| As I recall, the contract she signed last year had a clause that prevented Ford from playing in the WNBA. I don't know the length of her contract, so it may or may not apply this season. |
She's not with the same team she was last year
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| As I recall, the contract she signed last year had a clause that prevented Ford from playing in the WNBA. I don't know the length of her contract, so it may or may not apply this season. |
She's not with the same team she was last year |
I'm referring to the contract with Famila Schio. It was signed last year right before the WNBA season, which ended all our speculation about her signing with the Liberty or Mystics. That contract didn't take effect until this European season -- Winter 2011/Spring 2012.
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| Wait, when did talking about Ford morph into talking about Tweety Nolan? Not that we can't do both but the conversation seems to be as if they are the same person.
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| As I recall, the contract she signed last year had a clause that prevented Ford from playing in the WNBA. I don't know the length of her contract, so it may or may not apply this season. |
She's not with the same team she was last year |
I'm referring to the contract with Famila Schio. It was signed last year right before the WNBA season, which ended all our speculation about her signing with the Liberty or Mystics. That contract didn't take effect until this European season -- Winter 2011/Spring 2012. |
Nothing prevented Ford from playing in the WNBA last summer. |
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| Posted: 04/06/12 9:40 pm ::: |
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| Cheryl Ford doesn't have cooties, she has crappy knees.
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Ford's knees can't hold up playing year round and if you can only play one season it financially makes sense to play overseas. I really almost don't understand the draw of the WNBA sometimes. Top players make peanuts in the U.S. but pull major cash overseas. I love the WNBA but the money sucks.
But if Does just really wanted to play I think she would do ok as a back up who see limited minutes. I think that is the only way she could make it through playing year found.
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them.
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
I think it's a bit much to say they think they are too good for the league, I don't know about Cheryl Ford, but doesn't Deanna Nolan feel betrayed by the league because of the who Detroit being moved when she was told they wouldn't be. Also she may be willing to play, but she doesn't exactly have a chance to explore other options while Tulsa still has her cored._________________ DeLisha Milton-Jones is my favorite player 
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
I think it's a bit much to say they think they are too good for the league, I don't know about Cheryl Ford, but doesn't Deanna Nolan feel betrayed by the league because of the who Detroit being moved when she was told they wouldn't be. Also she may be willing to play, but she doesn't exactly have a chance to explore other options while Tulsa still has her cored. |
Then she should go play in Tulsa until her contract runs out. I think she's a flake. I don't really feel that way about Ford. She was injured, and has bad knees, and I know the wear and tear is harder on her, but like someone else said, she could come back and play a reduced role on any team if she wanted too. Nolan is just a flake.
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| Posted: 04/07/12 7:46 pm ::: |
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
I think it's a bit much to say they think they are too good for the league, I don't know about Cheryl Ford, but doesn't Deanna Nolan feel betrayed by the league because of the who Detroit being moved when she was told they wouldn't be. Also she may be willing to play, but she doesn't exactly have a chance to explore other options while Tulsa still has her cored. |
Then she should go play in Tulsa until her contract runs out. I think she's a flake. I don't really feel that way about Ford. She was injured, and has bad knees, and I know the wear and tear is harder on her, but like someone else said, she could come back and play a reduced role on any team if she wanted too. Nolan is just a flake. |
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| Posted: 04/07/12 9:58 pm ::: |
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
I think it's a bit much to say they think they are too good for the league, I don't know about Cheryl Ford, but doesn't Deanna Nolan feel betrayed by the league because of the who Detroit being moved when she was told they wouldn't be. Also she may be willing to play, but she doesn't exactly have a chance to explore other options while Tulsa still has her cored. |
Then she should go play in Tulsa until her contract runs out. I think she's a flake. I don't really feel that way about Ford. She was injured, and has bad knees, and I know the wear and tear is harder on her, but like someone else said, she could come back and play a reduced role on any team if she wanted too. Nolan is just a flake. |
She doesn't have a contract with Tulsa, she would have to sign a contract first before she can play with Tulsa. |
Oops, I meant to say she should play in Tulsa because they have her cored, and then just play it out until she becomes a free agent.
