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Still can't see SASS taking Sami and not sure where the love comes from for Barrett? Can someone tell me why Barrett would be taken this high? And in a three round draft, they still don't have Wojta somewhere? I think Wojta is taken at 16 at the latest.
ok and just noticed no Shegog either...oopsie
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What drunk runs this site?
Nneka as a SF.
Shenise as a F.
Bravard as a F.
Phoenix taking Barrett.
CT taking Rushdan.
Minny taking James at 12.
Bravard over Kizer.
Raterman, Warley, Jenkins, Gayle as a WNBA 2nd Rd prospects.
Reid isn't even in the draft (staying at Lville for 5th yr).
And who the hell are half the names taking up picks 18-36?
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Still can't see SASS taking Sami and not sure where the love comes from for Barrett? Can someone tell me why Barrett would be taken this high? And in a three round draft, they still don't have Wojta somewhere? I think Wojta is taken at 16 at the latest.
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I agree, there are a lot of things wrong in this update. I personally believe Barrett will not be in the first top 10 picks, Tiffany Hayes will not fall to number 13, & SASS doesn't need Prahalis, most likely will be headed to Phoenix.
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What drunk runs this site?
Nneka as a SF.
Shenise as a F.
Bravard as a F.
Phoenix taking Barrett.
CT taking Rushdan.
Minny taking James at 12.
Bravard over Kizer.
Raterman, Warley, Jenkins, Gayle as a WNBA 2nd Rd prospects.
Reid isn't even in the draft (staying at Lville for 5th yr).
And who the hell are half the names taking up picks 18-36?
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I don't know, but if #19 goes according to that draft, I'm going to end up strangling Whiz.
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| I'd love that draft. It'd be a major success for LA. Nneka AND Tiffany Hayes (2nd rounder)? Sign me up!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Don't see Hampton falling into the third round either, unless she's not recovering from her injury.
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I don't know, but if #19 goes according to that draft, I'm going to end up strangling Whiz. |
Are you going to stangle him for giving up too many second round picks for this year's draft, or are you going to strangle him because he doesn't take Stevens at #7?
Actually, in the unlikelihood that the Lynx do pick Stevens, it might be a good thing for you because they'd most likey be looking to trade Stevens, and the Lynx were good trading partners with the Libs last year. |
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I don't know, but if #19 goes according to that draft, I'm going to end up strangling Whiz. |
Are you going to stangle him for giving up too many second round picks for this year's draft, or are you going to strangle him because he doesn't take Stevens at #7?
Actually, in the unlikelihood that the Lynx do pick Stevens, it might be a good thing for you because they'd most likey be looking to trade Stevens, and the Lynx were good trading partners with the Libs last year. |
I guess they never heard of Julie Wojta, either, who I think could be SASS pick at #5.
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| irrelevant argument - neither are or will be better than #10 on any roster.
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| http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118311-mock-2012-wnba-draft |
Not too familiar with her, what are Riquna Williams "Character Issues"?
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I don't know, but if #19 goes according to that draft, I'm going to end up strangling Whiz. |
Are you going to stangle him for giving up too many second round picks for this year's draft, or are you going to strangle him because he doesn't take Stevens at #7?
Actually, in the unlikelihood that the Lynx do pick Stevens, it might be a good thing for you because they'd most likey be looking to trade Stevens, and the Lynx were good trading partners with the Libs last year. |
I was indulging in a bit of Our Girls Syndrome, but I do admit that if Day gets drafted by another team by a pick that was originally ours, I will be a bit pissy.
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Not too familiar with her, what are Riquna Williams "Character Issues"? |
I assume they are referring to her being suspended for the NCAA tournament for "violating team rules".
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| whitney hand is mentioned as a sure fire 2nd rounder, but she still has another year of eligibility. has anyone heard that she will forego it or will she stay at ou for one more year? especially with the number of folks who are said to be leaving the program, would she stay out of loyalty to sheri?
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| irrelevant argument - neither are or will be better than #10 on any roster. |
Your opinion, which you are entitled to. I beg to differ.
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| Posted: 04/04/12 9:59 pm ::: |
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| http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118311-mock-2012-wnba-draft |
I should've stopped after the first two sentences made no grammatical sense, but I got as far as Tyra White being called a point guard. Yeesh. |
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Since I think the Liberty will be looking for a PF who are the top 5 PFs in this draft? Ogwumike, G. Johnson and Peters seem to be the top three but who else would make the list?
While you're at it feel free to do top 5 at every position. If you don't want to do traditional positions (PG, SG, SF, PF, C) switch it up and try lead guard, combo guard, wing and post. Thanks in advance, I have my opinions, but there are a lot of players I'm not that familiar with and I'm curious to see what other think.
