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PostPosted: 03/26/12 12:02 pm    ::: Lisa Leslie on....what else, Lisa Leslie! Reply Reply with quote

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What else is new Laughing In 40-50 years when she is in a home for the elderly she will have an extra room reserved for her 4 medals and her other prizes



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 10:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

interesting how many of the same people that dump on leslie for being proud of herself and her accomplishments.... give hammon a by for her self serving in turning her back on her country and playing for it's supposed enemy... Laughing



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 11:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I love to harrass LLL. She's such a good target. She makes herself a really good target, from her singing on the gold medal stand decked out in all her bling, to her book which exposed a disturbing tendency towards martyrdom and a victim mentality.

But part of being a good target is that she's not a pathetic one. I really appreciate the things she's done for women's basketball. I miss her presence on court in the WNBA. She really took her contribution seriously, and she worked hard for it. Nothing wrong with that. Go, Lisa! Cool



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 11:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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interesting how many of the same people that dump on leslie for being proud of herself and her accomplishments.... give hammon a by for her self serving in turning her back on her country and playing for it's supposed enemy... Laughing


Not even in the same ballpark!

1) Hammon was never going to play for Team USA, so she hardly betrayed the US by straying
2) I would consider it the highlight of my life to participate in the Olympics. I certainly cannot fault someone else for pursuing that dream
3) There is a big difference between being proud of oneself and ones accomplishments and being a self-centered self-promoter. The knock against Leslie is for a number of similarly framed comments and articles.
4) The US's enemy, the Soviet Union, no longer exists. We are not enemies with Russia.


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PostPosted: 03/28/12 1:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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interesting how many of the same people that dump on leslie for being proud of herself and her accomplishments.... give hammon a by for her self serving in turning her back on her country and playing for it's supposed enemy... Laughing


Not even in the same ballpark!

1) Hammon was never going to play for Team USA, so she hardly betrayed the US by straying
2) I would consider it the highlight of my life to participate in the Olympics. I certainly cannot fault someone else for pursuing that dream
3) There is a big difference between being proud of oneself and ones accomplishments and being a self-centered self-promoter. The knock against Leslie is for a number of similarly framed comments and articles.
4) The US's enemy, the Soviet Union, no longer exists. We are not enemies with Russia.


not in the same ballpark as far as YOU are concerned... rationalization is strange thing... and if you think that america and russia are no longer enemies.... that's just naive.... and self serving is self serving.... it doesn't change simply because you like one person and don't like the other ....

in anycase... i didn't make the post to try to change anyone's mind.... people are always going to come up with rationalizations for what they want to believe....



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 2:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Didnt Tweety do the same thing but i never hear you mention her its always Hammon. I wonder what could be the difference Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 3:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jaye wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
jaye wrote:
interesting how many of the same people that dump on leslie for being proud of herself and her accomplishments.... give hammon a by for her self serving in turning her back on her country and playing for it's supposed enemy... Laughing


Not even in the same ballpark!

1) Hammon was never going to play for Team USA, so she hardly betrayed the US by straying
2) I would consider it the highlight of my life to participate in the Olympics. I certainly cannot fault someone else for pursuing that dream
3) There is a big difference between being proud of oneself and ones accomplishments and being a self-centered self-promoter. The knock against Leslie is for a number of similarly framed comments and articles.
4) The US's enemy, the Soviet Union, no longer exists. We are not enemies with Russia.


not in the same ballpark as far as YOU are concerned... rationalization is strange thing... and if you think that america and russia are no longer enemies.... that's just naive.... and self serving is self serving.... it doesn't change simply because you like one person and don't like the other ....

in anycase... i didn't make the post to try to change anyone's mind.... people are always going to come up with rationalizations for what they want to believe....


And people are going to continue to keep hatred in their hearts no matter what. If you look hard enough at any situation, you will be able to twist it into whatever you want it to be. I have looked all the way deep into my heart and the points I made are what I believe. Your posts are that of a 60+ year old man who long ago made up his mind about what the world is and refuses to look around to see that it has changed. For every terrible incident like Trayvon Martin there are 10 times as many examples that the current generations have put the past behind them. I will always respect Lisa Leslie as one of the finest basketball players in the WNBA.


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PostPosted: 03/28/12 3:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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1) Hammon was never going to play for Team USA, so she hardly betrayed the US by straying


Wasn't she invited to be a part of the training camp and she turned USA basketball down?



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 3:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GEF34 wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:

1) Hammon was never going to play for Team USA, so she hardly betrayed the US by straying


Wasn't she invited to be a part of the training camp and she turned USA basketball down?


Could have been. What I heard was that she was not expected to make the team though.


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Didnt Tweety do the same thing but i never hear you mention her its always Hammon. I wonder what could be the difference Rolling Eyes


Did she? Shocked

I thought was only Becky Hammon who did. Although you would probably know more than I do, I follow the World Championships and Olympics, but don't really follow the other tournaments, like Olympic or World Championship qualifiers.