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| Of course, if Nolan showed up to play this year, and Tulsa just kept coring her for as long as they're entitled to, she'd be an unrestricted free agent just in time for the 2017 season. |
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| My guess is that Deanna Nolan, Cheryl Ford & Janel McCarville are all finished with the WNBA.
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She doesn't have a contract with Tulsa, she would have to sign a contract first before she can play with Tulsa. |
Oops, I meant to say she should play in Tulsa because they have her cored, and then just play it out until she becomes a free agent. |
As Richyyy mentioned, it's not as if she signed a one year contract she would be an unrestricted free agent next year, they can and perhaps said they would core her until they weren't allowed, in this case she would be 38 years, probably not worth it to wait until she is almost 40 before she can decide where she plays. I don't think that classifies her as a flake, or means she things she is too good for the league, unless she says she won't play for any other team in the league, I maybe wrong, but I think it has been mentioned here around the time it first happened she was willing to play for other teams, but Tulsa wasn't interested in a trade._________________ DeLisha Milton-Jones is my favorite player
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Yeah, I think the WNBA fans should be thankful that so many players still make the effort and the personal sacrifice to keep coming back.
12 months with very little break from playing is hell of a rough schedule, and those 3-4 months at home over summer in the lower-paying league seems to me like the obvious one to opt out of in order to stay fresh & healthy and actually have a life.
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| Not to mention that Tweety plays for UMMC overseas and she has a clausule in her contract that if she gets hurt in the WNBA she will not get payed(or she will have to pay UMMC dont know exactly)
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
Wow.
Why do you think you know how they feel or why they've made the decisions they have?
Are you a mouse in their pocket or just a totally off base fan who thinks he knows everything?
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| Not to mention that Tweety plays for UMMC overseas and she has a clausule in her contract that if she gets hurt in the WNBA she will not get payed(or she will have to pay UMMC dont know exactly) |
Pretty sure that contract is done at the end of the current season.
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| As a season ticket holder to the Detroit Shock, I marveled at the athletic abilities the players possessed and seemingly performed as if effortlessly. Tweety could fly. Ford was a natural rebounder. To not be able to see them play is just plain sad. The fact that they both suffered injuries is no surprise because they banged their bodies with the best of Europe and the US. That does not negate any of their prowess they displayed in helping to garner championships. Not today or ever.
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
Wow.
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The latter of course, like most of us here. LOL
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
I think it's a bit much to say they think they are too good for the league, I don't know about Cheryl Ford, but doesn't Deanna Nolan feel betrayed by the league because of the who Detroit being moved when she was told they wouldn't be. Also she may be willing to play, but she doesn't exactly have a chance to explore other options while Tulsa still has her cored. |
Then she should go play in Tulsa until her contract runs out. I think she's a flake. I don't really feel that way about Ford. She was injured, and has bad knees, and I know the wear and tear is harder on her, but like someone else said, she could come back and play a reduced role on any team if she wanted too. Nolan is just a flake. |
Really? You know the wear and tear is harder on Ford than Tweety? Ford's injuries may have been more severe, but Tweety played through so many injuries in her time with Detroit and still was able to be a star player. The wear and tear is hard on every player who plays overseas and in the W, with little breaks. Tweety had plenty of nagging injuries that she played with, so she was definitely feeling the wear and tear too.
Tweety doesn't owe Tulsa anything, they have her cored not under contract so she has no obligation to play for them. That's not flaking.
I would welcome both players back with open arms, I really miss seeing them in the WNBA.
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She's an unrestricted FA. She can play anywhere in the W.
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| i spoke to ford and like other people sated she just Refuses to play in tulsa .. |
Tweety Nolan is the Tulsa cored player. Cheryl Ford could play anywhere if she chose to.
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I don't know the situation from tweety's perspective but at least at the time her refusal to play seemed petty and ungrateful to the league that fostered her growth into an all-star so she can get paid more overseas. Granted i didn't care for tweety much because of her terrible attitude and perma-stinkface, so maybe my opinion of the situation has always been a little skewed.