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Hurt wasn't even Player of the Year in her conference. |
When EDD is in your conference your chances of being POY are slim. Hurt was still top ten in scoring and the #1 rebounder in the nation.
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Hurt wasn't even Player of the Year in her conference. |
When EDD is in your conference your chances of being POY are slim. Hurt was still top ten in scoring and the #1 rebounder in the nation. |
Leading the country in rebounding is about as poor an indicator of WNBA success as you might find. You don't see Judie Lomax or Lachelle Lyles anywhere. At 6'0 Hurt isn't going to be a rebounding threat at the next level.
Wojta's better shooting range, court vision, ball handling, and athleticism make her a stronger prospect than Hurt. Whatever the mock drafts say, I predict Wojta will be drafted ahead of Hurt.
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Hurt wasn't even Player of the Year in her conference. |
When EDD is in your conference your chances of being POY are slim. Hurt was still top ten in scoring and the #1 rebounder in the nation. |
Leading the country in rebounding is about as poor an indicator of WNBA success as you might find. You don't see Judie Lomax or Lachelle Lyles anywhere. At 6'0 Hurt isn't going to be a rebounding threat at the next level.
Wojta's better shooting range, court vision, ball handling, and athleticism make her a stronger prospect than Hurt. Whatever the mock drafts say, I predict Wojta will be drafted ahead of Hurt. |
I never said Hurt would be successful at the next level, just pointing out she's top ten in scoring and rebounding which is why she's getting recognition.
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Hurt wasn't even Player of the Year in her conference. |
When EDD is in your conference your chances of being POY are slim. Hurt was still top ten in scoring and the #1 rebounder in the nation. |
Leading the country in rebounding is about as poor an indicator of WNBA success as you might find. You don't see Judie Lomax or Lachelle Lyles anywhere. At 6'0 Hurt isn't going to be a rebounding threat at the next level.
Wojta's better shooting range, court vision, ball handling, and athleticism make her a stronger prospect than Hurt. Whatever the mock drafts say, I predict Wojta will be drafted ahead of Hurt. |
I never said Hurt would be successful at the next level, just pointing out she's top ten in scoring and rebounding which is why she's getting recognition. |
Yeah, most of the mock drafts are being done by people going predominantly by numbers.
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| http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118311-mock-2012-wnba-draft |
Here it is summarized:
1. Nnemkadi Ogwumike (Stanford)
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Point guard is actually the bigger need than adding another forward.
There is not, however, a point guard in this draft class worth taking with the top pick.
The Sparks are better off waiting until the second round where some worthy point guards like Tyra White, Jericka Jenkins and Tavelyn James will be available. Character issues surrounding University of Miami point guard Riquna Williams may drop her to the second round as well.
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2. Kayla Standish (Gonzaga)
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3. Shenise Johnson (Miami)
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The Minnesota Lynx currently do not have a back-up point guard for Lindsay Whalen.
Although more of a shooting guard, Shenise Johnson is a player the Lynx absolutely cannot pass on. They would regret it.
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4. Devereaux Peters (Notre Dame)
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Kloppenburg, like new Sparks coach Carol Ross, is defensive minded.
Ideally he would probably love for Nnemkadi Ogwumike to be a member of the Tulsa Shock. Since that will not happen, Devereaux Peters is the pick. Peters is known for being one of the best defensive players in Women's College Basketball.
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5. Glory Johnson (Tennessee)
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6. Natalie Novosel (Notre Dame)
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Novosel is not a pure point guard; more of a combo guard.
A catch and shoot type of player, the 5-foot-11 Novosel fits the Mercury style of play. She is also one of the best (if not the best) passers in this year's draft class.
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7. Courtney Hurt (Virginia Commonwealth)
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So both Montgomery and Hollingsworth have likely been asked to help the Liberty scout their former teammates.
I think Hurt stands out more than Goodlett because of ability to both play multiple positions and take over games.
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9. Tiffany Hayes (UCONN)
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As a member of the Sun, Hayes would be reunited with her former UCONN teammates Tina Charles, Renee Montgomery and Kalana Greene.
Connecticut obviously has developed a habit of collecting Geno Auriemma's former players. They currently have five on the roster, four of whom are starters.
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10. Samantha Prahalis (Ohio State)
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11. Brittany Rayburn (Purdue)
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| While I do sense a trade brewing during the draft, Dunn should convince the front office to keep Brittany Rayburn and her offensive skill in Indiana by making her their first-round pick. |
12. Sasha Goodlett (Georgia Tech)
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| This situation fits Goodlett best because she would not be expected to contribute in a major way as a rookie. McWilliams-Franklin can essentially groom her as she is likely doing with current back-up Jessica Adair. |
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Pilight, do not tell everyone my secret about Wojta! I want everyone focused on players from the BCS schools. I know that Mavcarter is a Sky fan but she might not have seen her play as much as I have. The girl can BALL! I want the WNBA GMs to remain dumb so that Wojta can fall to the #23 pick.  |
I think I've already been exposing "your" secret here and here, among other places. |
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| Standish as the #2 pick: ROFL - someone thinks Agler is an idiot.