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 3:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GEF34 wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
Didnt Tweety do the same thing but i never hear you mention her its always Hammon. I wonder what could be the difference Rolling Eyes


Did she? Shocked

I thought was only Becky Hammon who did. Although you would probably know more than I do, I follow the World Championships and Olympics, but don't really follow the other tournaments, like Olympic or World Championship qualifiers.


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PostPosted: 03/28/12 4:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Michelle89 wrote:
GEF34 wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
Didnt Tweety do the same thing but i never hear you mention her its always Hammon. I wonder what could be the difference Rolling Eyes


Did she? Shocked

I thought was only Becky Hammon who did. Although you would probably know more than I do, I follow the World Championships and Olympics, but don't really follow the other tournaments, like Olympic or World Championship qualifiers.


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Background: When compared to Prince and Miller, Nolan looks like an innocent lamb. She didn’t get involved in any controversies, didn’t tear up the passport she received in 2007, and did not refuse to play for the national team. However, she was only invited there on several occasions and only to the training camps.


Interesting, I wonder why she was never chosen for the team.



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 4:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Nerd2 wrote:
jaye wrote:
Nerd2 wrote:
jaye wrote:
interesting how many of the same people that dump on leslie for being proud of herself and her accomplishments.... give hammon a by for her self serving in turning her back on her country and playing for it's supposed enemy... Laughing


Not even in the same ballpark!

1) Hammon was never going to play for Team USA, so she hardly betrayed the US by straying
2) I would consider it the highlight of my life to participate in the Olympics. I certainly cannot fault someone else for pursuing that dream
3) There is a big difference between being proud of oneself and ones accomplishments and being a self-centered self-promoter. The knock against Leslie is for a number of similarly framed comments and articles.
4) The US's enemy, the Soviet Union, no longer exists. We are not enemies with Russia.


not in the same ballpark as far as YOU are concerned... rationalization is strange thing... and if you think that america and russia are no longer enemies.... that's just naive.... and self serving is self serving.... it doesn't change simply because you like one person and don't like the other ....

in anycase... i didn't make the post to try to change anyone's mind.... people are always going to come up with rationalizations for what they want to believe....


And people are going to continue to keep hatred in their hearts no matter what. If you look hard enough at any situation, you will be able to twist it into whatever you want it to be. I have looked all the way deep into my heart and the points I made are what I believe. Your posts are that of a 60+ year old man who long ago made up his mind about what the world is and refuses to look around to see that it has changed. For every terrible incident like Trayvon Martin there are 10 times as many examples that the current generations have put the past behind them. I will always respect Lisa Leslie as one of the finest basketball players in the WNBA.


my posts are of a 60 year old man that see's the world for what it is.... everyone has biases that they refuse to admit to themselves... myself included.... and they color their opinions accordingly.... if you honestly think that current generations have put the past behind them... well... i leave you with that fantasy...

but on a closing note... do you think maybe it's just that from where you sit... you never happen to see anything but your rosy view??... and that maybe from where i sit... the view might not be the same??.... just maybe?? and if a man is kicking me and spitting on me... and after a time he stops kicking me... but is still spitting on me... am i supposed to say thank you??

but i will agree with you that lisa is one of the greatest to ever play the game... but the vitriol thrown her way is petty and catty....



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 4:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Leslie has risen almost to the point of self-parody. She practically writes the ego jokes all by herself (because who else would she trust to do it? Wink )

Hammon... well. I'd have to banhammer myself if I said what I really felt about her.



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PostPosted: 03/28/12 4:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Go Becky! Idea



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Michelle89 wrote:
Didnt Tweety do the same thing but i never hear you mention her its always Hammon. I wonder what could be the difference Rolling Eyes


always hammon?? Laughing it's hardly one of my obsessions.... and your not so subtle little attempt to call me a racist is duly noted.... but for the record... it's not racism that motivates me here... it's my dislike of bandwagons and hype... and fan-atics.... if tweety had the same fanatical fanbase that went to any lengths to justify anything she did... i'd dislike that also....



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Frankly, I am tired of these articles/pieces on "The Leslian Lifestyle" being shoved down our throats. I have nothing against Leslie or the Leslians. What they do behind closed doors is their business. But I object to having "The Leslian Lifestyle" thrown in my face. Per my religious beliefs, i do not have to accept it or tolerate it.


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Frankly, I am tired of these articles/pieces on "The Leslian Lifestyle" being shoved down our throats. I have nothing against Leslie or the Leslians. What they do behind closed doors is their business. But I object to having "The Leslian Lifestyle" thrown in my face. Per my religious beliefs, i do not have to accept it or tolerate it.