Now not playing to heal or avoid injury is a different story, but she could have gone about it in a way that didn't come off like a slight to the city of Tulsa and the WNBA. There is a big difference between "I will not play anywhere but Detroit", which is utterly ridiculous (and what I've always heard her stance was), and "I will not play in Tulsa"...in which case her not being in the league is squarely the fault of the Shock front office.
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| I wish people would get off the high horse.Tweety ain't coming back and she does not owe anyone or organization but her family.I wish people would let Tweety ,Janel Mc,cheryl ford alone .If they dont want to play here so be it
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| I have a question. Why isn't espnW or WNBA.com or whoever else that covers womens' basketball not going to the source to get answers to these questions? Or did I just miss the articles and exposés? |
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| i spoke to ford and like other people sated she just Refuses to play in tulsa .. |
Tweety Nolan is the Tulsa cored player. Cheryl Ford could play anywhere if she chose to. |
they waited till just about when the season started last yr to release her ..and teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the amount of money she wanted
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| i spoke to ford and like other people sated she just Refuses to play in tulsa .. |
Tweety Nolan is the Tulsa cored player. Cheryl Ford could play anywhere if she chose to. |
they waited till just about when the season started last yr to release her ..and teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the amount of money she wanted |
You're a year out of date - they renounced their rights to her before the 2010 season, not 2011. |
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| I wish people would get off the high horse. Tweety ain't coming back and she does not owe anyone or organization but her family. I wish people would let Tweety, Janel Mc, Cheryl Ford alone. If they don't want to play here, so be it. |
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And why hasn't there been a story on this? Because you need to be able to interview all three of these players, and the logistics of that are difficult. You have to find their agents, convince them to talk on the record, and then set up a time for an international phone call, and an expensive call at that.
Next, you have to find a couple GMs or coaches who are willing to talk on the record, and that's almost impossible. GMs and coaches have absolutely nothing to gain by discussing those three, as they will gain no goodwill from the people that matter to them (agents and players) and could conceivably really upset some people if they say the wrong thing.
And then, even if you could get everyone to talk, what are the odds they would actually say anything substantive? Again, they have no motivation to say anything remotely controversial, because no one wants to burn any bridges, so you'd probably get vanilla replies like "We tried to get her to sign but just couldn't work out a deal that made sense," or "I would love to come back to the WNBA if I can find the right situation."
Finally, who will pay you to do all this legwork, especially if you have no guarantee you'll get anything with any meat out of it? Now if Tweety called up a reporter and said "I hate the WNBA, here's why and you can print it -- along with the names of all the GMs who won't sign me," then there's a starting point. But without some guarantee of an actual story, it's a lot of work for not much return.
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| I have a question. Why isn't espnW or WNBA.com or whoever else that covers womens' basketball not going to the source to get answers to these questions? Or did I just miss the articles and exposés? |
As ClayK mentioned it's not the best idea for the players to come out and tell all, especially if they have plans of returning to the WNBA if it's the right situation for them._________________ DeLisha Milton-Jones is my favorite player
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| i spoke to ford and like other people sated she just Refuses to play in tulsa .. |
Tweety Nolan is the Tulsa cored player. Cheryl Ford could play anywhere if she chose to. |
they waited till just about when the season started last yr to release her ..and teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the amount of money she wanted |
You're a year out of date - they renounced their rights to her before the 2010 season, not 2011. |
im sorry thats what i ment as to referring when she was released from her contract and still the teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the money she excepted to earn
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| i spoke to ford and like other people sated she just Refuses to play in tulsa .. |
Tweety Nolan is the Tulsa cored player. Cheryl Ford could play anywhere if she chose to. |
they waited till just about when the season started last yr to release her ..and teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the amount of money she wanted |
You're a year out of date - they renounced their rights to her before the 2010 season, not 2011. |
im sorry thats what i ment as to referring when she was released from her contract and still the teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the money she excepted to earn |
If that is true (big if, given all of the backtracking) then she clearly is overestimating her value on the market. That is hardly the fault of the teams.