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| No WNBA prospect ever came out of the HORIZON LEAGUE. |
Why not? Wasn't Green Bay just as good last year? |
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| No WNBA prospect ever came out of the HORIZON LEAGUE. |
Why not? Wasn't Green Bay just as good last year? |
Yes!! And yet neither Sweet 16 Star (Sr. F Tetschlag - 27p/10r vs. Baylor or Sr. PG Hoewisch - 20p/6a/3s vs. Baylor) was drafted or named to an All-American team.
http://www.cstv.com/gametracker/launch/ncaa_wbaskbl.html?event=988825&school=ncaa&sport=wbaskbl
(vs. Baylor - Jr. F Wojta - 5p, 1-6FG, 1-2 3FG, 2-2FT, 3r, 4a, 3to, 1s, 0b, 5pf, 24m)
Now my question is what did Wojta do this year to earn so much All-American attention this season, when last season UWGB was better and had 2 really great seniors and niehter made any AA list?? Is it that they were finally seen last year against Baylor and recognized to be a good team or is she just better than those two from last year??? because niether was drafted anywhere in the 3 rounds and now a lot of people think she may end up in the 1st round (me included). |
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As someone who's done a WNBA Mock Draft for the last 3 seasons, I can say this one is by far the hardest to gage. Outside the #1 pick, it is a complete crapshoot starting with whoever Seattle selects. There is no clear-cut 2nd best prospect (S. Johnson is the closest to a consensus) and Agler said they wouldn't be filling holes thru the draft but rather thru FAs therefore the pick will be whoever Seattle deems the 2nd best overall. Then Minnesota will likely pick the 3rd best overall since they are solid at every back-up on the roster (although IMO they need to draft the best F/C available as a back-up, back-up in case Taj gets hurt or Harris continues to suck!!!). Tulsa needs EVERYTHING. San Antonio needs rebounding, but have such good offensive posts coupled with an aging backcourt that who the hell knows which direction their headed. Phoenix NEEDS a PG desperately, but all the PG prospects in this draft suck outside of Prahalis who may or may not turn out to be only decent in the WNBA. And then starting with NY, it goes back to teams who will just take the best available (and God only knows who Whiz and Lacey think the "best available" is). Then Thibault says the draft sucks so they may go foreign or trade the pick, but who and for what? They got burned the last time they drafted a Brazilian center (aka DeSouza). Next up is post-deprived Indy, who needs a great PF (which won't be close to available when the 11th pick comes around...unless they find a diamond in the rough and turn her into the steal of the draft) and lastly, Minny choses again, even though they won't have a roster spot available for the pick (so either the pick is cut, traded, or another player is cut/traded based on the pick). And that's just the 1st Rd!!!
After that is the LA/Minny selection show (aka the 2nd Rd) where the picks better hope they're injured and therefore can't be signed which means they can't get cut yet!!!!!!!!!!
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| No WNBA prospect ever came out of the HORIZON LEAGUE. |
Why not? Wasn't Green Bay just as good last year? |
Yes!! And yet neither Sweet 16 Star (Sr. F Tetschlag - 27p/10r vs. Baylor or Sr. PG Hoewisch - 20p/6a/3s vs. Baylor) was drafted or named to an All-American team.
http://www.cstv.com/gametracker/launch/ncaa_wbaskbl.html?event=988825&school=ncaa&sport=wbaskbl
(vs. Baylor - Jr. F Wojta - 5p, 1-6FG, 1-2 3FG, 2-2FT, 3r, 4a, 3to, 1s, 0b, 5pf, 24m)
Now my question is what did Wojta do this year to earn so much All-American attention this season, when last season UWGB was better and had 2 really great seniors and niehter made any AA list?? Is it that they were finally seen last year against Baylor and recognized to be a good team or is she just better than those two from last year??? because niether was drafted anywhere in the 3 rounds and now a lot of people think she may end up in the 1st round (me included). |
She kept the team at the top of the league, and high in the polls, despite them losing two key seniors. She upped her scoring while improving her shooting %. She had the second most steals in the country.
Wojta was the best player on the team last year, but she subordinated her game to the seniors.
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| I've only seen Wojta play once, admittedly it was their NCAA loss, but I wonder what position she'll play in the WNBA. She lacks size to play the 4 and didn't seem quick enough to play the 3.
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Wojta is just a funny name to most people. She plays in the Horizon League. No WNBA prospect ever came out of the 