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PostPosted: 03/28/12 5:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jaye wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
Didnt Tweety do the same thing but i never hear you mention her its always Hammon. I wonder what could be the difference Rolling Eyes


always hammon?? Laughing it's hardly one of my obsessions.... and your not so subtle little attempt to call me a racist is duly noted.... but for the record... it's not racism that motivates me here... it's my dislike of bandwagons and hype... and fan-atics.... if tweety had the same fanatical fanbase that went to any lengths to justify anything she did... i'd dislike that also....
If Tweety deigned to play in the W you'd hear a lot more from her fans, though I have to admit that few players have inspired the level of devotion that Becky has in the Hammonites. Certainly the Hammonites seem more devoted than The Leslians, though the latter apparently get more press. Wink



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jaye wrote:
Michelle89 wrote:
Didnt Tweety do the same thing but i never hear you mention her its always Hammon. I wonder what could be the difference Rolling Eyes


always hammon?? Laughing it's hardly one of my obsessions.... and your not so subtle little attempt to call me a racist is duly noted.... but for the record... it's not racism that motivates me here... it's my dislike of bandwagons and hype... and fan-atics.... if tweety had the same fanatical fanbase that went to any lengths to justify anything she did... i'd dislike that also....
If Tweety deigned to play in the W you'd hear a lot more from her fans, though I have to admit that few players have inspired the level of devotion that Becky has in the Hammonites. Certainly the Hammonites seem more devoted than The Leslians, though the latter apparently get more press. Wink


True. Im hardly a Hammon fan but even i get a bit sick of the Hammon/traitor issue being brought up in convo's about other players/subjects while other USA players have went the same path as she did (Tweety, Prince etc.) but they are never mentioned Confused

If its about the USA-Russia ''traitor'' thing then i would expect other players to be mentioned as well but if its about Hammon's fanbase who defend her for everything then just say that and dont make it about something else..

Didnt mean to disrespect you Jaye soz



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no problem michelle.... i know i can be a load.... Laughing



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Leslie has risen almost to the point of self-parody. She practically writes the ego jokes all by herself (because who else would she trust to do it? Wink )


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CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
Frankly, I am tired of these articles/pieces on "The Leslian Lifestyle" being shoved down our throats. I have nothing against Leslie or the Leslians. What they do behind closed doors is their business. But I object to having "The Leslian Lifestyle" thrown in my face. Per my religious beliefs, i do not have to accept it or tolerate it.


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So what the heck am I missing?

Did anyone actually READ the article?

It was a nice piece about playing in the 96 Olympics and being a part of that team.

Where's the self-promotion? The world according to Lisa lesbian bashing?

What am I missing?

This all seems really silly to me, including the subject line of the thread.



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PostPosted: 03/29/12 1:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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So what the heck am I missing?

Did anyone actually READ the article?

It was a nice piece about playing in the 96 Olympics and being a part of that team.

Where's the self-promotion? The world according to Lisa lesbian bashing?

What am I missing?

This all seems really silly to me, including the subject line of the thread.

I think you're just missing where this thread is something of a joke, or tongue in cheek, despite some of the tiffs that have occurred. For instance, I agree that it's interesting to read perspectives like this article. I really enjoy the personal story type articles. Heaven knows we always get them as Storm fans from LJ's, Sue's, Swin's, and Ashley's perspectives among others. I guess they just haven't made parodies of themselves yet, to the point that they make an amusing target...



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Sorry, I guess I just didn't see anything amusing about the things being said in this thread.

Sense of humor on this must have run dry.



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I enjoy Lisa Leslie since she stopped playing. Kind of along the lines of Charles Barkley... but with a ways to go before reaching his level of "WTF did he just say!?"

I think she should continue to be outspoken whenever the mood takes her because WBB needs some of that.



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Leslie was an outstanding player and the Sparks had some great teams. Fans of other teams chose her to beat up on for no particular reason other than the fact that she was so good and outplayed there post players. As for Hammon she was the only one of the three (Hammon ,Nolan, and Miller) that the Russian coach wanted for a point guard. She was not on the final list of 23 US candidates and figured she had no chance with the US team. She was offered a belated tryout and I guess figured that was a waste of time. I remember Nancy Lieberman referred to that 23 player list as that "Stinking List" because Hammon was not on it. I think Nolan and Miller both said they would accept a Russian invitation at that time. Hammon consistently outplayed Bird when SASS played the Storm but since the Storm coach, Ann Donovan, was also the the US team coach it was no surprise that she wanted Bird as her point guard. I think if there had been a different coach Hammon would have made the US team.


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Angus24 wrote:
Leslie was an outstanding player and the Sparks had some great teams. Fans of other teams chose her to beat up on for no particular reason other than the fact that she was so good and outplayed there post players..


No, it is because she couldn't bring class when she spoke even if someone out it in a bucket for her.


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