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| i spoke to ford and like other people sated she just Refuses to play in tulsa .. |
Tweety Nolan is the Tulsa cored player. Cheryl Ford could play anywhere if she chose to. |
they waited till just about when the season started last yr to release her ..and teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the amount of money she wanted |
You're a year out of date - they renounced their rights to her before the 2010 season, not 2011. |
im sorry thats what i ment as to referring when she was released from her contract and still the teams that were interested in her wouldn't give her the money she excepted to earn |
But that doesn't explain 2011 or 2012 so far. And they are not the first player in recent memory to decide to skip the WNBA - Sales comes to mind. If you are a player nearing the end of your earning potential, I could see needing to make a choice as to how much you play.
I wish there was more available data on salaries. It might makes certain player's decisions make more sense.
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For what it's worth, there was a tribunal decision in favour of Becky Hammon the other day that revealed some of her salary numbers from Russia for the last couple of years - http://www.prodep.com/media/resources/000/003/796/original/120404_Award_BAT_0212.PDF . Her deal with Nadezhda was scheduled to pay her $375,000 in the first year, then $400,000 in the second. Once Nadezhda dumped her, her new deal with Spartak for this year was for $340,000.
That's for a player who counts as European in continental competition, and counts as 'Russian' in domestic competition, both of which should raise her value a bit beyond that of just Hammon's skill level. But also bear in mind that it's net, not gross, and comes with things like an apartment.
So that's at least one example of what top players - but not UMMC or Ros Casares players - are making in Europe. You can assume that Ford was looking for a WNBA team to pay her around the WNBA max, which is $103,000 this year (or $105,500 for vets re-signing with their own teams). |
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[Hammon's] deal with Nadezhda was scheduled to pay her $375,000 in the first year, then $400,000 in the second. Once Nadezhda dumped her, her new deal with Spartak for this year was for $340,000.
That's for a player who counts as European in continental competition, and counts as 'Russian' in domestic competition, both of which should raise her value a bit beyond that of just Hammon's skill level. But also bear in mind that it's net, not gross, and comes with things like an apartment. |
D.A.M.N. 
I've never really kept tabs on such things, but I'm impressed. And that's NET pay? (I'm curious....must these players pay taxes on their earnings there AND here?)
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[Hammon's] deal with Nadezhda was scheduled to pay her $375,000 in the first year, then $400,000 in the second. Once Nadezhda dumped her, her new deal with Spartak for this year was for $340,000.
That's for a player who counts as European in continental competition, and counts as 'Russian' in domestic competition, both of which should raise her value a bit beyond that of just Hammon's skill level. But also bear in mind that it's net, not gross, and comes with things like an apartment. |
D.A.M.N.
I've never really kept tabs on such things, but I'm impressed. And that's NET pay? (I'm curious....must these players pay taxes on their earnings there AND here?) |
I believe that Americans working overseas have to pay taxes in the country in which they earn the money, and then pay any additional difference between that country and the US tax bill in the US. But someone else might know better.
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| Personally I'm totally over both her and Nolan. I don't care about players who think they are too good for the WNBA. Both these players had great WNBA careers, had loads of fans, and are both still good enough to play at the WNBA level. Ford thinks she's too good to come off a bench for slightly less than max. Nolan thinks shes too good to play for any team that isnt in Detroit. Yes the money is better over seas, but the women play in the USA because of pride playing in their own country in front of their fans friends and family. Good riddance to those players that don't care about playing in their own country. I don't really miss either of these players, and the quality of the WNBA hasn't diminished one bit without them. |
Wow.
Why do you think you know how they feel or why they've made the decisions they have?
Amen...
There was a whole lot of stuff that went on that last season of the Detroit Shock. If you weren't around and know the whole story...
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Ford will be at the Boys and Girls Club in Ruston at 300 Memorial Drive Friday (July 20) as the day begins with Readers Create Leaders from 9 to 10:30 a.m. Later that day, she will be on hand for a meet-n-greet and cookout from 2:30 to 4:30 p.m. at the club.
The following day (Saturday, July 21), Ford will be at the Louisiana Tech Intramural Center for the Team Ford Junior and Senior Basketball Clinics. From 8 to 11 a.m., Ford will conduct the junior clinic for boys and girls ages 8 to 11 years old while the senior clinic will follow from 1 to 5 p.m. for ages 12 to 18 years old.
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